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On 6/20/2022 at 1:21 PM, altglascontainer said:

 

Thor Love & Thunder (July 6th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-16

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 64 905 16414 5,51%

 

Total Seats Sold Last 5 Days: 404

 

Comp

2.351x of The Batman T-16 (1.19M€/115.500 Adm. OD)

0.696x of Top Gun 2 T-16 (0.59M€/57.750 Adm. OD)

DS2 - missed

 

 

Thor Love & Thunder (July 6th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-9

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 70 1820 17572 10,36%

 

Total Seats Sold Last 7 Days: 915

 

Comp

1.234x of The Batman T-9 (0.63M€/60.750 Adm. OD)

0.336x of DS 2 T-9 (0.57M€/54.000 Adm. OD)

TG2 - missed

JWD - missed

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2 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

everything a bit up from latest estimates, not bad

Except Lightyear - that movie dropped 2.5k.

 

Its performance is truly awful. 11 days to reach just 100k and then total 250k? That is nothing.

 

Don't know if I will count Minion this evening.

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1 hour ago, Taruseth said:

Except Lightyear - that movie dropped 2.5k.

 

Its performance is truly awful. 11 days to reach just 100k and then total 250k? That is nothing.

 

Don't know if I will count Minion this evening.

 

If there is anything to count.

 

I just looked up the showtimes for minions in my tracking area, there were six showings in one location. cineplex, cinemaxx, traumpalast and cinestar don't have any showings advertised. It's a headscratcher.

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15 minutes ago, altglascontainer said:

 

If there is anything to count.

 

I just looked up the showtimes for minions in my tracking area, there were six showings in one location. cineplex, cinemaxx, traumpalast and cinestar don't have any showings advertised. It's a headscratcher.

Damn, I thought they'd put them online today - but maybe tomorrow - thought we might have our first 1m opener - yeah that looks unlikely too happen now.

Not even cinemaxx? For Lightyear they already had shows up on the weekend.

That's really weird.

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10 hours ago, Taruseth said:

Damn, I thought they'd put them online today - but maybe tomorrow - thought we might have our first 1m opener - yeah that looks unlikely too happen now.

Not even cinemaxx? For Lightyear they already had shows up on the weekend.

That's really weird.

My estimates for the Minions 2 changed so much - when it was announced I thought it would do well, but below the original one (with a similar opening weekend), then in 2019 Frozen 2 did a 1.4m opening weekend, so I thought Minions 2 might do 1.5-2.0m depending on the weather, than a couple month ago I thought at least the opening weekend should be above the first and now...

Cinemaxx still has no shows up.

 

TFSS at the two CS:

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total   102 28 48968

0,06

 

It gets seats like it’s going to open to numbers like The Rise of Skywalker, Frozen II or Endgame – at one it gets the largest and one of the two second largest and at 2pm also the other and for the 5pm area it instead gets one of the two third largest – the CS Frankfurt instead (outside of Friday) gives it the largest, second largest, third largest and fourth largest for the whole day (including 10-11pm slot – only the fourth largest is free at that slot):

At the CS Bremen Endgame had 12252 seats available this has 18248 available for the weekend – lol (Endgame did get some showings added throughout the weekend so probably ended closer to 16k seats).

At both TLK had 58k (so 9k more – still can’t believe how many seats they opened up for this movie) for the weekend. And TROS had 53k (so 4k more).

I assume Frozen II was somewhere around that too -> They expect this to perform absolutely insane.

Adjusted comps:

LY => 103k

 

Ouch - even if this has way better walk ups, I'd bet on a sub 500k OWend and right now would probably see it around 300k.

But we should still keep in mind, that Minions is probably the walk up heaviest franchise that exists and cinemas allocating it showings like they only do for million openers (and TLK) means there is no need to book a seat in advance.

Also: This movie will fall and rise with the weather: Way sunnier and hotten than predicted (like 35 °C on Saturday and Sunday it it will open with 250k - less than 20 °C and some light rain and Friday, Saturday and Sunday each could easily be over 250k).

It will most definitely replace Elvis as the movie with the biggest presales multi

Let's see what the next two days bring.

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9 hours ago, Taruseth said:

Ouch - even if this has way better walk ups, I'd bet on a sub 500k OWend and right now would probably see it around 300k.

yep, presales at my cinema are not promising, either, but then, with family releases presales are always unreliable. At least weather should stay unstable until Friday and maybe not too good even on Sat/sun so there's a good chance for strong walk-in sales.

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Germany's Top12 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Jurassic World 3

195.912

693

283

1.308.624

14.986.417

-32

3

2

Top Gun 2

154.540

647

239

2.136.028

21.995.561

-14

5

3

Elvis

80.752

586

138

91.871

973.734

-

1

4

The Black Phone

47.957

297

161

52.281

488.030

-

1

5

Die Geschichte der Menschheit …

45.159

449

101

121.805

1.096.826

-20

2

6

Lightyear

39.493

522

76

106.297

862.869

-28

2

7

Doctor Strange 2

14.048

226

62

2.166.582

22.960.598

-45

8

8

Paw Patrol: Jet to the Rescue

13.837

436

32

129.506

694.653

-5

4

9

Mia and Me

13.668

535

26

239.641

1.746.818

-11

5

10

Immenhof

9.474

511

19

209.579

1.552.078

-23

5

11

The Bad Boys

8.455

248

34

844.579

6.214.334

-4

15

12

Fantastic Beasts 3

8.036

221

36

2.913.010

29.360.916

-28

12

Not a good weekend but family releases had decent holds (with the exception of Lightyear, that is one unmitigated flop …) - Top Gun Maverick had a fine hold, it crossed 2mil and is steering towards a total of well over 2,5mil. If not for Thor, I'd say it would have a chance to reach 3mil!

Next weekend: Minions 2 will be #1 but it's not guaranteed it can come anywhere near the success of ist predecessors. If we look at the franchise, there was a clear upwards trend:

Despicable Me 1: 2,5mil total; DM2: 3,7mil; DM3: 4,7mil; Minions: 6,9mil!!!

These are some mighty big footsteps to step into and presales look undewhelming (to stay polite), if it has a >500k OW I'd consider that pretty good with current presales!

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On 6/27/2022 at 11:33 AM, altglascontainer said:

 

Thor Love & Thunder (July 6th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-9

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 70 1820 17572 10,36%

 

Total Seats Sold Last 7 Days: 915

 

Comp

1.234x of The Batman T-9 (0.63M€/60.750 Adm. OD)

0.336x of DS 2 T-9 (0.57M€/54.000 Adm. OD)

TG2 - missed

JWD - missed

 

Thor Love & Thunder (July 6th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-8

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 178 2356 36087 6,53%

 

Total Seats Sold Last Day: 536

 

Comp

1.504x of The Batman T-8 (0.76M€/74.000 Adm. OD)

1.024x of Top Gun T-8 (0.87M€/85.000 Adm. OD)

1.676x of JW: D T-8 (1.92M€/168.500 Adm. OD)

DS2 - missed

 

Huge Jump for Thor. The best presale day so far out in comparison to DS2, Top Gun, JW and Batman.

 

Minion2 (June 30th) Ba-Wü OD Seat Report T-2

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 209 299 46880 0,64%

 

Total Seats Sold Last Day: 299

 

Comp

1.801x of Lightyear T-2 (0.74M€/88.750 Adm. OW)

 

Minions doesn't look really compelling. But it's the first day of presales, so lets see what tomorrow will bring.

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Germany Box Office (Additional)

 

Belle - €15,945 / €448,224

Spider-Man: No Way Home - €7,244 / €45,789,589

Jujutsu Kaisen Movie 0 - €312 / €2,530,711

 

Austria Box Office 

 

Top Gun: Maverick - €236,339 / €4,087,593

Jurassic World: Dominion - €223,882 / €1,948,768

Elvis - €150,066 🆕

 

Misc.

Belle - €1,509 / €53,816

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On 6/27/2022 at 10:52 PM, Taruseth said:

My estimates for the Minions 2 changed so much - when it was announced I thought it would do well, but below the original one (with a similar opening weekend), then in 2019 Frozen 2 did a 1.4m opening weekend, so I thought Minions 2 might do 1.5-2.0m depending on the weather, than a couple month ago I thought at least the opening weekend should be above the first and now...

Cinemaxx still has no shows up.

 

TFSS at the two CS:

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total   102 28 48968

0,06

 

It gets seats like it’s going to open to numbers like The Rise of Skywalker, Frozen II or Endgame 

– at one it gets the largest and one of the two second largest and at 2pm also the other and for the 5pm area it instead gets one of the two third largest – the CS Frankfurt instead (outside of Friday) gives it the largest, second largest, third largest and fourth largest for the whole day (including 10-11pm slot – only the fourth largest is free at that slot):

At the CS Bremen Endgame had 12252 seats available this has 18248 available for the weekend – lol (Endgame did get some showings added throughout the weekend so probably ended closer to 16k seats).

At both TLK had 58k (so 9k more – still can’t believe how many seats they opened up for this movie) for the weekend. And TROS had 53k (so 4k more).

I assume Frozen II was somewhere around that too -> They expect this to perform absolutely insane.

Adjusted comps:

LY => 103k

 

Ouch - even if this has way better walk ups, I'd bet on a sub 500k OWend and right now would probably see it around 300k.

But we should still keep in mind, that Minions is probably the walk up heaviest franchise that exists and cinemas allocating it showings like they only do for million openers (and TLK) means there is no need to book a seat in advance.

Also: This movie will fall and rise with the weather: Way sunnier and hotten than predicted (like 35 °C on Saturday and Sunday it it will open with 250k - less than 20 °C and some light rain and Friday, Saturday and Sunday each could easily be over 250k).

It will most definitely replace Elvis as the movie with the biggest presales multi

Let's see what the next two days bring.

Minions 2: Counted on 28th June 2022 at 23:15

TFSS at all three cinemas:

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total   144 202 59476

0,34

 

+174 tickets / +621 %

 

Comps:

Lightyear => 270k

Menschheit => 411k

Elvis => 297k

Honestly didn't think it could do something like this.

Jump in the next 24 hours will obviously be way smaller, but those very limited comps look a lot better than they did yesterday and maybe Minions 2 and Germany will surprise us all and do what the first did.

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14 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

Austria Box Office 

 

Top Gun: Maverick - €236,339 / €4,087,593

Jurassic World: Dominion - €223,882 / €1,948,768

Elvis - €150,066 🆕

Austria has been doing a bit better than Germany the last weeks ... Maverick is already past 300k admissions here, the first "Golden Ticket" this year!

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Thor Love & Thunder (July 6th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-7

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 178 2645 36087 7,33%

 

Total Seats Sold Last Day: 289

 

Comp

0.414x of DS2 T-7 (0.71M€/66.750 Adm. OD)

1.545x of JW: D T-7 (1.77M€/155.500 Adm. OD)

Batman - missed

Top Gun - missed

 

 

Minion2 (June 30th) Ba-Wü OD Seat Report T-2

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 211 690 47357 1,46%

 

Total Seats Sold Last Day: 391

 

Comp

2.117x of Lightyear T-1 (0.97M€/117.000 Adm. OW)

 

The comp for lightyear is complete ass, i think. But i don't have anything better.

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23 hours ago, Taruseth said:

Minions 2: Counted on 28th June 2022 at 23:15

TFSS at all three cinemas:

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total   144 202 59476

0,34

 

+174 tickets / +621 %

 

Comps:

Lightyear => 270k

Menschheit => 411k

Elvis => 297k

Honestly didn't think it could do something like this.

Jump in the next 24 hours will obviously be way smaller, but those very limited comps look a lot better than they did yesterday and maybe Minions 2 and Germany will surprise us all and do what the first did.

Minions 2: Counted on 29th June 2022 at 23:15

TFSS at all three cinemas:

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total   144 401 59476

0,67

 

+199 tickets / +99 %

(Performance was quite different across the cinemas, the two CS increase by more than 120% while the CX increased by less than 50 % - it has like 1/3 of its tickets sold in one block (in a show) on Thursday.

 

TS4 => 246k

Lightyear => 212k

Menschheit => 476k

Elvis => 337k

(Five Feet Apart => 500k)

 

Yeah, after yesterday I expected more like +300 - +400 tickets today so +150-+200 %.

 

Its probably one if not the most walk up heavy franchise, but this isn't looking too good:

So for now I'd say 450k OWend and a total of around 3m

But if it can keep its walk ups strong because its a good movie it can open to 650k and finish with 5.0m

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12 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

How will JWD compare.

 

If my numbers are anything to go by - absolutely s*** - JWD is a lot more presales heavy than animation movies (aside from Frozen probably).

JWD for my comp would suggest Minions to open to 119k.

Actually JWD was more presales heavy than TLK in my sample.

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5 hours ago, Taruseth said:

Minions 2: Counted on 29th June 2022 at 23:15

TFSS at all three cinemas:

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total   144 401 59476

0,67

 

+199 tickets / +99 %

(Performance was quite different across the cinemas, the two CS increase by more than 120% while the CX increased by less than 50 % - it has like 1/3 of its tickets sold in one block (in a show) on Thursday.

 

TS4 => 246k

Lightyear => 212k

Menschheit => 476k

Elvis => 337k

(Five Feet Apart => 500k)

 

Yeah, after yesterday I expected more like +300 - +400 tickets today so +150-+200 %.

 

Its probably one if not the most walk up heavy franchise, but this isn't looking too good:

So for now I'd say 450k OWend and a total of around 3m

But if it can keep its walk ups strong because its a good movie it can open to 650k and finish with 5.0m

 Presale or walk-ups, rain or Sun will distort everything! More rain = more tickets sales, all we need a bit of rain over weekend and everything is safe.

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On 6/29/2022 at 11:21 AM, charlie Jatinder said:

How will JWD compare.

 

 

0.141x of JW D T-1 (0.16M€/14.250 Adm. OD)

 

Minion 2 (June 30th) Ba-Wü OD Seat Report T-0

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 211 1565 47357 3,30%

 

Total Seats Sold Last Day: 875

 

Comp

0.347x of Batman T-0 (0.18M€/17.000 Adm. OD)

0.120x of DS 2 T-0 (0.21M€/19.250 Adm. OD)

0.217x of Top Gun T-0 (0.23M€/22.500 Adm. OW)

JW D missed

 

2.397x of Lightyear T-0 (1.10M€/132.250 Adm. OW)

 

Good day in comp to lightyear, but I dont know, these comps seem really low for a kid movie.

 

Thor Love & Thunder (July 6th) Ba-Wü Preview Seat Report T-6

 

   Sellouts Shows Seats Sold Total Seats % Sold
Total 0 178 3204 36087 8,88%

 

Total Seats Sold Last Day: 559

 

Comp

1.678x of The Batman T-6 (0.86M€/82.500 Adm. OD)

0.457x of DS2 T-6 (0.78M€/73.500 Adm. OD)

1.143x of Top Gun T-6 (0.97M€/95.000 Adm. OD)

1.674x of JW: D T-6 (1.92M€/168.500 Adm. OD)

 

Another huge day for Thor, seems like 80 k is the floor for OD.

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