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12 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

at my theater the Toys are definitely behind the Lions in their 5th weekend ... this is on the lower end of my (already low) expectations. OuaTiH is winning the weekend with ease.

Locally the first showing for any of the top 3 movies is still 1.5 hours away but I agree with you Hollywood should easily win today and the whole weekend while TLK might seems to have a solid chance at a #2 finish this weekend.

 

Counted at the cinestar Bremen, don't know if I update through out the day.

 

Hollywood:

2D 13:50: 15 / 322 (12:15: 6)

2D 16:30: 22 / 425 (12:15: 3)

2D 19:40: 117 / 572 (12:15: 47)

2D 20:15: 77 / 425 (12:15: 33)

2D 22:40: 9 / 425 (12:15: 0)

 

Total: 240 / 2169 (12:15: 89) +169.7%

 

Toy Story 4:

3D 14:10: 9 / 279 (12:15: 0)

3D 16:45: 17 / 279 (12:15: 4)

 

2D 14:30: 25 / 425 (12:15: 5)

2D 17:10: 37 / 572 (12:15: 12)

2D 19:30: 33 / 279 (12:15: 12)

2D 22:30: 6 / 280 (12:15: 0)

 

Total: 127 / 2114 (12:15: 33) +284.8%

 

The Lion King:

3D 13:40: 6 / 425 (12:15: 0)

3D 16:20: 17 / 170 (12:15: 7)

3D 20:20: 42 / 322 (12:15: 13)

 

2D 14:20: 15 / 572 (12:15: 2)

2D 17:30: 21 / 322 (12:15: 4)

2D 20:00: 52 / 296 (12:15: 22)

2D 22:20: 10 / 156 (12:15: 0)

 

Total: 163 / 2263 (12:15: 48) +239.6% (142 from the afternoon and evening showings)

Comp to last weekend: -32.4%

Most likely a Thursday of around 40k because morning showings dropped really hard.

 

Hobbs & Shaw:

2D 13:30: 10 / 296 (12:15: 2)

2D 16:50: 26 / 296 (12:15: 2)

2D 19:20: 76 / 425 (12:15: 26)

2D 22:10: 15 / 279 (12:15: 0)

 

Total: 127 / 1296 (12:15: 30) + 323.3%

Comp to last weekend: -55.5% (ignoring the 13:30 showing)

That would mean a 25k Thursday or maybe lower.

 

While TLK has the most seats available its number is screwed as a significant part are the 2 pm showings which while strong for TLK never were the strongest part of the day, that was most of the time the 8 pm showings and presales suggest it stays like that.

None the less its kinda hilarious that TLK in its 5th weekend gets more seats than TS4 and Hollywood.

The multi should be best for TLK, then TS4, H&S and then Hollywood with the worst presales multi.

The IM (Thursday to weekend) should be best for TS4, and then TLK, H&S and Hollywood.

 

Multi was different than expected: H&S, TS4, TLK, Hollywood.

 

 

Really looking forward to how it actually turns out, we will probably know in 8 hours or so.

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Thursday actuals (Blickpunkt:film):

Hollywood: 100k (€1000k ≈ $1110k)

TLK: 75k (€660k ≈ $732.5k) (-11.7%)

TS4: 55k (€435k ≈ $482.5k)

Leber...: 50k (€385k ≈ $427.5k) (+61%)

H&S: 40k (€350k ≈ 390k) (-27.3%)

 

Apparently TLK barely dropped and locally the drops a lot harsher than overall.

Not certain the Leberk. number is correct, that would be an insane increase.

I think the movies will end the weekend in this order too.

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16 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

Thursday actuals (Blickpunkt:film):

Hollywood: 100k (€1000k ≈ $1110k)

TLK: 75k (€660k ≈ $732.5k) (-11.7%)

TS4: 55k (€435k ≈ $482.5k)

Leber...: 50k (€385k ≈ $427.5k) (+61%)

H&S: 40k (€350k ≈ 390k) (-27.3%)

 

Apparently TLK barely dropped and locally the drops a lot harsher than overall.

Not certain the Leberk. number is correct, that would be an insane increase.

I think the movies will end the weekend in this order too.

Thursday was a holiday in some regions, especially Bavaria, which would inflate Lerberkäsjunkie a lot I guess

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First estimates from insidekino.de

 

#1: UoaTiH - 470k

#2: LionKing - 300k (-26%)

#3: ToyStory4 - 225k

#4/5:  Lerberkäs/H&S with 150k each

(that would be a 47% drop for the action and only an 8% drop for the crime comedy)

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23 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

First estimates from insidekino.de

 

#1: UoaTiH - 470k

#2: LionKing - 300k (-26%)

#3: ToyStory4 - 225k

#4/5:  Lerberkäs/H&S with 150k each

(that would be a 47% drop for the action and only an 8% drop for the crime comedy)

TLK expected total after the weekend is 4375k and that would mean 225k over the weekdays. So they were slightly worse than expected, none the less the target still is beating Endgame. I had already buried my stupid predictions of TLK over Endgame after TLK's OWend (or maybe even before when Endgame reached 5M). And considering it looks like it will hold well against TS4 and Hollywood I guess it will be able to hold on nicely for a few weeks more. 

Also this means that TLK's 5th weekend will be slightly bigger than Aladdin's OWend.

 

Ouch at TS4.. So adjusting the comps upwards probably was dump and its multi isn't extra ordinary good.

 

Pets 75k (total 2.2M) so this will become the top grossing non-disney movie and overall only behind Endgame and TLK.

So until it we will be looking at a situation as following:

TLK &Endgame above 4.5M and the rest below 2.5M. Thinking Frozen 2 and RTOS will join TLK & Endgame while most other movies will stay below Pets 2.

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1 minute ago, Taruseth said:

TLK &Endgame above 4.5M and the rest below 2.5M. Thinking Frozen 2 and RTOS will join TLK & Endgame while most other movies will stay below Pets 2.

It's a Mouse world ...

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57 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

TLK &Endgame above 4.5M and the rest below 2.5M. Thinking Frozen 2 and RTOS will join TLK & Endgame while most other movies will stay below Pets 2.

I have great hope that IT2 may at least come close to 3M again... Other than that it's probably just F2 and SW9 to get there, as you say.

 

TS4 would be just laughable if it wasn't that sad. This franchise has really no appeal to Germans. I wonder what they would have to do in order to make it appealing.

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24 minutes ago, Aristis said:

TS4 would be just laughable if it wasn't that sad. This franchise has really no appeal to Germans. I wonder what they would have to do in order to make it appealing.

Easy one, talking animals instead of toys.

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Ahhh the good old German boxoffice, never fails to disapoint 😛 

Anyway happy with a pretty good OW for OUATIH!

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It's crazy to think that Slop 2 is the third Hollywood grosser of the year so far with just 2.5M admissions (projected total), when in France that'd be barely enough to enter the top 10.

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24 minutes ago, Omni said:

It's crazy to think that Slop 2 is the third Hollywood grosser of the year so far with just 2.5M admissions (projected total), when in France that'd be barely enough to enter the top 10.

I wish Germans were even close to be as cinephile as the French are.

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7 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

First estimates from insidekino.de

 

#1: UoaTiH - 470k

#2: LionKing - 300k (-26%)

#3: ToyStory4 - 225k

#4/5:  Lerberkäs/H&S with 150k each

(that would be a 47% drop for the action and only an 8% drop for the crime comedy)

that hollywood number isn't very encouraging 

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37 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

that hollywood number isn't very encouraging 

It's above all Tarentino movies but Django Unchained. And actually better than I thought, don't know what everyone expected. Actually thought there was a chance for it to open below TLK's 5th weekend.

 

1 hour ago, Omni said:

It's crazy to think that Slop 2 is the third Hollywood grosser of the year so far with just 2.5M admissions (projected total), when in France that'd be barely enough to enter the top 10.

The hollywood doesn't even matter, the local movies are doing just as awful.

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3 hours ago, Taruseth said:

It's above all Tarentino movies but Django Unchained. And actually better than I thought, don't know what everyone expected. Actually thought there was a chance for it to open below TLK's 5th weekend.

 

Of the 5 Leo's movie in this decade , only the great Gatsby had opening less than 500k (without notable director), this looks like will join the below 500k club despite QT+Leo combo .

 

Plus, the movie won't have Oscar bump like Leo's recent year movies to keep its holding power, the final total may fall even lower.  

 

Hope the actual weekend will turn out higher  

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2 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

Of the 5 Leo's movie in this decade , only the great Gatsby had opening less than 500k (without notable director), this looks like will join the below 500k club despite QT+Leo combo .

 

Plus, the movie won't have Oscar bump like Leo's recent year movies to keep its holding power, the final total may fall even lower.  

 

Hope the actual weekend will turn out higher  

Sorry, don't get what you mean. Leo had 7 movies afaik, unless you don't count 2010 as part of this decade.

So it will join the majority?

 

Gatsby opened with 262k and the Revenant with 380k (though that to be honest increased on it's second weekend to 423k) and even the wolf of wall street opened with just 512k - yeah, I know those are all true weekends - where Hollywood will probably only do 400k. Django Unchained was an exception towards the upper end for both, it's the highest grossing (double the second) for Tarantino  and the 2nd highest for DiCaprio. 

Furthermore J. Edgar (clint eastwood directed) had 158k admission total and Shutter Island (Scorsese directed) opened below 500k as well (even that full opening week was below 500k).

Inception opened above that, but that and Django are two out of 7 movies, not really a nice track record and Wall Street which barely got past 500k.

Exactly the oscars helped the previous ones to their total. If the movie is well liked it can hold well.

 

And Brad Pitt was big 10-25 years ago, out of his 18 films above one million only one movie (#16) World War Z is from the past 10 years. All movies after that missed 750k admission and only 12 years a slave even got past 405k.

 

Don't think it will, TLK proves itself again and again and honestly, Hollywood that isn't half as disappointing as TS4 which is an utter train wreck.

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Friday:

 

Hollywood:

2D 13:50: 7 / 322 (13:30: 4)

2D 16:30: 45 / 425 (13:30: 25)

2D 19:40: 87 / 572 (13:30: 45)

2D 20:15: 147 / 425 (13:30: 74)

2D 22:40: 62 / 425 (13:30: 29)

 

Total: 348 / 2169 (13:30: 177) +96.6%

Comp to yesterday: + 108 / nc => +45%!

So I'd say probably 120-130k which would mean that it might end up a little higher. Thinking Saturday should be flat and Sunday will drop.

 

Toy Story 4:

3D 14:10: 8 / 279 (13:30: 4)

3D 16:45: 11 / 279 (13:30: 7)

 

2D 14:30: 32 / 425 (13:30: 8 )

2D 17:10: 53 / 572 (13:30: 16)

2D 19:30: 29 / 279 (13:30: 9)

2D 22:30: 10 / 280 (13:30: 0)

 

Total: 143 / 2114 (13:30: 44) +225%

Comp to yesterday: + 16 / nc => +12.6%!

Mmhh, well this isn't good, though stronger afternoon and midday showings suggest that it should do better business tomorrow and on Sunday. Today I don't think it got much past yesterday overall.

 

Hobbs & Shaw:

2D 13:30: 4 / 296 (13:30: 6)

2D 16:50: 27 / 296 (13:30: 4)

2D 19:20: 148 / 296 (13:30: 41)

2D 22:10: 45 / 279 (13:30: 9)

 

Total: 224 / 1167 (12:15: 60) + 323.3%

Comp to yesterday: + 97 / -129 => +76.4%!

Looks nice to be honest. Thinking 50+k should be possible.

 

The Lion King:

3D 13:40: 9 / 425 (13:30: 8 )

3D 16:20: 0 / 170 (13:30: 0)

3D 20:20: 73 / 280 (13:3032)

 

2D 14:20: 15 / 572 (13:30: 6)

2D 17:30: 30 / 322 (13:30: 12)

2D 20:00: 101 / 322 (13:30: 27)

2D 22:20: 23 / 156 (13:30: 0)

 

Total: 251 / 2247 (13:30: 85) +239.6% (142 from the afternoon and evening showings)

Comp to yesterday: + 88 / -16 => +54%!

Honestly thinking this could be around 90k.

 

 

No comp to last Friday as I didn't count.

 

Locally the weekend seems to be heading into a good direction (apart from TS4), let's hope that Saturday and Sunday are able to keep it up.

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2nd insidekino trend:

Only minimal changes, TLK and h&S up 10k, leber down 10k.

 

Hollywood: 470k (so 400k weekend)

TLK: 310k (-23.6%)

Toy Story 4: 225k

H&S: 160k (-43.9%)

Leber: 140k (-14.1%)

Pets 2: 75k (-22.7%)

Benjamin Blümchen: 40k (-21.6%)

Yesterday: 35k (-26.5%)

Die drei !!!: 27.5k (-30.4%)

Spidey: 25k (-52.8%)

Und wer nimmt den Hund?: 25k (-11.7%)

 

Maybe TLK can get a 325k (-20%) weekend and a 4.4+M total after this weekend. Should make a total of 5.2M more likely (would need to add 2.5x this weekend after its already at a 4.7x after this weekend). And brings 5.5M closer to be a real possibility (would need to add 3.4x this weekend).

5.2M would mean a total above Endgame (5.125M)

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2. Trend:
Once Upon a Time in Hollywood (470T), Der König der Löwen (310T), A Toy Story - Alles hört auf kein Kommando (225T), Fast & Furious - Hobbs & Shaw (160T), Leberkäsjunkie (140T), Pets 2 (75T),
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2 hours ago, Taruseth said:

2nd insidekino trend:

Only minimal changes, TLK and h&S up 10k, leber down 10k.

 

Hollywood: 470k (so 400k weekend)

TLK: 310k (-23.6%)

Toy Story 4: 225k

H&S: 160k (-43.9%)

Leber: 140k (-14.1%)

Pets 2: 75k (-22.7%)

Benjamin Blümchen: 40k (-21.6%)

Yesterday: 35k (-26.5%)

Die drei !!!: 27.5k (-30.4%)

Spidey: 25k (-52.8%)

Und wer nimmt den Hund?: 25k (-11.7%)

 

Maybe TLK can get a 325k (-20%) weekend and a 4.4+M total after this weekend. Should make a total of 5.2M more likely (would need to add 2.5x this weekend after its already at a 4.7x after this weekend). And brings 5.5M closer to be a real possibility (would need to add 3.4x this weekend).

5.2M would mean a total above Endgame (5.125M)

where lion king will end in dollars ? 60 ?

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