BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[IndustriousAngel]

Austria adores lowbrow comedies, the lower the better.

[Aristis]

Seems like Germany has pretty much the worst result for JL... 600-700k admissions, $7,5M to $8,5M - down 55-60% from BvS.

 

But its obvious Germany prefers Marvel, Germany loves Comedy.

[IndustriousAngel]

yep but JL coming in lower than Wonder Woman, what a revolting development this is ...

[miketheavenger]

21 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

yep but JL coming in lower than Wonder Woman, what a revolting development this is ...

It's gonna come in under Wonder Woman in most territories, though, so this isn't an outlier.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Fack Ju Göhte 3	357.068	760	470	5.223.065	45.673.660	-41	4
2	Justice League	214.491	525	409	240.038	2.608.207	-	1
3	Murder on the Orient Express	208.538	469	445	533.235	4.762.640	-13	2
4	Bad Moms 2	151.009	552	274	456.408	3.918.576	-22	2
5	Thor 3	147.042	618	238	1.227.729	13.563.849	-42	3
6	Happy Death Day	115.092	334	345	132.968	1.108.029	-	1
7	Hexe Lilli rettet Weihnachten	59.909	479	125	139.198	914.797	-15	2
8	Jigsaw	30.105	337	89	453.561	4.039.425	-48	4
9	Cars 3	24.892	463	54	1.278.410	9.609.551	-36	8
10	Der kleine Vampir	20.988	347	60	208.700	1.383.055	-29	4
11	The Big Sick	18.773	107	175	34.111	234.150	-	1
12	The Last Warrior	15.318	86	178	15.318	158.011	-	1
13	Simpel	14.930	179	83	62.712	480.866	-40	2
14	Suburbicon	11.799	160	74	53.470	409.925	-47	2
15	Barbie - Dolphin Magic	11.669	308	38	73.194	447.734	-57	3
16	The Snowman	11.468	193	59	438.955	3.829.265	-57	5
17	Fikkefuchs	11.147	70	159	13.836	114.192	-	1
18	Blade Runner 2049	11.085	159	70	930.673	10.376.850	-44	7
19	The Square	9.170	94	98	154.491	1.353.568	-32	5
20	It	9.140	190	48	3.160.357	29.864.197	-60	8

 

Not a bad weekend overall but the openers were rather disappointing; neither did Justice League open to #1 (in fact, it came in even lower than Wonder Woman) nor did Happy Death Day make the top 5. And considering the good reviews, The Big Sick's PTA is not too good either. The silver lining are the holdovers; Fack Ju Goehte 3 has already topped 5mil total (I can't believe they'll stay true to their word that three are enough … this is like printing money) and last week's openers Orient Express nad Bad Moms 2 had astonishing holds. With Thor 3 it's still not sure if it will overtake Thor 2 but it does look very promising by now, Justice League didn't put much of a dent in its numbers.

Next weekend: Domestic Thriller Aus dem Nichts, history thriller Detroit, romcom Home Again and finally, Paddington 2 - no blockbusters, but a lot of attractive releases so expect some movement in the Top10 - Paddington has a good chance at winning the weekend! (The first one reached 2mil total). It will be fun to bet how many releases will generate >100k admissions.

[el sid]

Some Thursday estimates from insidekino.de/forum:

New releases:

Paddington 2: 2.5k evening only so no indication at all, the film often got the big cinema halls in the afternoon but the smaller ones in the evening (released in 713 theaters, excellent reviews - also some 10/10 -, the first Paddington had 2.051.737 total admissions in Germany)
Aus dem Nichts: 6.5k (a German/French thriller-drama, 245 theaters, ok, good and very good reviews)
Home Again: 2.5k (215, mixed reviews between 2 and 7/10)
Detroit: under 1k (165, good and very reviews)
Battle of the Sexes: 1k (100, overall good reviews)

The holdovers:

Justice League: 11.5k (actuals last Thursday 35k) - the Thursday drop looks of course worse than the whole weekend drop will be, still that's a pretty harsh drop
FJG 3: 12.5k (30k)
Murder on the Orient Express: 16.5k (23k) – again a good hold; the reservations in ‚my‘ theaters looked pretty identical to last weeks reservations too
Bad Moms 2: 14k (17.5k) - nice
Thor 3: 7.5k (17k) - this movie was very underestimated last week maybe today it's the same
Happy Deathday: 3.5k (12k)
The Big Sick: 1k (2k)

So with the exceptions of two holdovers (and Paddington 2 where no numbers for the whole day are available) not much to cheer about if these numbers hold.

[Giesi]

Has there already been released some information about TLJ‘s presales? 

[IndustriousAngel]

horrible Thursday, I'd thought with all the attractiver openers we might counter the usual drops but seemingly not.

[George Parr]

First trend is up:

 

#1 Paddington 2 300k

#2 FjG3 200k (-44%)

#3 Murder on the Orient Express 160k (-23%)

#4 Justive League 140k (-35% / -42% with previews)

#5 Bad Moms 2 90k (-40%)

#6 Aus dem Nichts / Thor 3 / Happy Death Day 70k

[IndustriousAngel]

well, that's only 4 movies with >100k admissions when I thought we had a shot at 7 - ok for Paddington and again a superb holf for Murder!

[el sid]

And some Thursday actuals (Blickpunkt:Film):

The new releases:

Paddington 2: 13k (and 107k US$)
Aus dem Nichts: 9k
Home Again: 2k
Detroit: 1k
Battle of the Sexes: 1k

The holdovers:

FJG3: 18.5k (actuals last Thursday 30k)
MOTOE: 18k (23k) - including Sunday 750k so it will reach 1M admissions with ease; hard to say where it will finish because with theses hold it will as well benefit from the Christmas business
JL: 16.5k (35k) – underestimated yesterday
Bad Moms 2: 11.5k (17.5k)

Edited November 24, 2017 by el sid

[Aristis]

That hold for JL would better than I thought! Would be a better 2nd WE hold and WE than WW had (112k, -48%) but that didn't do great either (and the WE after movies had great holds...). Would be OK, hope that holds...

 

Paddington OW is at least higher than the first one, hope WOM will be strong for this one.

[IndustriousAngel]

Saturday updates, JL down, BadMoms up (maybe can reach 100k after all)

[Krissykins]

That looks like a good weekend good for Justice League. 

[el sid]

The third trend with only little changes:

#1 Paddington2 300k
#2 FJG3 200k
#3 Murder on the Orient Express 165k
#4 Justice League 120k
#5 Bad Moms2 100k
#6 Happy Deathday 80k - not a bad hold either -> -30% counted without last weeks previews
#7 Thor3 75k
#8 Aus dem Nichts 75k
#9 Home Again 47.5k
#10 Hexe Lilli 40k

[IndustriousAngel]

Preliminary numbers show that BadMoms2 did indeed count >100k admissions this weekend; FJG3 also went up from estimates.

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Paddington 2	235.859	715	330	294.211	2.043.265	-	1
2	Fack Ju Göhte 3	210.325	728	289	5.514.304	48.168.248	-41	5
3	Murder on the Orient Express	166.527	573	291	764.129	6.779.486	-20	3
4	Justice League	126.219	525	240	423.004	4.491.959	-41	2
5	Bad Moms 2	103.793	572	181	606.874	5.182.871	-31	3
6	Happy Death Day	77.476	326	238	239.393	1.995.042	-33	2
7	Aus dem Nichts	74.515	245	304	77.785	685.476	-	1
8	Thor 3	73.545	438	168	1.340.278	14.753.909	-50	4
9	Hexe Lilli rettet Weihnachten	38.295	533	72	190.860	1.245.088	-36	3
10	Home Again	17.021	217	78	46.695	330.606	-	1
11	Cars 3	14.823	356	42	1.296.489	9.734.929	-40	9
12	Jigsaw	13.542	298	45	472.922	4.210.264	-55	5
13	Der kleine Vampir	12.704	339	37	225.817	1.489.482	-39	5
14	Kardesim Benim 2	12.182	56	218	12.182	113.011	-	1
15	The Big Sick	11.088	111	100	52.678	376.308	-41	2
16	Barbie - Dolphin Magic	7.512	279	27	81.704	500.702	-36	4
17	Simpel	7.340	158	46	76.716	587.371	51	3
18	Detroit	7.315	164	45	17.706	120.027	-	1
19	Fikkefuchs	6.587	67	98	25.127	201.279	-41	2
20	Battle of the Sexes	6.101	100	61	19.493	99.247	-	1

 

This was not a good weekend … the openers rather disappointing and no good holds either. Let's see if Paddington can reach 2mil total, with family stuff it's always about the legs. Btw, in Austria Bad Moms 2 won the weekend against Paddington … can't argue about tastes.

 

Next weekend: Some new competition for many demos - Coco for families, Flatliners for the Horror/Thriller audience, Girls Trip for the comedy crowd, and Brimstone for no definite audience at all (Westerns have a tough time in the german-speaking markets). Coco should come in higher than Paddington this week and maybe Flatliners can jump the 100k mark, too - don't know about Girls Trip, with Bad Moms 2 obviously enjoying good WOM it might see some difficulties.

[Quigley]

Can someone post a yearly admissions chart for 2017? Thanks.

[Aristis]

46 minutes ago, Quigley said:

Can someone post a yearly admissions chart for 2017? Thanks.

Nr.	Admissions	€							Opening Week
1	5.514.304	48.168.248				Fack Ju Göhte 3			2.895.338
2	4.622.589	37.817.406				DM3			1.245.812
3	3.446.682	30.761.478				FSOG2			1.551.324
4	3.422.393	32.823.962				BatB			1.090.876
5	3.240.051	30.287.260				FF8			1.616.152
6	3.166.092	29.916.450				It			1.600.951
7	2.689.386	27.835.663				POTC5			800.707
8	2.513.217	27.397.279				GOTG2			1.069.933
9	1.973.221	16.281.962				Baywatch			701.444
10	1.971.330	14.544.594				The Boss Baby			372.834

 

For all 100k+ movies:

http://www.insidekino.de/DJahr/D2017.htm

Edited November 30, 2017 by Aristis

[Giesi]

I‘m having high hopes for TLJ, don‘t fail me Germany.