Cosmonaut Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Captain America failed here but given the Avengers effect I'm optimistic about the second one,around 20m total. 8.6m is not exactly a failure, but yeah, if movie will be better(+ not rusophobic), it could well go over 20m. Did you know that in Russia "Captain America" called "First Avenger"?) No "America" in the title)) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 8.6m is not exactly a failure, but yeah, if movie will be better(+ not rusophobic), it could well go over 20m.Did you know that in Russia "Captain America" called "First Avenger"?) No "America" in the title))I didn't know that,it's good to know however I still bet on 20m,that would mean around +140% over the first one But I hope for more of course.My heroic bet for next year is TASM2,I expect it over 30m,with 22m TASM was a success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ent Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 CBM in Russia in 2013 1) IM3 : $44.2 m 2) MOS : $10.4m 3) Wolverine : $22,3m 4) TDW : projecting $30+ m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Considering how MOS did, I don't think Cap2 will do much better. He's too American much like Supes, in fact, the guy is even more extreme in that he's a American patriotism personified Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkster Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 CBM in Russia in 2013 1) IM3 : $44.2 m2) MOS : $10.4m3) Wolverine : $22,3m4) TDW : projecting $30+ mThat's great! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkster Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Considering how MOS did, I don't think Cap2 will do much better. He's too American much like Supes, in fact, the guy is even more extreme in that he's a American patriotism personified Maybe if they play their cards they can make an impact with WINTER SOLDIER Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ent Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Considering how MOS did, I don't think Cap2 will do much better. He's too American much like Supes, in fact, the guy is even more extreme in that he's a American patriotism personified He is an Avenger more than anything else, so i think this will trump the fact that he is American....besides he is working with a russian assassin. Edited November 8, 2013 by Ent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Considering how MOS did, I don't think Cap2 will do much better. He's too American much like Supes, in fact, the guy is even more extreme in that he's a American patriotism personified 100% Cap is doomed here. They try to hide that he is America impersonated as they can hence "First Avenger: Different war" (soo stupid) name change. But only blind will not see that Steve is basically walking US flag. It will increase for sure due to Avengers popularity and Black Widow addition as a co-lead so I expect 10-15 mil for it. Legs would depend on how campy in Russian department will be story of Winter Soldier himself -if it will be heavy handled and full on stereotypes WOM will be toxic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 Considering how MOS did, I don't think Cap2 will do much better. He's too American much like Supes, in fact, the guy is even more extreme in that he's a American patriotism personified According to polls I saw some time ago most young Russians have a good opinion about the US and are open-minded about the rest of the world.The 'American' drawback is overrated,the young audiences don't care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 MOS bombed because the character is unknown there,the glory and birth of Superman took place during the Soviet era,when people were isolated from the Western culture,particularly the US culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 CBM in Russia in 20131) IM3 : $44.2 m2) MOS : $10.4m3) Wolverine : $22,3m4) TDW : projecting $30+ mthe only SH movie able to pass IM3 in the near future should be The Avengers.I'm optimistic about Superman vs Batman as well,I see it around 25m or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) Maybe if they play their cards they can make an impact with WINTER SOLDIERI doubt they even make that guy has any affiliations with Russians. So if not, don't think how much impact he can really make, considering that he's just a lackey/henchmen who is bad-ass and nothing more. The main purpose of WS is to provide personal conflicts for Steve, so it'll all circle around back to Cap.They could play up a romantic angle between him and BW, that could help maybe? Edited November 8, 2013 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmonaut Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 My heroic bet for next year is TASM2,I expect it over 30m,with 22m TASM was a success. For now, there is nobody to stop spider-man from getting ~30m on the calendar, so there is a big chance and potential for increase. Maybe even ~40m, but movie and marketing should be really good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 For now, there is nobody to stop spider-man from getting ~30m on the calendar, so there is a big chance and potential for increase. Maybe even ~40m, but movie and marketing should be really good.yes,40m could be possible with inflation,more screens,no competition from another blockbuster and a good release date,after the Sochi Olympics and well before the World Cup. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starkster Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I doubt they even make that guy has any affiliations with Russians. So if not, don't think how much impact he can really make, considering that he's just a lackey/henchmen who is bad-ass and nothing more. The main purpose of WS is to provide personal conflicts for Steve, so it'll all circle around back to Cap.They could play up a romantic angle between him and BW, that could help maybe? I was mostly going with marketting given that we don't know how his background gonna play in the movie. Black Widow should definitely help and romance might be a good way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I was mostly going with marketting given that we don't know how his background gonna play in the movie. Black Widow should definitely help and romance might be a good wayI get ya. But considering that he's a villain, the more Russian connections he has, the worse. They tried to separate Red Skull from Nazis as much as possible in TFA, let's see how they'll handle this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talon Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I get ya. But considering that he's a villain, the more Russian connections he has, the worse. They tried to separate Red Skull from Nazis as much as possible in TFA, let's see how they'll handle this one. I hope thy will not use Russian connection in WS case at all. It will help intensively + having bad-ass BW is a big bonus as she is Russian and one of the good team. Hope marketing will capitalize on here here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 8, 2013 Author Share Posted November 8, 2013 CBM in Russia in 20131) IM3 : $44.2 m2) MOS : $10.4m3) Wolverine : $22,3m4) TDW : projecting $30+ mYou forgot Kick Ass 2,epic failure of the year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 I hope thy will not use Russian connection in WS case at all. It will help intensively + having bad-ass BW is a big bonus as she is Russian and one of the good team. Hope marketing will capitalize on here here.Well, I agree to an extent. But stripping the guy off all Russian connections would mean rewriting all the essentials of that character's background. That could potentially go wrong. Also, it offers little window to link him with BW like their fans wish to see. I honestly don't care really. As long as he served his main purpose, all fine by me.Definitely agree about playing up Natasha over there.Oh wow, Cap is still far away. I got sidetracked, lol.Glad to see TDW doing well in Russia Big thanks to juni and Cosmonaut for all the updates 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ent Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 You forgot Kick Ass 2,epic failure of the year 5) Kick Ass2 : $1,8 m Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
