Highest grossing movies of all-time in the European Union (+UK)

[Issac Newton]

Thor: Love &Thunder - $51.3M

[MG10]

1 hour ago, Issac Newton said:

Thor: Love &Thunder - $51.3M

 

The opening isn't bad, but with these reviews it will be lucky to reach the 125M. And Ragnarok made more or less 140M...

[Issac Newton]

$0.9997-0.9999 = €1

 

Lowest since December 5, 2002

 

 

Is it possible to calculate ER loss from Europe, so that we can calculate how much Developing Country need to added in order to adjust ER losses for Avatar?

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by Issac Newton

[peludo]

17 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

$0.9997-0.9999 = €1

 

Lowest since December 5, 2002

 

 

Is it possible to calculate ER loss from Europe, so that we can calculate how much Developing Country need to added in order to adjust ER losses for Avatar?

 

 

Yes, same ER than in 2002. In December 2001, with HP1 and FOTR on screens, it was even worse.

 

In 2009-2010, Avatar had some of the most favorable ERs ever (over 1.40$=1€). On the other hand, inflation can compensate that loss. I used to follow closely the changes in ERs (I had a thread about ERs), but I have become too vague to make this kind of calculations. But just to put an example:

 

Avatar in Spain: €77m which meant $110m (1.43 ER). Today, without applying inflation, €77m=$77m, $33m lower, exactly a 30% drop for Eurozone.

 

The film averaged €8.1 per ticket because of 3D. Today a normal film averages €6.9 per ticket. If Avatar 2's tickets have €1.5 boost because of 3D (€8.4 per ticket), it would need to sell 13.1 million admissions to reach $110m. The first one sold 9.5 million admissions and record is hold by Titanic with 11.2 million. One word: Impossible.

[Issac Newton]

Using Charlie's EURO &MG10's USD

 

Current loss is roughly - $938M-$655M : $283M

 

Okay let's say $290M E.R. loss in EU+UK.

 

E.R. loss in Japan $76M // CIS $58M

 

$30M from Rest of World

 

Exactly should be $454M // rounding off to $460M

 

If it miss China release, I guess Avatar 2 run will be tricky unless there is any high performance coming from South East Asia, Middle East &South America. (If China release is promising than everything will shortout) I am not drawing conclusion but as you say, I think it will rare to see another $50M happening in Spain/Italy (or just impossible)

 

$655M in Europe itself is looking trickyyyyy....

[MG10]

From the data seen on Box Office Mojo at the moment Top Gun Maverick should have grossed over 250M in Europe (and with a really bad exchange rate), let's see if it will exceed 300M. His previous highest grossing movie wasn't a Mission Impossible one but War of the Worlds with over 150M...

Edited July 16, 2022 by MG10

[MG10]

Top Gun Maverick should have now passed the $300M in EU+UK despite the terrible exchange rates (and with 30% of the total from UK alone), let's see how far it can go

[Issac Newton]

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[setna]

On 1/25/2022 at 1:07 PM, peludo said:

Well, there were not exactly blockbusters at 60s. Ben-Hur was the Titanic of 50s with 11 Oscars, and James Bond is probably the first franchise ever and the only one during 60s. At least, the first global phenomenon. I do not find so crazy those results. People here could go to cinemas all the afternoon-evening seeing 2 or even 3 films in a row with a single ticket. People devoured every film shown. Tons of films sold 1 or 2 million admissions in those years by this system, although a bunch of them as you say reached higher amounts, but not just Ben-Hur or Dr. No.

 

There are more films in the 4-5 million or even 6 million during 60s and early 70s: Mary Poppins (4.98 million), The godfather (5 million), For a few dollars more (5.5 million), The graduate (5.3 million) or The little priest (6.5 million), and there are at least 3 local films over 4 million, with Jungle Book bordering 4 million (3.8 million).

 

And the political situation in Spain did not help either. For instance, Doctor Zhivago was banned until Franco's death because political context. When it was released it sold 7.2 million admissions. Gone with the Wind was just released in 2 theaters during the original release, one in Madrid and another one in Barcelona. Just with those 2 theaters, it sold 1 million admissions... in just 2 theaters. After that it has been probably released in more cities and theaters and it sold more admissions, but at the beginning the releases were very conditioned by censorship. Spanish market was not exactly normal along the dictatorship (1939-1975).

 

Just to notice that Titanic is at 11.26 million after 2012 re-release.

 

My father told me that GWTW was in the Madrid theatre for 5!!!!!!!!!! years..

[setna]

On 1/24/2022 at 8:07 PM, Bruce said:

If we count Soviet Union, then everything changed,so that's not count that.

China have same problem,admission number in 80s is super boomed,A movie called "地道战“ attracted more than 2B people watch it,the biggest admissions number in the movie history and more than 4 Titanic's admissions combined,and many foreign film also had a huge admissions number in China,the Yugoslavia film called "the bridge" have over 500m admissions in China,Rambo  have over 80m admissions and the first Superman movie also have huge 80m admissions in China.

but that's meaningless,for example ,it's just like Despacito have over 5B views on Youtube but doesn't mean there are real 5B people have watched this video.

 

Wikipedia says it made 469 M admissions and it´s the most attended film all time. I really have many doubts of the fidelity of this number cause it seems that China in the 80´s was a very poor country and 90 % of the people i don´t think they have time to go to cinema, they were very busy working maybe 16 hours per day to get some food and a very humble roof. So although China population in the 80´s was 900 M i don´t think more than 100 M were thinking about going to movies in that time, so this 469 M number is really difficult to believe, and also i don´t think they had in that time a high quality system of counting admissions, so...

[MG10]

After Avatar's re-release I've updated its impressive numbers and it's now 25 million higher reaching 963M, in particular I noticed that France and Germany alone made 340M dollars which is basically more than Black Adam's worldwide total... simply insane

[Issac Newton]

On 7/11/2022 at 12:23 PM, Issac Newton said:

Thor: Love &Thunder - $51.3M

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - $66.2M

 

From @DEADLINE

 

In Europe, France and Italy are overperforming versus expectations. 

[Sophia Jane]

On 9/20/2022 at 10:15 PM, setna said:

 

Wikipedia says it made 469 M admissions and it´s the most attended film all time. I really have many doubts of the fidelity of this number cause it seems that China in the 80´s was a very poor country and 90 % of the people i don´t think they have time to go to cinema, they were very busy working maybe 16 hours per day to get some food and a very humble roof. So although China population in the 80´s was 900 M i don´t think more than 100 M were thinking about going to movies in that time, so this 469 M number is really difficult to believe, and also i don´t think they had in that time a high quality system of counting admissions, so...

many movie showing for free and stay on streen for 10-20 years

Like I said you can see this admission like Youtube views,Baby shark got over 10B views and the entire world only have 7.8B person,so it’s totally meaningless

Edited November 14, 2022 by Bruce

[MG10]

8 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

Black Panther: Wakanda Forever - $66.2M

 

From @DEADLINE

 

In Europe, France and Italy are overperforming versus expectations. 

 

That's not bad at all but now I'm curious, how much did Doctor Strange do? For the totals I'll do it later

[MG10]

As said, let's compare the most recent superhero movies to the highest grossing ever in EU and UK (+Norway and Switzerland)

 

1) Endgame (2019) - 420M

2) No Way Home (2021) - 410M

3) Infinity War (2018) - 315M

4) Joker (2019) - 290M

5) The Dark Knight Rises (2012) - 260M

6) Spider-Man 3 (2007) - 245M

7) The Avengers (2012) - 240M

8)The Dark Knight (2008) - 235M

9) Age of Ultron (2015) - 220M

10) Iron Man 3 (2008) - 200M

 

Doctor Strange 2 = 180M

Thor 4 = 160M

The Batman = 130M

Black Adam = currently at 60M

Morbius = 30M 

[MG10]

Very excited to see how much will Avatar 2 gross in the Continent, as we can see in the first page of the thread the first made 960M dollars (for the 2009/2010 exchange rate) and the difference with the other films in the ranking is quite impressive: Titanic is second with 660M, The Force Awakens third with 580M, Skyfall fourth at 490M and then we have The Lion King and Lord of the Rings 3 at 460M

 

I think it has a chance to gross over 500M and maybe even reach the third position, but we mustn't forget that with the current exchange rate between dollar and euro/British pound/Swiss franc etc it would have made "just" 700M dollars

Edited December 11, 2022 by MG10

[setna]

9 hours ago, MG10 said:

Very excited to see how much will Avatar 2 gross in the Continent, as we can see in the first page of the thread the first made 960M dollars (for the 2009/2010 exchange rate) and the difference with the other films in the ranking is quite impressive: Titanic is second with 660M, The Force Awakens third with 580M, Skyfall fourth at 490M and then we have The Lion King and Lord of the Rings 3 at 460M

 

I think it has a chance to gross over 500M and maybe even reach the third position, but we mustn't forget that with the current exchange rate between dollar and euro/British pound/Swiss franc etc it would have made "just" 700M dollars

I think it will perform well, but it seems less and less people go to cinema in Europe in the last years, even tough, from some to some a movie is capable to trascend this trend and going to a "must see" event, let´s see if Avatar will do it. 
In its help, i think people is "hungry" of good and epic movies, so maybe Avatar will fill this emptiness.

For me the gretest will be a leggy run, in the fashion of the first Avatar, i prefer 1.8 B in this way rather than 2.5 B in a Endgame style, it´s much more fun to follow, but let´s see, only 4 days left!!!

[MG10]

Apparently it opened with over 100M in Europe despite having 3 World Cup matches in its opening week, now I'll follow with great interest the legs. At least the 400M should be sure, let's see how far it will go

 

[charlie Jatinder]

Avatar: The Way of Water Weekend

 

UK - $13.59M (1M admits)

France - $21.70M (1.85M)

Germany - $19.80M (1.33M)

Italy - $10.61M (1.13M)

Spain - $8M (1M)

 

Big 5 - $73.7M (6.31M)

 

Swiss - $3.13M (150K)

Austria - $2.40M (150K)

BENULX - $5.98M (425K est.)

Nordics - $9.69M (565k)

Poland - $2.73M (507K)

Czech - $2.28M (260K)

Hungary - $1.02M (177K)

Ukraine - $697K (156K)

Slovakia - $676K (83K)

Portugal - $1.39M (183K)

Balkans - $3.8M (500K)

Baltics - $875K (105K)

 

Total - $108.37M / €101.86M (9.58M)

Edited December 22, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[Sophia Jane]

2 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Avatar: The Way of Water Weekend

 

UK - $13.59M (1M admits)

France - $21.70M (1.85M)

Germany - $19.80M (1.33M)

Italy - $10.61M (1.13M)

Spain - $8M (1M)

 

Big 5 - $73.7M (6.31M)

 

Swiss - $3.13M (150K)

Austria - $2.40M (150K)

BENULX - $5.98M (425K est.)

Nordics - $9.69M (565k)

Poland - $2.73M (507K)

Czech - $2.28M (260K)

Hungary - $1.02M (177K)

Ukraine - $697K (156K)

Slovakia - $676K (83K)

Balkans - $3.8M (500K)

Baltics - $875K (105K)

 

Total - $106.98M / €100.56M (9.39M)

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