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4 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Question is how much will they budget for the second half of the film. Could be considerably less then for the first film if it's a borderline case.

 

No. You can't do a movie like that by cutting the budget considerably. It will either never get made or for a budget in the same ballpark.

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2 minutes ago, Elessar said:

 

No. You can't do a movie like that by cutting the budget considerably. It will either never get made or for a budget in the same ballpark.

Uh, the did not happen with the "Pacific Rim" sequel. They grenlighted a sequel, but at a much lower budget.

Of couse you can do the second half for a lower budget then the first half. But you won't get the same quality or scope.But that is secondary to the main reason for making the second half;The studio thinks it could eke out a profit on it.

You don't get a studio does not exist to make movies, it exists to make profits for the shareholders. Movies are just the means to the ends.

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11 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Uh, the did not happen with the "Pacific Rim" sequel. They grenlighted a sequel, but at a much lower budget.

You don't get a studio does not exist to make movies, it exists to make profits for the shareholders. Movies are just the means to the ends.

And it flopped. The lower budget made it look way worse and even those who liked the original (including me, one of my favorite action movies) could tell what a downgrade it was from the trailer. 

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There's no reason to expect that the second movie would do worse numbers than the first. Presumably there won't be a global pandemic, day and date streaming, a staggered international release, and the several decades worth of utterly failed adaptations hanging over its head.

 

I think it's pretty absurd to think the second won't get made at this point. It's going to get made and it's going to have probably the same budget as the first.

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10 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Uh, the did not happen with the "Pacific Rim" sequel. They grenlighted a sequel, but at a much lower budget.

You don't get a studio does not exist to make movies, it exists to make profits for the shareholders. Movies are just the means to the ends.

 

By taking it from the original creators and putting it in the hands of some b-tiers, different cast and everything. Not that the original was some masterpiece. This will not happen to Dune.

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47 minutes ago, Ledmonkey96 said:

New Mutants made about half as much as Tenet, nothing comparative for WW84 but that didn't make much anway, and then Raya outgrossed Tom & Jerry, then Godzilla came out.

I said Disney did nothing to support cinemas during the worst of the pandemic. 
 

ie: they didn’t release anything for cinemas to play between New Mutants and Raya. 

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Friday Midday Update: Currently, Legendary/Warner Bros.’ Dune is seeing a Friday between $16M-$17M, including last night’s previews, which means an opening between $30M-$32M. While rival studios have it much higher, understand that the unpredictable nature of the gross is deciphering how frontloaded its Friday is; as well as the HBO Max availability of it all. Imax ticket sales are leading the charge for Dune, looking at a 22%-24% share of the weekend B.O. Anything above Godzilla vs. Kong‘s $31.6M opening weekend means it’s a record domestic debut for a Warner Bros. movie during the pandemic, and the top start for a day-and-date theatrical HBO Max release. Anything north of $32.8M means it’s a record opening for director Denis Villeneuve.

 

Solid PostTrak for Dune so far with 4 stars out of 5. Males, natch, are out in force at 62% and 72% over 25. Diversity demos are 59% Caucasian, 20% Latino and Hispanic, 6% African American, 9% Asian and 6% other.

 

https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-weekend-box-office-1234860683/

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Arthur P. Jacobs died before he could start filming Dune.

Alejandro Jodorowsky tried to make a 10-14 hour acid fever dream and failed, but it did indirectly give us Alien

Ridley Scott tried to make a Dune film but after his brother died it was too much and he made Blade Runner instead

David Lynch made one of the worst movies ever made with his adaptation

Wes Berg tried to make a Dune film and failed

Pierre Morell tried to make a Dune film and failed

 

And these are just the ones that got far enough along in the process for us to hear about them. Who knows how many other attempts were discarded. Those are some pretty accomplished producers and directors and Dune whooped all of their asses.

 

What Villeneuve achieved creatively is something to be marveled at. That he did what he did and seemingly did well enough to get the sequel made is nothing short of astounding.

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22 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Question is how much will they budget for the second half of the film. Could be considerably less then for the first film if it's a borderline case.

The same thing or more.

 

Everyone knows the sequel will grow a lot not only because people liked the first but it will be theatrical exclusive and hopefully in a normal market.

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7 minutes ago, Elessar said:

 

By taking it from the original creators and putting it in the hands of some b-tiers, different cast and everything. Not that the original was some masterpiece. This will not happen to Dune.

Iirc it wasn't taken from Del Toro, it was just greenlit pretty late and he had moved on to other stuff. If they had been timely about it, probably could have gotten him back. I really wish they had. His absence was really obvious from the start. 

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2 minutes ago, Derpity said:

Friday Midday Update: Currently, Legendary/Warner Bros.’ Dune is seeing a Friday between $16M-$17M, including last night’s previews, which means an opening between $30M-$32M. While rival studios have it much higher, understand that the unpredictable nature of the gross is deciphering how frontloaded its Friday is; as well as the HBO Max availability of it all. Imax ticket sales are leading the charge for Dune, looking at a 22%-24% share of the weekend B.O. Anything above Godzilla vs. Kong‘s $31.6M opening weekend means it’s a record domestic debut for a Warner Bros. movie during the pandemic, and the top start for a day-and-date theatrical HBO Max release. Anything north of $32.8M means it’s a record opening for director Denis Villeneuve.

 

Solid PostTrak for Dune so far with 4 stars out of 5. Males, natch, are out in force at 62% and 72% over 25. Diversity demos are 59% Caucasian, 20% Latino and Hispanic, 6% African American, 9% Asian and 6% other.

 

https://deadline.com/2021/10/dune-weekend-box-office-1234860683/

 

Yeah, that seems about right if walkups match my thinking...for once, I'm on the Deadline wavelength...that almost never happens...

 

It will be funny if it still doesn't go over WB's top open of the year - THAT would probably be a board disappointment (if not unexpected by some of us)...

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Just now, ThomasNicole said:

11-12M true FRI would be great, but since it's early i think Deadline could be lowballing a bit.

 

Anyway, even with 11M should get 37-38M

 

Not always on the day and date films - especially for those with fan rush...

$5, $11, $10, $6 is possible...

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WB's simultaneous HBO Max release strategy helped cinemas during the height of the pandemic in the first half of this year. Ultimately though for the 2nd half of this year cinemas needed theatrical only releases to prove it was viable and that's where Disney does deserve credit with Shang-Chi pretty much convincing other studios not to abandon 2021 with their theatrical only releases.

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