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Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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Gokira2012 Box Office Gold

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How much is Sony spending to release Dragonball in theaters (3,000) and only a 12 million OW,in the US, 2D anime is largely a small screen phenomena and has no future in American theaters 

 

 

I mean Demon Slayer , which is the biggest Anime theatrical hit of all time only got 50 million in the

us 

 

Sony would be better off giving Blur Studio 200 million and making a  3d CGI photo realistic DBZ movie

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el sid Box Office Gold

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Beast, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, August 18:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 65 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 42 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 5 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 13 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 41 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 50 (3 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 218.
Comps (all counted on the same day = Wednesday for Thursday): Crawl had 195 sold tickets in 7 theaters,

47 Meters Down Uncaged had 41 in 5 theaters,

Candyman had 371 sold tickets in 7 theaters

and The Forever Purge had 168 sold tickets, also in 7 theaters.

Beast, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, August 19:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 70 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 37 (8 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 7 (5 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 4 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 11 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 30 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 43 (6 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 202.
Comps (all counted on the same day = Wednesday for Friday): Crawl had 170 sold tickets in 7 theaters,

47 Meters Down: Uncaged had 47 sold tickets in 5 theaters,

Candyman had 447 in 7 theaters
and Old had 262 sold tickets, also in 7 theaters.

So the Thursday jump was only so-so but the Friday jump was good (42% since yesterday). I still see 10M+.
 

Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, August 18:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 259 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 241 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 94 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 25 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 91 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 122 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 446 (7 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.278.

Comp: TSS had on Wednesday for Thursday 1.656 sold tickets (with HBO Max but probably more walk-ups).

DBS: SH, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, August 19:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 248 (12 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 218 (7 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 80 (5 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 13 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 21 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 105 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 265 (8 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 950.
Comps : Jujutsu Kaisen 0 had on the same day, Wednesday of its release week, 1.421 sold tickets in 7 theaters,

MHA's final number = on Thursday for Friday, was 565 sold tickets

and Belle's final number, also counted on Thursday for Friday, was 83 sold tickets.
Yes, I would be surprised if this movie does not reach 10M+.

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39 minutes ago, el sid said:

Beast, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, August 18:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 65 (3 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 42 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 5 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 2 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 13 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 41 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 50 (3 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 218.
Comps (all counted on the same day = Wednesday for Thursday): Crawl had 195 sold tickets in 7 theaters,

47 Meters Down Uncaged had 41 in 5 theaters,

Candyman had 371 sold tickets in 7 theaters

and The Forever Purge had 168 sold tickets, also in 7 theaters.

Beast, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, August 19:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 70 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 37 (8 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 7 (5 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 4 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 11 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 30 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 43 (6 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 202.
Comps (all counted on the same day = Wednesday for Friday): Crawl had 170 sold tickets in 7 theaters,

47 Meters Down: Uncaged had 47 sold tickets in 5 theaters,

Candyman had 447 in 7 theaters
and Old had 262 sold tickets, also in 7 theaters.

So the Thursday jump was only so-so but the Friday jump was good (42% since yesterday). I still see 10M+.
 

Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero, counted today at 11am EST for Thursday, August 18:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 259 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 241 (4 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 94 (3 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 25 (2 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 91 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 122 (4 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 446 (7 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.278.

Comp: TSS had on Wednesday for Thursday 1.656 sold tickets (with HBO Max but probably more walk-ups).

DBS: SH, counted today at 11am EST for Friday, August 19:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 248 (12 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 218 (7 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 80 (5 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 13 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 21 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 105 (8 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 265 (8 showtimes)


Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 950.
Comps : Jujutsu Kaisen 0 had on the same day, Wednesday of its release week, 1.421 sold tickets in 7 theaters,

MHA's final number = on Thursday for Friday, was 565 sold tickets

and Belle's final number, also counted on Thursday for Friday, was 83 sold tickets.
Yes, I would be surprised if this movie does not reach 10M+.

 

And Dragonball is only able to do 12 million

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5 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

What's The Invitation's long range forecast looking like? Is it worth tracking? Could set up something tomorrow

8-13 per BOP. As worth tracking as anything this weekend.

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7 hours ago, Gokira2012 said:

How much is Sony spending to release Dragonball in theaters (3,000) and only a 12 million OW,in the US, 2D anime is largely a small screen phenomena and has no future in American theaters 

 

 

I mean Demon Slayer , which is the biggest Anime theatrical hit of all time only got 50 million in the

us 

 

Sony would be better off giving Blur Studio 200 million and making a  3d CGI photo realistic DBZ movie

 

Many Dragonball fans will not be happy to see the films in 3D.

 

 

Crunchyroll (Sony) generally spent less than $10 million P&A on a single Anime theatrical release.  (Deadline reported that "Demon Slayer" P&A was also less than $10 million.)

Crunchyroll (Sony) is keeping making profit on their 2D Anime theatrical releases; otherwise they would not keep releasing them.    And US theaters are mostly happy to show these films in slow box office periods.   

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I just realized there hasn't been a PG-13 horror release since...Old, 13 months ago? Maybe The Invitation will take advantage of the barren marketplace to slightly overperform (or not, given how "been there, done that" the movie looks).

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On 8/17/2022 at 12:19 AM, Eric the Lion said:

Beast Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 48 144 7722 1.86%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 36

 

Comp

0.605x of Jungle Cruise T-2 (1.63M)

0.375x of Candyman T-2 (712K)

0.115x of Nope T-2 (734K)

Beast Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 48 201 7722 2.60%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 57

 

Comp

0.642x of Jungle Cruise T-1 (1.73M)

0.334x of Candyman T-1 (635K)

0.115x of Nope T-1 (738K)

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Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-2 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 57 1094 9902 11.05%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 127

 

Comp

0.885x of Jujutsu Kaisen 0 T-2 (2.55M)

Dragon Ball Super: Super Hero Greater Philadelphia Area Seat Report T-1 and Counting

  Sellouts Showings Seats Sold Total Seats Perct Sold
TOTALS 0 58 1315 9963 13.20%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 221

 

Comp

0.958x of Jujutsu Kaisen 0 T-1 (2.76M)

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Lmao, Beast is looking dire tomorrow night in NYC. Out of 6 standard showtimes, Empire 25 only has one seat sold across all showings, and Dolby/subtitled shows aren't selling that well either. Lincoln Square has 13 seats across three shows, but Dragon Ball also has PLF there. I will be shocked if 10M ends up happening because these sales scream 5-7M if not worse.

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22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Beast T-1 Jax 6 26 19 36 3,213 1.12%
    Phx 7 21 22 72 2,819 2.55%
    Ral 8 21 12 58 2,417 2.40%
  Total   21 68 53 166 8,449 1.96%
Dragon Ball T-1 Jax 6 31 82 456 5,957 7.65%
    Phx 7 23 84 601 4,607 13.05%
    Ral 8 31 54 395 3,819 10.34%
  Total   21 85 220 1,452 14,383 10.10%

 

Beast T-1 comps

 - Dune - .094x (480k)

 - Snake Eyes - .532x (745k)

 - Jungle Cruise - .359x (970k)

 - Bullet Train - .224x (750k)

 - Candyman - .565x (1.07m)

 - Old - .82x (1.23m)

 - Nope - .122x (778k)

 

Pretty good day for Beast.  Increased against everything except Old.  Looking like 800k range right now, but I could see it get up to 1m

 

Dragon Ball T-1 comp

 - JJK:0 - .97x (2.79m)

 -MHA (Fri) - 1.086x (3.13m)

 

Good day for Dragon Ball as well.  Still looking like the 3m range

Movie Day Area TC Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Beast T-0 Jax 6 26 10 46 3,213 1.43%
    Phx 7 21 21 93 2,819 3.30%
    Ral 8 21 34 92 2,417 3.81%
  Total   21 68 65 231 8,449 2.73%
Dragon Ball T-0 Jax 6 31 107 563 5,957 9.45%
    Phx 7 24 164 765 4,704 16.26%
    Ral 8 32 114 509 3,860 13.19%
  Total   21 87 385 1,837 14,521 12.65%

 

Beast T-0 comps

 - Dune - .104x (533k)

 - Snake Eyes - .558x (781k)

 - Jungle Cruise - .339x (915k)

 - Bullet Train - .221x (741k)

 - Candyman - .447x (849k)

 - Old - .704x (1.06m)

 - Nope - .116x (745k)

 

Didn't have the day it needed to get to 1m in my opinion.  Sticking with 800k until final check.

 

 

Dragon Ball T-0 comp

 - JJK:0 - 1.05x (3.028m)

 -MHA (Fri) - 1.13x (3.26m)

 

Huge day for Dragon Ball.  Looking like 3m should hit and possibly higher.  To put into another perspective, it has now sold more tickets than Halloween Kills, Ghostbusters: Afterlife, Sonic 2 and Lightyear.  Next up to pass are Nope and Dune.

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21 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Dragon Ball T-0 comp

 - JJK:0 - 1.05x (3.028m)

 -MHA (Fri) - 1.13x (3.26m)

 

Huge day for Dragon Ball.  Looking like 3m should hit and possibly higher.  To put into another perspective, it has now sold more tickets than Halloween Kills, Ghostbusters: Afterlife, Sonic 2 and Lightyear.  Next up to pass are Nope and Dune

Come on, Dragon Ball Super — America is yours!!!!!!

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Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-1 Beast PLF 9 6 25 1,746 1.43% $15.43 $385.75
    Standard 21 12 16 2,465 0.65% $12.79 $204.60
  Total   30 18 41 4,211 0.97% $14.40 $590.35
T-1 Dragon Ball PLF 27 94 1,193 6,811 17.52% $15.43 $18,402.48
    Standard 52 96 705 7,220 9.76% $13.60 $9,590.65
  Total   79 190 1,898 14,031 13.53% $14.75 $27,993.13
T-2 Beast (Fri) PLF 15 11 21 2,960 0.71% $14.76 $309.91
    Standard 35 26 37 4,013 0.92% $11.30 $417.98
  Total   50 37 58 6,973 0.83% $12.55 $727.89
T-2 Dragon Ball (Fri) PLF 39 135 805 10,590 7.60% $14.90 $11,997.32
    Standard 72 74 341 9,275 3.68% $13.75 $4,687.73
  Total   111 209 1,146 19,865 5.77% $14.56 $16,685.05

 

By matinee

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-2 Beast (Fri) N 23 35 50 3,085 1.62% $12.93 $646.44
    Y 27 2 8 3,888 0.21% $10.18 $81.45
  Total   50 37 58 6,973 0.83% $12.55 $727.89
T-2 Dragon Ball (Fri) N 103 207 1,112 18,551 5.99% $14.64 $16,275.25
    Y* 8 2 34 1,314 2.59% $12.05 $409.80
  Total   111 209 1,146 19,865 5.77% $14.56 $16,685.05

*Most of the early DBS shows are still using event pricing so I'm not marking them as matinee.

 

Beast T-1 comps

 - Massive Talent - .932x (778k)

 - Firestarter - 3.42x (1.28m)

*Take any comps with a grain of salt - sales are so low even a single ticket will change the comp a very large amount

 

*I don't have any anime comps yet, so this is just for future use.  CBM comps are between 5m and 6.3m, but I don't expect this to have nearly the same growth rate this week.  Friday sales look pretty good, but those same comps point to only a small increase from previews.

Santikos Tracking

 

By format

 

Day Movie Format Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-0 Beast PLF 9 16 41 1,746 2.35% $15.43 $632.63
    Standard 21 22 38 2,430 1.56% $11.69 $444.30
  Total   30 38 79 4,176 1.89% $13.63 $1,076.93
T-0 Dragon Ball PLF 27 187 1,380 6,811 20.26% $15.37 $21,214.36
    Standard 52 197 902 7,220 12.49% $13.65 $12,315.64
  Total   79 384 2,282 14,031 16.26% $14.69 $33,530.00
T-1 Beast (Fri) PLF 20 38 59 4,115 1.43% $14.24 $840.17
    Standard 35 25 62 4,013 1.54% $10.71 $664.25
  Total   55 63 121 8,128 1.49% $12.43 $1,504.42
T-1 Dragon Ball (Fri) PLF 44 147 952 10,740 8.86% $14.88 $14,161.94
    Standard 83 88 429 12,158 3.53% $13.73 $5,891.51
  Total   127 235 1,381 22,898 6.03% $14.52 $20,053.45

 

By matinee

 

Day Movie Mat Shows New Sold True Cap % Sold ATP Gross
T-1 Beast (Fri) N 25 37 87 3,547 2.45% $13.50 $1,174.47
    Y 30 26 34 4,581 0.74% $9.70 $329.95
  Total   55 63 121 8,128 1.49% $12.43 $1,504.42
T-1 Dragon Ball (Fri) N 116 229 1,341 21,494 6.24% $14.60 $19,573.00
    Y 11* 6 40 1,404 2.85% $12.01 $480.45
  Total   127 235 1,381 22,898 6.03% $14.52 $20,053.45

*Most of the early DBS shows are still using event pricing so I'm not marking them as matinee.

 

Beast T-0 comps

 - Massive Talent - .952x (795k)

 - Firestarter - 2.93x (1.1m)

*Take any comps with a grain of salt - sales are so low even a single ticket will change the comp a very large amount.  

 

I guess I'll stick with 800k previews.  Not much to go on here with very minimal sales.

 

*I don't have any anime comps yet, so this is just for future use.  CBM comps are between 5.1m and 6.2m, but I don't expect this to have nearly the same presales to walkups multiplier.  Friday sales look pretty good, but those same comps point to only a small increase from previews.

 

I took a look at the CBM comps in my regionals... Batman - 3.6m, NWH - 2.96m and DS2 - 3.19m.  Makes me think that previews could get to 3.5m or even higher.  Or maybe Santikos is very anime friendly.  Don't really know at this point, but this should be a helpful comp going forward.

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51 minutes ago, filmlover said:

Sales for Beast tonight are absolutely pathetic near me. Think an opening similar to Ambulance's $8.7M back in April is the ceiling now.

Interesting comp ... worth noting that 1) Ambulance made that $8.7M off only a $700K Thursday (12.4x, in April), and 2) the Philly and the Jax/Pho/Ral tracking samples are both roughly 40% higher for Beast Thursday as of T-1 (204/145 and 65/46)

 

On this same weekend last year, Free Guy posted 12.9x (with great WOM), and even Don't Breathe 2 had an 11x, $10.6M off a $965K Thursday. Kinda thinking Beast emulates the latter, almost exactly, with Thursday sales doubling from last check to final and pushing up close to $1M for a (barely) double digit OW

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