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15 hours ago, Taruseth said:

EDIT:  I just realised that the last three posts were mine, I am talking with myself, lol.

I thought you wanted to bring the data together to help to see in a fast way the differences.

If the quote with the older data would be in a spoiler tag (as those data is rather long) I think a few might even find thos helpful

 

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4 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Nothing wrong with talking to yourself, just with no one talking to you :D

 

2nd Trend:

 

TLK 550k (-13%) Close to 3,1M

H&S 475k

Leberkäsjunkie 190k

Pets2 110k (-18%)

Benjamin Blümchen 90k

SM:FFH 70k (-36%)

Yesterday 52,5k (-17%)

Die Drei !!! 45k (-22%)

Annabelle 3 30k (-14%)

Dolor y gloria 25k (-17%/-29%)

I guess I just like myself talking a little too much.... Joking, but I really talk too much.

 

TLK is crazy. So the local cinema probably over performed relatively speaking for H&S. Also TLK getting a 550k 3rd weekend would be quite nice and that actually would be the highest 3rd weekend since The Last Jedi... rather sad to be honest.

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H&S:

Thursday: 481 -> 115k

Friday: 585 -> 125k? (Corrected the number of ticket sold, now it looks more logical)

 

Saturday:

2D 16:30: 101 / 572 (13:45: 42)

2D 19:45: 260 / 572 (13:45: 164)

2D 19:45: 77 / 280 (13:45: 34)

2D 22:30: 139 / 425 (13:45: 50)

 

Total: 577 / 1849 (13:45: 290) + 98.97%

Comp to yesterday -1.37%. So probably a mother 125k day or so.

 

 

TLK:

Wednesday: 210k

Thursday: 175k

Friday: 217k?

Saturday: 535 -> 240k?

Sunday:  663 -> 290k?

Monday: 125k?

Tuesday: 125k?

Wednesday: 104k?

Thursday: 171 -> 90k

Friday: ~275 -> 120k?

Saturday: 450 -> 190k?

Sunday: 449 -> 230k?

Monday: 258 -> 135k?

Tuesday: 284 -> 135k?

Wednesday: 334 -> 130k?

Thursday: 385 -> 110k

Friday: ~478 -> 130k?

Saturday: 170k (estimate)

Sunday: 140k (estimate) => 550k weekend and a 3066k total

 

The one with question marks are a mixture of estimates after Saturday, local performance and what is needed to reach the weekend factoring in weather too. This weekend won't perform like last as in this won't have a Saturday jump like last weekend did.

Really faszinating is the thing though that TLK has been on an upward trend since Monday. Let's see if it will be able to continue it today and get too 500, don't think it will quiet get that far.

 

Saturday:

3D 17:10: 64 / 322 (13:45: 15)

3D 20:20: 119 / 425 (13:45: 40)

3D 22:50: 24 / 170 (13:45: 0)

 

2D 17:30: 64 / 425 (13:45: 11) Yeah it ended at the same number as the 3D one

2D 19:30: 123 / 425 (13:45: 41)

2D 22:10: 51 / 156 (13:45: 12)

 

Total: 445 / 1923 (13:45: 119) +273.95%

Comp to yesterday -6.9% don't think this is what happened everywhere else. Think overall it had a healthy increase partly driven by Midday showings I guess.

 

 

IT2 is on sale, might take a quick look into it tomorrow evening, will do the same for TS4 if there are any showings available already and might, take a quick look into Hollywood too. Won't update IT till probably the Sunday before release after that though. Same goes for TS4 and Hollywood.

 

550k might make 4.5M possible. Now we need it to have an insane day today and a great day tomorrow. So it ends up above 600k, so basically flat and then a small drop next weekend and we might be talking about 5M but for now 4.5M would be possible. Which would put it at B&tB from the 5-day and way above from the 4-day. (Yeah I sometimes tend to be rather optimistic).

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3rd trend has the top two a little lower:
 

#1: Lion King: 525k

#2: Hobbs & Shaw: 450k incl. previews

#3: Leberkäsjunkie: 210k

#4: Pets 2: 110k

#5: Benjamin Blümchen: 90k

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Posted (edited)

Sunday:

H&S:

2D OV: 27 / 170 (11:45: 19)

 

2D: 185 / 572 (11:45: 83)

2D: 286 / 572 (11:45: 82)

 

Total: 498 / 1314 (11:45: 184)+170.7%

 

->-13.7% comp to yesterday

 

I think this will end up below 500k, probably a little bit above 450k but don't see it going higher.

 

TLK

3D 17:10: 72 / 322 (11:45: 17)

3D 20:20: 69 / 425 (11:45: 24)

 

2D 17:30: 133 / 425 (11:45: 22)

2D 19:30: 119 / 425 (11:45: 25)

 

Total: 393 / 1597 (11:45: 88) +346.6%

-> -11.7% comp to yesterday

 

Think this will end up above 500k, hoping for something above the trend.

 

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Posted (edited)

Monday morning estimate (source: insidekino):

TLK: 565k (Total 3090k)

H&S: 485k

Leberkäsjunkie: 220k

Pets 2: 115k (Total 1875k)

Benjamin Blümchen: 92.5k

Spidey: 70k (Total 1550k)

Yesterday: 55k

TKKG: 45k

 

Apparently this is the third best weekend this year (behind the Weekend that Endgame opened and the first weekend this year (which had its highest opener at #9 but 8 holdovers above 100k).

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Posted (edited)

Monday

H&S:

2D: 65 / 572 (11:45: 4)

2D: 127 / 572 (11:45: 34)

 

Total: 192 / 1314 (11:45: 38) +405.3%

-> comp to yesterday -61.4%

 

TLK

3D 17:10: 22 / 322 (11:45: 0)

3D 20:20: 73 / 425 (11:45: 12)

 

2D 17:30: 49 / 425 (11:45: 18)

2D 19:30: 78 / 425 (11:45: 16)

 

Total: 222 / 1597 (11:45: 46) +382.6%

 

-> comp to yesterday -43.5%

14% below last Monday.

 

The following is in spoiler tag because it's pure speculation and a rough guide what could happen if those nice weekend holds continue next weekend.

Spoiler

Also 565k weekend, so it's about 1.02M ahead of B&tB at the same time, I think if it has nice weekdays and the next weekend has meh weather again so another good hold (400k (-29.2%) weekend or so) it would be at 3.75M already (3.09M+0.26M+0.4M) and that, I'd say would mean a total approaching 4.75M would be possible. For it to beat Endgame next weekend should be 500k and the weekdays more like 300k (-> 3.9M after next weekend, than it could add 1.25M or so and would end up barely above Endgame).

If Monday is anything to go by it at least should have 200k over the weekdays.

 

Though to be honest of a 931k weekend I expected it to end around 3.8M and it has a chance being there after a 400k 4th weekend.

the cinemas need movies performing well

 

 

 

I didn't really forget to count It 2, it is just so far out that it hasn't sold anything locally so I didn't bother checking any further. TS4 apparently has no preview showings up as of yet. And I was to lazy to count Hollwood, which looks fairly average (like 300k average or so).

 

Also, when one is looking at the increases of the total number after each Sunday:

1st Sunday: 1131k (only 5 days)

2nd Sunday: 2116k (+985k)

3rd Sunday:  3090k (+974k) so due to the higher weekdays it barely dropped.

4th Sunday: 3900k (+810k) know this is rather optimistic but would keep those nice numbers up.

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B&tB (total) vs TLK (total):

Spoiler

 

1st Wend: 864k (864k) vs 922k (1131k) -> +58k (+267k)

1st Wdays: 227k (1091k) vs 354k (1485k) -> +127k (+394k) (Summer for TLK)

2nd Wend: 503k (1594k) vs 631k (2116k) -> +128k (+522k)

2nd Wdays: 141k (1735k) vs 418k (2534k) -> +259k (+781k) (Summer for TLK)

3rd Wend: 309k (2044k) vs 565k (3098k)* -> +256k (+1054k)

3rd Wdays: 112k (2156k) vs 275k (3373k) -> +163k (+1217k)

4th Wend: 216k (2372k) vs 400k (3773k) -> +184k (+1401k) (TLK would become biggest LA remake)

4th Wdays: 159k (2531k) vs 175k (3948k) -> +16k (+1417k) (Easter holidays for B&tB)

5th Wend: 216k (2747k) vs 225k (4173k) -> +9k (+1426k) (Harsh drop because TS4 for TLK)

5th Wdays: 160k (2907k) vs 75k (4248k) -> -85k (+1341k) (summer holdiays over for TLK)

6th Wend: 153k (3060k) vs 150k (4398k) -> -3k (+1338k)

6th Wdays: 29k (3089k) vs 30k (4428k) -> +1k (+1339k) (summer holdiays over for TLK)

7th Wend: 72k (3161k) vs 75k (4503k) -> +3k (+1342k)

7th Wdays: 42k (3203k) vs 15k (4518k) -> -27k (+1315k) (1st May for B&tB)

8th Wend: 47k (3250k) 

8th Wdays: 14k (3264k)

9th Wend: 32k (3296k)

9th Wdays: 8k (3304k)

10th Wend: 20k (3324k)

10th Wdays: 5k (3329k)

B&tB added 101k after that.

 

If it would follow that it could end up around 4.75M which sounds a little too optimistic. But I'd say 4.25M should be highly likely now (like 98%) and 4.5M are rather likely too (though it could still miss that).

TLK's hold this week (weekdays and weekend) and next week against TS4 should tell us a little more because if they continue to be as good as this hold. Than it would be past 4.25M after the weekend TS4 opens by quite a margin.

 

*Because of rounding the increase is just 564k despite the weekend being 564.8k which would be rounded up to 565k

 

Weekdays were 417891! that is up 18.1% compared to the first weekdays.

Also that means that TLK has the best second week this year about 15k above the second week of Endgame and will have the best 3rd week too because the weekend alone is 51k over the 3rd week of Endgame. I think it should get the fourth week just as easily considering the highest right now is 348k, actually TLKs weekend should be higher than that number again, same for the 5th were the highest is 249k, even here a higher weekend theoretically is possible.

 

This is holding way better than I anticipated. It's 3rd weekend multi is actually 3.36x and with that on par with Aladdin's 3rd weekend multi of 3.36x. Shows the magic of a Wednesday start and the summer holidays (especially the later). Though 1st-3rd weekend drop for TLK with 38.7% isn't much worse than Aladdins 32.9%. But TLK obviously won't be able to follow Aladdin after this considering it went up by 1% on its 5th weekend.

 

Today's numbers (maybe):

Tuesday

H&S:

2D 16:30: 65 / 526* (11:45: 17)

2D 19:45: 156 / 526 (11:45: 50)

2D 22:30: 28 / 425 (11:45: 0)

Total: 249 / 1477 (11:45: 67) +271.6%

-> comp to yesterday +29.7%

Nice increase, probably won't be matched overall.

 

*adjusted total seat count down from 572 as a block in the back of 46 seats is sold out but that isn't reflected in the general sales for the showing so they probably aren't up for sale for whatever reason

 

TLK

3D 17:10: 29 / 322 (11:45: 0)

3D 20:20: 74 / 425 (11:45: 19)

3D 22:50: 4 / 170 (11:45: 2)

 

2D 17:30: 39 / 425 (11:45: 4)

2D 19:30: 77 / 425 (11:45: 18)

2D 22:10: 16 / 156 (11:45: 4)

 

Total: 239 / 1923 (11:45: 47) +408.5%

 

-> comp to yesterday +7.7%

15.8% below last Tuesday.

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Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

The Lion King

564.798

768

735

3.098.454

29.468.413

-10

3

2

Fast & Furious - Hobbs & Shaw

491.783

621

792

491.783

4.756.375

-

1

3

Leberkäsjunkie

203.207

269

755

222.687

1.831.918

-

1

4

Pets 2

116.882

716

163

1.881.465

14.667.929

-13

6

5

Benjamin Blümchen

73.580

508

145

94.177

642.495

-

1

6

Spider-Man - Far From Home

70.067

510

137

1.556.891

15.383.518

-36

5

7

Yesterday

57.603

526

110

491.680

4.153.068

-8

4

8

Die drei !!!

45.974

479

96

147.509

981.723

-20

2

9

Annabelle 3

29.251

380

77

463.356

4.087.463

-17

5

10

Dolor y gloria

28.822

104

277

84.887

725.404

-4

2

11

Aladdin

19.136

295

65

1.881.438

17.053.713

-23

11

12

Five Feet Apart

18.256

287

64

571.463

4.505.354

-20

7

13

Bohemian Rhapsody

12.945

110

118

3.622.491

33.294.661

+6

40

14

Der Junge muss an die frische Luft

11.446

71

161

3.686.997

30.570.650

-44

32

15

Rocketman

11.200

165

68

632.774

5.690.113

+7

10

16

Anna

10.631

231

46

85.631

690.330

-39

3

17

La Chute del'Empire américain

9.793

79

124

16.450

118.995

-

1

18

A Star Is Born

8.452

-

-

1.109.819

9.763.551

-

44

19

John Wick 3

7.522

189

40

1.162.526

10.835.961

-16

11

20

25km/h

6.898

34

203

1.030.429

8.312.176

-21

40

Wonderful weekend with perfect holds AND good openers! Lion King passed 3mil total (in Austria already >500k), Leberkäsjunkie continues the upwards trend for the franchise and Hobbs&Shaw did good, too.

Next weekend: No openers worth mentioning.

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35 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

 

 

 

title

 

admissions

 

th.

 

PTA

 

total adm.

 

total €

 

drop

 

week

 

1

 

The Lion King

 

564.798

 

768

 

735

 

3.098.454

 

29.468.413

 

-10

 

 

3

 

2

 

Fast & Furious - Hobbs & Shaw

 

491.783

 

621

 

792

 

491.783

 

4.756.375

 

-

 

1

 

3

 

Leberkäsjunkie

 

203.207

 

269

 

755

 

222.687

 

1.831.918

 

-

 

1

 

4

 

Pets 2

 

116.882

 

716

 

163

 

1.881.465

 

14.667.929

 

-13

 

 

6

 

5

 

Benjamin Blümchen

 

73.580

 

508

 

145

 

94.177

 

642.495

 

-

 

1

 

6

 

Spider-Man - Far From Home

 

70.067

 

510

 

137

 

1.556.891

 

15.383.518

 

-36

 

 

5

 

7

 

Yesterday

 

57.603

 

526

 

110

 

491.680

 

4.153.068

 

-8

 

 

4

 

8

 

Die drei !!!

 

45.974

 

479

 

96

 

147.509

 

981.723

 

-20

 

 

2

 

9

 

Annabelle 3

 

29.251

 

380

 

77

 

463.356

 

4.087.463

 

-17

 

 

5

 

10

 

Dolor y gloria

 

28.822

 

104

 

277

 

84.887

 

725.404

 

-4

 

 

2

 

11

 

Aladdin

 

19.136

 

295

 

65

 

1.881.438

 

17.053.713

 

-23

 

 

11

 

12

 

Five Feet Apart

 

18.256

 

287

 

64

 

571.463

 

4.505.354

 

-20

 

 

7

 

13

 

Bohemian Rhapsody

 

12.945

 

110

 

118

 

3.622.491

 

33.294.661

 

+6

 

 

40

 

14

 

Der Junge muss an die frische Luft

 

11.446

 

71

 

161

 

3.686.997

 

30.570.650

 

-44

 

 

32

 

15

 

Rocketman

 

11.200

 

165

 

68

 

632.774

 

5.690.113

 

+7

 

 

10

 

16

 

Anna

 

10.631

 

231

 

46

 

85.631

 

690.330

 

-39

 

 

3

 

17

 

La Chute del'Empire américain

 

9.793

 

79

 

124

 

16.450

 

118.995

 

-

 

1

 

18

 

A Star Is Born

 

8.452

 

-

 

-

 

1.109.819

 

9.763.551

 

-

 

44

 

19

 

John Wick 3

 

7.522

 

189

 

40

 

1.162.526

 

10.835.961

 

-16

 

 

11

 

20

 

25km/h

 

6.898

 

34

 

203

 

1.030.429

 

8.312.176

 

-21

 

 

40

 

Wonderful weekend with perfect holds AND good openers! Lion King passed 3mil total (in Austria already >500k), Leberkäsjunkie continues the upwards trend for the franchise and Hobbs&Shaw did good, too.

Next weekend: No openers worth mentioning.

 

 

Really impressive for TLK is also that only 4 holds have been better while 10 have been worse this weekend.

 

Next weekend should still be okay overall though as TLK will hold nicely.

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Bohemian Rhapsody has been increasing each week since it first re-release.

 

Clearly there are more people want to see that movies still  

No wonder it is getting a re-release in my country too starting next week  

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5 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

Bohemian Rhapsody has been increasing each week since it first re-release.

 

Clearly there are more people want to see that movies still  

No wonder it is getting a re-release in my country too starting next week  

That isn't a normal re-release but a release in open-air theatres.

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Posted (edited)

Wednesday:

H&S:

16:30: 34 / 526

19:45: 114 / 526

Total: 148 / 1052

-40.6% comp to yesterday

 

TLK:

3D 17:10: 36 / 322

3D 20:20: 67 / 425

 

2D 17:30: 54 / 425

2D 19:30: 49 / 170

 

Total: 206 / 1342

-13.8% comp to yesterday

 

Puuh, weather is better than I thought might hurt the weekend and might have hurt the weekdays too, wouldn't bet on 300k anymore, but still think it can get to 275k over the weekdays. Thinking H&S might have had weekdays below 200k, probably around 185-195k. Don't really know as I don't have any comps apart from the really weird TLK comps and a generell feeling and comps to weekends which perform differently.

On the last weekend the Cinestar had 1701 tickets in the evening shows so 0.3% off the total number for the weekend I guess with midday and morning showings it probably was around 3000 tickets or so which would be roughly a 0.53% share (compared to the 0.14% share the average has). Really want to know what the movie theatres have as a share of the box office. 

For H&S the weekend evening showings were 2141 tickets so overall maybe 3000 (might be a little higher) ticket which would be a 0.61% share (compared to 0.13% for the average theatre).

 

Weekend estimates based on weekdays:

TLK: 375k

H&S: 275k

No idea about the rest. The new movie should open outside of the top 5 might actually open at 7-10.

 

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Good news from Austria - July was stronger than the last 6 Julys; even if it was a 5-weekend-July those are really good numbers, led by LionKing (which should continue strong into August) and followed by Pets2 and Spidey.

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Hi,

 

H&S:

2D 16:20: 41 / 572 (13:15: 13)

2D 19:45: 174 / 572 (13:15: 71)

2D 22:15: 48 / 425 (13:15: 10)

 

Total: 263 / 1569 (13:15: 94)

comp to yesterday +77.7%

comp to last week -45.3%

 

TLK

3D 17:30: 17 / 322 (13:15: 0)

3D 20:20: 65 / 322 (13:15: 11)

3D 22:15: 14 / 170 (13:15: 9)

 

2D 17:00: 26 / 425 (13:15: 9)

2D 19:15: 77 / 425 (13:15: 16)

2D 22:30: 11 / 156 (13:15: 0)

 

Total: 210 / 1820 (13:15: 36)

comp to yesterday +1.9%

comp to last week -46.5% (comp to two weeks ago +22.8%)

 

Apparently in other cinemas Disney keeps TLK in 3D on the bigger screen, here it's the other way around and the 2d version gets the bigger screen, despite the numbers not being to different 3D share between 40 and 50%.

 

Based on the weather I could TLK see doing something like 375k this weekend and then another 350-375k next weekend as this looks to be quite nice while the next probably won't be that nice. But TLK won't improve as TS4 and Hollywood will open though if TLK would actually manage too hold well this weekend and then doesn't lose too many screens next weekend (honestly they shouldn't make TLK loose screens considering it's the biggest movie right now) it might have a chance at making it a three-way fight for the top next weekend (to be honest think all 3 movies might head towards 350-400k. Feel like I could see the weekend being TLK, Holly and TS4 in #3, just for the fun of being a 1B movie opening in #3 place here while a movie that was said to have opened really disappointingly manages to fend it off and keeps the #1 position. Though to be fair TLK should drop to #3 next weekend.

Also with TLK repeating at #1 this weekend (quite likely) that would mean Disney has 15 out of 31 weekends the year on top.

 

 

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Im excited to see how Hollywood does. Tarantino has quite a fanbase here and Django Unchained was a huge hit in Germany (though Hateful Eight less so).

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3 hours ago, Brainbug said:

Im excited to see how Hollywood does. Tarantino has quite a fanbase here and Django Unchained was a huge hit in Germany (though Hateful Eight less so).

I wonder how much of Django's success had to do with Christoph Waltz. He came off his Oscar for Inglourious Basterds and of course won another one for Django. He probably added more interest than some people think.

 

Hollywood should be fine mostly because of Leonardo DiCaprio. Wolf of Wall Street and The Revenant did really well here, so the guy is clearly a big draw.

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First estimates from insidekino.de :

#1: LionKing - 375k (-34%)

#2: H&S - 240k (-51%)

#3: Leberkäs - 150k (-26%)

#4: Pets2 - 95k (-19%)

 

Impressed by Pets2 which - after a really disappointing opening - found its stride and stands its ground against the Lion King!

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1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:

First estimates from insidekino.de :

#1: LionKing - 375k (-34%)

#2: H&S - 240k (-51%)

#3: Leberkäs - 150k (-26%)

#4: Pets2 - 95k (-19%)

 

Impressed by Pets2 which - after a really disappointing opening - found its stride and stands its ground against the Lion King!

So TLK will also have the best 4th week (right now How to train your dragon with 348k and the best weekend currently is Endgame with 213k so TLK would be 75% above after opening 44.9% below Endgame.

Thursday actuals:

TLK: 85k (€750k ≈ $890k)

H&S: 55k (€480k ≈ 570k)

Leberkäs: 31k (€250k ≈ 280k)

Pets 2: 21k (€165k ≈ 185k) (Total 2M)

Spidey: 11k (€100k ≈ $112k)

BTS: 6.5k (€80k ≈ $90k)

 

IM for TLK; Thursday to weekend:

1st: 5.26x

2nd: 7.01x

3rd: 4.91x

4th: 4.41x (I really hope this ends up higher)

 

It looks like the weekdays were 335k for TLK. So it would be at 3.8M after the weekend.

That would make it the highest grossing LA movie.

Now that would change too:

B&tB (total) vs TLK (total)

1st Wend: 864k (864k) vs 922k (1131k) -> +58k (+267k)

1st Wdays: 227k (1091k) vs 354k (1485k) -> +127k (+394k) 

2nd Wend: 503k (1594k) vs 631k (2116k) -> +128k (+522k)

2nd Wdays: 141k (1735k) vs 418k (2516k) -> +277k (+781k) 

3rd Wend: 309k (2044k) vs 565k (3098k) -> +256k (+1054k)

3rd Wdays: 112k (2156k) vs 335k (3433k) -> +223k (+1277k)

4th Wend: 216k (2372k) vs 375k (3808k) -> +59k (+1436k) 

4th Wdays: 159k (2531k) vs 225k (4033k) -> +66k (+1502k)

5th Wend: 216k (2747k) vs 300k (4333k) -> +84k (+1586k)

5th Wdays: 160k (2907k) 

6th Wend: 153k (3060k)

6th Wdays: 29k (3089k)

7th Wend: 72k (3161k)

7th Wdays: 42k (3203k)

8th Wend: 47k (3250k)

8th Wdays: 14k (3264k)

9th Wend: 32k (3296k)

9th Wdays: 8k (3304k)

10th Wend: 20k (3324k)

10th Wdays: 5k (3329k)

B&tB added 101k after that.

 

IF TLK follows that it should end up with 4.95M or so.

Okay, if this weekend comes in a little higher than we might actually be looking at TLK having an outside chance to beat Endgame. Though to be fair its facing TS4 and Hollywood next weekend so it also could drop pretty brutally and after this weekend (375k) it would be 793k behind Endgame so it would need to do quite a lot of catching up.

 

 

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