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THANKSGIVING WEEKEND THREAD | Encanto v Gucci v Resi Evil | Sales available on the first page | We're all gonna die of sadness not COVID

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To start things off, Happy Thanksgiving to all of our amazing and beautiful American posters. For those not in the States, this is a special time of the year where us Yankees get together with family members we both love and hate, watch a silly parade that also serves as a glorified commercial for NBC programs and other products, indulge in a bountiful, stressful to make feast that takes hours to cook, watch some random football games despite the NFL being corrupt AF, debate politics with our racist aunt/uncle, prepare ourselves for the epic sales hitting Wal-Mart tomorrow, and drink ourselves to death in order to numb ourselves from the stress we’ll soon endure as the Christmas season officially starts.


Oh yeah, we also go to the movies too. And this Thanksgiving promises to be a very special one. Considering the holiday is all about family, we have two new releases all about two very different, yet very powerful families...and also that Resident Evil reboot nobody cares about.


Disney has their usual animated release this long weekend with the very anticipated Encanto. Promising gorgeous visuals, a heartfelt story, a sincere appreciation towards Colombian culture, and a dynamite soundtrack from Lin-Manuel Miranda, aka America’s Sweetheart, Encanto will certainly be a hit. Even if it underperforms in the theaters, the almighty Disney+ service will ensure this will have an audience. Never forget that streaming is the future.


For adults uninterested in animated fare, we also have House of Gucci, Ridley Scott’s other big movie this year. With an all-star cast, incredible make-up, and a splashy trailer that was an online hit, people are expecting good things for this movie too, with a potential Oscar nomination for Lady Gaga, aka America’s Other Sweetheart. And again, even if it isn’t a hit in theaters, future dictator Jeff Bezos will make it so when his new film from his new studio launches on Amazon Prime Video. Again, don’t forget that streaming is the future.


Ultimately, however, this holiday is a very crucial one. Both of these films are a major litmus test for this December, plus 2022 and beyond. While horror, superheroes, and other films that target the 18-34 sweet spot have held the fort down in this current rebuilding of the box office, other genres and films that target other audiences haven’t had the same luck. Animated titles and other kids films have done lukewarm business, while adult-oriented titles, at least ones that aren’t based on established franchises, are bombing left and right. This is proven by the unfortunate box office for the Disney title Raya and the Last Dragon, though it has been saved by Disney+, as well as the sad bombage of The Last Duel. Damn you millennials and your cell phones!


Both Encanto and Gucci have considerable hype behind them, thanks to their musical star connections and strong reviews, but things are still uncertain and a lot is riding on them. If these films perform well, it’s a good sign for Sing 2 and West Side Story next month, as well as many other films in 2022. If they underperform or even tank, we’ll probably see shortened windows or day-and-date releases for these kinds of films, or these films just not getting greenlit for a theatrical release. It may seem a bit nerve-wracking, but at the end of the day, it's important to recognize with a holiday like this to have fun and just enjoy being with the people you love above all else.


Alongside Encanto, Gucci, and Resi Evil, this is an incredible weekend for entertainment. We have Licorice Pizza in limited release, C'mon C'mon expanding, and holdovers like Ghostbusters: Afterlife, Belfast, Clifford, King Richard, Spencer, and Eternals. There’s also Hawkeye and the new Beatles docuseries on Disney+, Wheel of Time on Amazon, and the usual endless supply of Netflix content, including Tiger King 2, Bruised, Tick Tick Boom, Cowboy Bebop, and Red Notice, to name just a few. Oh, and also Planes, Trains, and Automobiles, which I’m sure is streaming or airing on cable TV somewhere. And maybe also enjoy some Martin Scorsese movies? What I'm saying is this is an absolutely stacked weekend for entertainment, so there’s no reason to not watch at least one thing over the long holiday weekend. Preferably on the big screen of course, if possible.


But, like with any family Thanksgiving gathering, you BOT posters need to respect your elders and follow the rules. This includes...


1. ABSOLUTELY NO SPOILERS. NOT EVEN SPOILERS POSTED UNDER SPOILER TAGS. This rule is applied to all weekend threads, but it's especially true for this weekend. Disney fans, Little Monsters, and gamers are all super excited for each of these three movies, and it’s really not cool to just put something out in the open that wasn't revealed in the marketing and ruin the moment for somebody. And yes, the pandemic is still a bitch and a half, so it’ll be a while until some folks watch these new movies.


This also applies to other movies in theaters and films/shows recently releasing on streaming. So no Ghostbusters: Afterlife spoilers, no King Richard spoilers, no Clifford spoilers, no Wheel of Time spoilers, no Hawkeye spoilers, etc. You are free to give general opinions, but try to avoid going into any further detail. If you do spoil something here, you will be banned. No exceptions. Don't be a dick.


2. KEEP YOUR AGENDA OUT OF HERE. We get it. Movie theaters are dead forever. Streaming is a disease. Woke critics don't understand real movies. Marvel is the greatest film series ever created. Disney/Marvel is destroying cinema and Kevin Feige/Bob Chapek/Kathleen Kennedy is the spawn of Satan. James Cameron is the true king of the box office. Yadda yadda yadda.


There's a time and place for these kinds of statements...actually, there isn't. But at the very least, it doesn't belong here. If you want to start these beefs related to all of these dumb children's movies, go somewhere else. If you do this kind of stuff here, you will see repercussions. No exceptions. Not gonna name names, but you know who you are. Don't be a dick. 


3. THE REPORT AND IGNORE BUTTONS ARE YOUR FRIENDS. See a post that’s breaking the rules? DO NOT RESPOND TO IT. Just hit the Report button, give an explanation to the problem, including the context, then hit "Submit". We the mods will determine the post and see if it's breaking the rules and give out repercussions. See a poster that's consistently annoying? Then just highlight their name and click "Ignore User" on the pop-up. It'll save lives and hopefully cause less of an uproar or infighting. While trolls are already bad, responding to them only makes it worse. So again...Don't be a dick.


4. IS OFF-TOPIC DISCUSSION OKAY? Well...yes and no. We want people to stick to box office numbers as best as they can. However, there are plenty of dead periods of time with no new numbers. So off-topic discussions are okay to have at these times, so long as they don't impede numbers discussion. So if there's no action, and you want to share your grandma’s secret mashed potato recipe, argue about whether turkeys deserve to have rights or not, or rank your favorite Peanuts specials, that's totally fine. Just remember that when the numbers come up to keep those discussions down to a minimum. Keep on doing that, and it becomes a chore for many who just want to know the numbers. Don't. Be. A. Dick.


And lastly... 


5. DON'T BE A DICK. Sometimes things get hostile among users. Whatever the reason may be, if you're not following any of these rules or are straight up not being nice, you're going to get the banhammer smashed onto you. Concern trolling? Banned. Revealing that Lady Gaga kills Dumbledore? Banned. Just posting something unpleasant or mean? Banned. And if you're unsure if you can handle being nice for one weekend, then, simply put, get out of here. You probably know what I'm gonna say next.


TL;DR. No spoilers, no fanboy wars. Keep it nice, keep it neutral, don't attack others, and you'll be fine. If you don't do this stuff, you'll risk a threadban, a suspension, or even a permanent ban, so tread lightly. Outside of that, just have fun! 


And three last things,


First off, this thread will likely lean into being more domestic-focused. If you want to know about how Encanto or Gucci or Resi Evil are doing in other countries, look at the International section of the forums here.




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Disney will continue to embrace the theatrical window over the Thanksgiving stretch with the Jared Bush-Byron Howard-Charise Castro Smith directed Colombian-set animated musical Encanto which is looking to hook families with a $35M-$40M five day domestic start and another $35M+ overseas as the movie debuts day-and-date in all offshore territories except China, Australia, New Zealand, Philippines and Vietnam. Here in the U.S., Encanto showtimes begin tonight at 6PM.

While some studios have been concerned about the turnout of families with major movies during the pandemic, and have opted for a hybrid launch in homes simultaneously, Sony’s Ghostbusters: Afterlife began easing those fears last weekend with a $44M start, a third of that business from families. The Jason Reitman-sequel in its second weekend looks to do an estimated $30M-$35M over five days, armed with the power of Imax auditoriums. Afterlife made $4M on Monday and now stands at $48M.


United Artist Releasing hopes to truly dynamite adults out of their houses with Ridley Scott’s all-star MGM drama thriller House of Gucci which is booked at 3,477 theaters, eyeing a mid-to-high teen opening over five days. Previews in the U.S./Canada start tonight at 7PM. The film is currently 65% fresh on Rotten Tomatoes, but has earned fresh reviews from Associated Press, The Telegraph, The L.A. Times, Time, Variety, Entertainment Weekly and Deadline‘s own Pete Hammond. House of Gucci is opening in 45 overseas markets via Universal and MGM, with France opening tomorrow, Mexico and Brazil on Thursday, and the UK and Spain on Friday.


Sony-Screen Gems has the Constantin reboot of Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City which goes back to the roots of the Capcom shooter zombie videogame. The genre movie is booked at 2,800 theaters, with Sony looking toward an $8M-$10M five-day start. Rival studios believe it has a good chance to land in the teens, the Johannes Roberts-directed movie currently 38% on Rotten Tomatoes. Previews for the $25M production start at 3 PM today in 2,320 locations. With the departure of Milla Jovovich as lead zombie shooter Alice, Kaya Scodelario takes up the guns as Claire Redfield.


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I hope both Gucci and Encanto can do well this weekend as animated family films and adult skewing films have been two of the weaker products vs. pre pandemic. Will be a good sign for years end and 2022 if people are more willing to go out and watch these kinds of films. 

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My hopes and dreams:

Encanto 50M 5 days

House of Gucci 40M 5 days

Resident Evil 20M 5 days


The crushing reality of dead theaters and COVID:

Encanto 28M 5 days

House of Gucci 18M 5 days

Resident Evil 6M 5 days


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Film Distributor 3-Day Weekend Forecast 5-Day Weekend Forecast Projected Domestic Total through Sunday, November 28 Location Count 3-Day % Change from Last Wknd
Encanto Walt Disney Pictures $39,300,000 $56,400,000 $56,400,000 3,980 NEW
Ghostbusters: Afterlife Sony Pictures / Columbia $26,200,000 $37,900,000 $91,100,000 ~4,315 -40%
House of Gucci United Artists Releasing $17,400,000 $26,900,000 $26,900,000 3,441 NEW
Eternals Disney / Marvel Studios $8,000,000 $11,400,000 $150,300,000 3,165 -28%
Resident Evil: Welcome to Raccoon City Sony Pictures / Columbia $7,400,000 $11,500,000 $11,500,000 ~2,800 NEW
Clifford the Big Red Dog Paramount Pictures $6,500,000 $9,000,000 $45,100,000 3,292 -20%
King Richard Warner Bros. Pictures $4,100,000 $6,100,000 $12,800,000 3,302 -24%
Dune Warner Bros. Pictures $1,900,000 $2,700,000 $101,800,000 ~1,200 -40%
Venom: Let There Be Carnage Sony Pictures / Columbia $1,800,000 $2,600,000 $210,100,000 ~1,500 -38%
No Time to Die MGM / EON / United Artists Releasing $1,700,000 $2,400,000 $157,900,000 1,342 -39%
Belfast Focus Features $1,600,000 $2,100,000 $5,800,000 1,128 +70%


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If Gucci is the first adult film to really succeed...does that confirm Lady Gaga is a legitimate box office draw (even if its only in the right role)? It wouldn't be due to anyone else...

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I think the name Gucci by itself is also a draw. Anecdotally I know multiple fashionistas/luxury lovers who are planning a night out to watch the movie decked out in Gucci and none of them have watched any other dramas in theaters since the pandemic started. 

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