SpiderByte Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 It makes sense, we already know she's in charge of at least two of the members, so her being their Fury makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted October 14, 2023 Share Posted October 14, 2023 I don’t get the appeal in this one. It feels too similar to the Suicide Squad movies and the powerset is mainly supersoldiers, Ghost and a Superman-expy. So there’s no diverse or creative powerset to set it apart. Unless it’s out of the world good, I don’t see why this would do strongly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatnumRoyce Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 On 10/14/2023 at 9:18 AM, YM! said: I don’t get the appeal in this one. It feels too similar to the Suicide Squad movies and the powerset is mainly supersoldiers, Ghost and a Superman-expy. So there’s no diverse or creative powerset to set it apart. Unless it’s out of the world good, I don’t see why this would do strongly. Wouldn't this have been approved while Gunn was writing The Suicide Squad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertman2 Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 What if The Suicide Squad was too scared to have gore, characters with powers, and criticism of US imperialism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 47 minutes ago, robertman2 said: What if The Suicide Squad was too scared to have gore, characters with powers, and criticism of US imperialism That’s honestly what it seems like. Sentry and the writers probably make me think there’ll be themes on mental health, and maybe how the US failed soldiers’ mental health after the war but I think the powerset for the antiheroes seem uninteresting to the GA. There’s a few villains while not household names would add to the powerset, and could help the narrative. Mordo would be a fun addition, as could bringing back Hammer. As of right now, I think it’ll do about the same as The Marvels and probably be one of the lowest grossing MCU films. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted October 15, 2023 Share Posted October 15, 2023 5 hours ago, YM! said: As of right now, I think it’ll do about the same as The Marvels and probably be one of the lowest grossing MCU films Damn, predicting a bomb before even a single frame of footage has been shot. A level of pessimism unseen even on this board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YM! Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 22 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Damn, predicting a bomb before even a single frame of footage has been shot. A level of pessimism unseen even on this board. I mean we do this all the time for a variety of films. I don’t get what the big deal is. I still think Brave New World can do relatively well, as I do think there’s actual anticipation behind that one, and has Hulk stuff and DP3 will probably do around 400/900 DOM/WW even if it’s ass. It’s clear this year that the MCU name can’t sell everything and I have no reason to believe there’s anything special about Thunderbolts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wild Eric Posted October 16, 2023 Author Share Posted October 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Damn, predicting a bomb before even a single frame of footage has been shot. A level of pessimism unseen even on this board. We do this for movies every day lmfao 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valencia Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 Deadpool will be fine. Cap will flop. Thunderbolts will flop. Blade isn’t getting made. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 14 minutes ago, YM! said: I mean we do this all the time for a variety of films. I don’t get what the big deal is. I still think Brave New World can do relatively well, as I do think there’s actual anticipation behind that one, and has Hulk stuff and DP3 will probably do around 400/900 DOM/WW even if it’s ass. It’s clear this year that the MCU name can’t sell everything and I have no reason to believe there’s anything special about Thunderbolts. It was like Nut Job Never Again (aka Nut Job 2) - the MINUTE that got approved, it was an obvious bomb in the making...and it was in the reality... Some movies are clear from the concept stage and budgeting stage that they have no chance... One from this year was Indy 5... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted October 16, 2023 Share Posted October 16, 2023 (edited) 11 hours ago, Valencia said: Blade isn’t getting made. Blade has sets currently built. It was actually going to shoot before Thunderbolts. I have no idea why people assume it's getting scrapped the second the strike ends. Certainly nobody is saying the same about Fantastic Four...despite the fact that Fantastic Four is actually less far along in development , and less successful historically, at least as far as the previous films receptions. Edited October 16, 2023 by SpiderByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 Now thatwbe know Deadpools not resuming filming till January, and it'd be surprising (not impossible but probably unlikely) that this begins filming before it, there's a more than decent chance this gets bumped to Blades spot, Blade to FF, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masketta Man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 This is more of a covert Black Widow 2 than it is a proper Thunderbolts movie. In other news, the new comic book with the movie roster was cancelled before issue #2 was even solicited and two months before the first issue even hit the shelves, it bodes well if not even the comic readers are interested. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DInky Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 17 minutes ago, Masketta Man said: This is more of a covert Black Widow 2 than it is a proper Thunderbolts movie. In other news, the new comic book with the movie roster was cancelled before issue #2 was even solicited and two months before the first issue even hit the shelves, it bodes well if not even the comic readers are interested. Where are you getting this? #1 is still scheduled for December and #2 for January. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masketta Man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, DInky said: Where are you getting this? #1 is still scheduled for December and #2 for January. January issue was solicited as issue #2 of 4, so it will be a 4-issue miniseries instead of an ongoing like the original announcement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DInky Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 3 minutes ago, Masketta Man said: January issue was solicited as issue #2 of 4, so it will be a 4-issue miniseries instead of an ongoing like the original announcement. Marvel often doesn't specify if a title is a miniseries or an ongoing in their initial announcement. Nothing was cancelled, it was always a mini. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 39 minutes ago, Masketta Man said: This is more of a covert Black Widow 2 than it is a proper Thunderbolts movie. In other news, the new comic book with the movie roster was cancelled before issue #2 was even solicited and two months before the first issue even hit the shelves, it bodes well if not even the comic readers are interested. The first draft reportedly was, this new one isn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masketta Man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, DInky said: Marvel often doesn't specify if a title is a miniseries or an ongoing in their initial announcement. Nothing was cancelled, it was always a mini. Issue #1 was solicited with all the pomp and circunstance of their usual ongoings, lots of variants and more importantly no "(of 4)" in the title, it just appeared after the #2 solicit. So yeah, it's a stealth cancellation. 3 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: The first draft reportedly was, this new one isn't. Did they remove Yelena Belova, Red Guardian and other characters that never been part of the team and added Songbird, Moonstone, Zemo, Venom, Red Hulk? No? Then it's still a poorly disguised Black Widow 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DInky Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 15 minutes ago, Masketta Man said: Issue #1 was solicited with all the pomp and circunstance of their usual ongoings, lots of variants and more importantly no "(of 4)" in the title, it just appeared after the #2 solicit. So yeah, it's a stealth cancellation. https://aiptcomics.com/2023/09/21/full-december-2023-marvel-comics-solicitations/ https://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-comics-december-2023-solicits-covers/ https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-december-2023-solicitations/ Issue #1 was solicited as 1 of 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masketta Man Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 2 hours ago, DInky said: https://aiptcomics.com/2023/09/21/full-december-2023-marvel-comics-solicitations/ https://www.gamesradar.com/marvel-comics-december-2023-solicits-covers/ https://www.cbr.com/marvel-comics-december-2023-solicitations/ Issue #1 was solicited as 1 of 4. Oh sorry, my bad then, the site I checked up had it listed as an ongoing. Either way, having a 4 issue miniseries, not even enough to fill a trade paperback doesn't inspire confidence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...