BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[el sid]

The Christmas markets are the only thing that comes to my mind what else people could do. Weather is not to blame: At least were I live the sunshine duration during the week was maybe 15 minutes.

Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt: Film):

The new releases:

Mortal Engines (released in 500 theaters): 15k
Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse (515) 7k - let's see, WOM will decide and so far it's (very) good; in mathäser e.g. Spider-Man gets only the smallest cinema halls in the evening, as it happens often here they treat it as if it would only be a film for small kids (e.g. The Jungle Book finally was shown in the biggest auditorium instead the smallest as first planned)
Gegen den Strom (67): 1.5k

The holdovers (not too bad overall):

The Grinch: 17k (actuals last Thursday 26k)
100 Dinge: 17k (23k)
Fantastic Beasts 2: 16.5k (27k)
BR: 8.5k

 

Edited December 14, 2018 by el sid

[miketheavenger]

2nd trend:

 

#1: The Grinch: 300k

#2: FB2/100 Dinge: 160k

#3: Mortal Engines: 100k (ouch)

#4: Bohemian Rhapsody: 75k

#5: Tabaluga: 70k

#6: Spider-Verse: 60k (lol)

 

So the new openers are basically DOA.

[George Parr]

Nice for the holdovers, absolutely awful for the starters...

[IndustriousAngel]

most releases went a bit down with latest estimates but basically no changes

[Brainbug]

2018 keeps on sucking.

 

On the other hand, that only means 2019 will look so much better compared to this year

[miketheavenger]

30 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

2018 keeps on sucking.

 

On the other hand, that only means 2019 will look so much better compared to this year

Hopefully, but it's hard to be optimistic right now. There's no Football tournament next year, but we might get another really hot summer. But if that becomes more normal it might not affect cinemas as much anymore.

[Aristis]

Monday numbers:

 

Grinch 265k (-27%) 1,155M

FB2 160k (-40%) 3,11M (FB1 5th WE: 157k (-41%) 2,77M)

100 Dinge 140k (-29%)

ME 107,5k

BR 75k (-35%) 2,11M

Spider-Man 67,5k

[terrestrial]

http://www.insidekino.com/DTop10/18/DTop18DEZ13.htm

 

#.	adm weekend	%	Kinos	Schnitt	adm till Sunday	week	Titel (Verleih)	Boxoffice in € weekend	Boxoffice in € till Sunday		maybe adm	RT	IMDB
1	267.449	-26	719	372	1.157.958	3	Der Grinch (U)	2.097.193	9.349.363		2.500	57	6,4
2	161.075	-39	696	231	3.113.557	5	FB 2 (WB)	1.634.095	31.594.696		3.500	38	6,9
3	141.756	-29	627	226	444.966	2	100 Dinge (WB)	1.237.303	3.795.901		800	-	6,8
4	107.810	---	493	219	108.260	1	Mortal Engines - Krieg der Städte (U)	1.232.665	1.237.060		300	27	6,5
5	76.078	-35	748	102	2.112.693	7	Bohemian Rhapsody (FOX)	713.402	19.531.586		2.300	62	8,3
6	67.761	---	516	131	72.438	1	Spider-Man - A New Universe (COL)	596.641	619.586		250	97	8,8
7	56.124	-44	603	93	198.181	2	Tabaluga (COL)	380.097	1.329.717		500	-	6,8
8	39.827	-34	325	123	126.877	2	Unknown User - Dark Web (U)	358.382	1.071.166		200	57	5,8
-	37.634	---	211	178	37.634	1	MET: La Traviata (CON)	1.102.646	1.102.646		38	-	-
9	35.134	-32	556	63	937.438	7	Nutcracker & he 4 Realms (BV)	267.737	7.957.886		1.000	34	5,6
10	23.685	-20	118	201	75.324	2	Astrid (DCM)	201.917	618.435		150	96	7,4
11	21.988	-47	309	71	84.604	2	Widows (FOX)	206.818	742.339		150	90	7,4
12	20.864	-38	443	47	787.122	7	25 km/h (COL)	168.960	6.482.166		850	-	7,3
13	16.107	-34	371	43	994.723	9	Der Vorname (NCO)	122.583	8.437.162		1.025	-	7,5
14	15.727	-30	434	36	148.022	6	Elliot, das kleinste Rentier (SPL)	95.593	930.720		200	26	5,3
15	13.987	---	90	155	18.422	1	Woman at War (PAN)	112.396	136.159		75	85	7,6
16	10.377	-44	73	142	170.547	5	Müslüm (KS)	100.262	1.551.237		180	-	8,3
17	9.783	+3	440	22	26.321	3	Augsburger Puppenkiste - Geister der Weihnacht (UNI)	56.892	155.023		50	-	-
18	8.759	-49	174	50	413.923	6	A Simple Favor (SC)	79.228	3.450.255		425	85	7,0
19	7.270	-17	50	145	18.565	2	Hedefim Sensin (KS)	65.804	164.676		30	-	6,6
20	6.491	-46	75	87	187.626	5	Night School (U)	55.863	1.525.612		200	29	5,5
10 20	976.699 1.108.052	-22 -21	5.401 7.860	181 141		50	Besucherzahlen ermittelt von				-55 -52	% vs. Vorjahr

 

I really love the website!

[IndustriousAngel]

Germnay's Top20 last weekend:

	title	admissions	th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	The  Grinch	267.449	719	372	1.157.958	9.349.363	-26	3
2	Fantastic Beasts 2	161.075	696	231	3.113.557	31.594.696	-39	5
3	100 Dinge	141.756	627	226	444.966	3.795.901	-29	2
4	Mortal Engines	107.810	493	219	108.260	1.237.060	-	1
5	Bohemian Rhapsody	76.078	748	102	2.112.693	19.531.586	-35	7
6	Spider-Verse	67.761	516	131	72.438	619.586	-	1
7	Tabaluga	56.124	603	93	198.181	1.329.717	-44	2
8	Unknown User 2	39.827	325	123	126.877	1.071.166	-34	2
-	MET: La Traviata	37.634	211	178	37.634	1.102.646
9	The Nutcracker	35.134	556	63	937.438	7.957.886	-32	7
10	Astrid	23.685	118	201	75.324	618.435	-20	2
11	Widows	21.988	309	71	84.604	742.339	-47	2
12	25 km/h	20.864	443	47	787.122	6.482.166	-38	7
13	Der Vorname	16.107	371	43	994.723	8.437.162	-34	9
14	Elliot: The Littlest Reindeer	15.727	434	36	148.022	930.720	-30	6
15	Kona fer í stríð	13.987	90	155	18.422	136.159	-	1
16	Müslüm	10.377	73	142	170.547	1.551.237	-44	5
17	Augsburger Puppenkiste	9.783	440	22	26.321	155.023	+3	3
18	A Simple Favor	8.759	174	50	413.923	3.450.255	-49	6
19	Hedefim Sensin	7.270	50	145	18.565	164.676	-17	2
20	Night School	6.491	75	87	187.626	1.525.612	-46	5

Horrible for the openers and not too good for holdovers either … animated Spider-Man is an instant flop, gasp at that PTA … Mortal Engines not much bettter but at least that's not a well-known franchise so an uphill battle. Looking for good news, Fantastic Beasts 2 is keeping ahead of part 1.

Next weekend: Aquaman should go higher than this weeks openers but more than 200k seem unlikely (Justice League wasn't big here), Bumblebee should cash in on the well-known franchise but looks lackluster, so same range, and Mary Poppins Returns is one more Disney remake nobody's been asking for, should see a run similar to Nutcracker's. Overall, I see The Grinch rather safely in #1 …

[IndustriousAngel]

at my theater today's opening night for Mary Poppins and it doesn't look any better than last week's openers ... Aquaman opens tomorrow, looking MUCH better! (>200k possible?). Bumblebee is an instant flop it seems ...

[VTKajin]

What kind of opening for Aquaman would result in typical MCU numbers? And does Germany normally have Christmas legs?

[IndustriousAngel]

6 hours ago, VTKajin said:

What kind of opening for Aquaman would result in typical MCU numbers? And does Germany normally have Christmas legs?

"typical" MCU numbers don't exist - take an unknown property like Ant-Man, none of the two movies reached a million admissions. An opening in the 250-300k range would be excellent for Aquaman.

And yes, there are christmas "legs", at least December is usually one of the strongest months (if not the strongest) but thanks to the many releases, those holiday legs are not for every movie.

[Aristis]

6 hours ago, VTKajin said:

What kind of opening for Aquaman would result in typical MCU numbers? And does Germany normally have Christmas legs?

Those are the OWs of the other DCEU movies in admissions:

admissions theatres

257.043	563	MOS
554.890	657	BvS
500.016	618	Suicide Squad
214.491	525	JL
222.252	563	WW

 

AQ should land between MOS and Suicide Squad. InsideKino predicts 375k and a total of 1,5M. I wouldn't be surprised if it'll be lower than both numbers.

 

Maybe around 300k for $3,75M on OW.

 

Edited December 20, 2018 by Aristis

[Wotad]

4 hours ago, Aristis said:

Those are the OWs of the other DCEU movies in admissions:

admissions theatres

257.043	563	MOS
554.890	657	BvS
500.016	618	Suicide Squad
214.491	525	JL
222.252	563	WW

 

AQ should land between MOS and Suicide Squad. InsideKino predicts 375k and a total of 1,5M. I wouldn't be surprised if it'll be lower than both numbers.

 

Maybe around 300k for $3,75M on OW.

 

375k would be great or even 300k would be fine 😜 

[IndustriousAngel]

I would be extremely happy with 300k ... don't know why estimates are so high (estimates for Bumblebee are also >100k and that's looking like a horrible flop at my theater ... maybe everybody is counting on a very strong Sat/Sun ?)

[Aristis]

1st Trend: It seems they were right to be optimistic!

 

AQM 400k (around $5M+)

Grinch 300k (+12%) 1,54M

MPR 225k

Bumblebee 150k

FB2 140k (-13%) 3,31M

100 Dinge 140k (-1%)

ME 70k (-35%)

BR 60k (-21%)

 

FB1 6th WE: 96k (-39%) 3,05M (not really comparable though, other christmas constellation...)

Edited December 21, 2018 by Aristis

[IndustriousAngel]

wow, that's excellent for Aquaman! Nice surprise here

[el sid]

Some Thursday actuals (source Blickpunkt: Film):

The new releases:

Aquaman (released in 500 theaters) 60k/766k US$ - above expectations too
Mary Poppins Returns (released in 607 theaters, the original film had 4M admissions here): 26k
Bumblebee (460): 20k
Personally I expected worse numbers for MPR and Bumblebee...

The holdovers (not many numbers are reported as you can see but all look nice, will be the same for the rest of the movies):

The Grinch: 40k (actuals last Thursday 17k) - great!
100 Dinge: 21.5k (17k)
FB2: 20k (17k)

[Taruseth]

7 hours ago, Aristis said:

1st Trend: It seems they were right to be optimistic!

 

AQM 400k (around $5M+)

Grinch 300k (+12%) 1,54M

MPR 225k

Bumblebee 150k

FB2 140k (-13%) 3,31M

100 Dinge 140k (-1%)

ME 70k (-35%)

BR 60k (-21%)

 

FB1 6th WE: 96k (-39%) 3,05M (not really comparable though, other christmas constellation...)

WTF, that's really good for Aquaman..

Really good for Grinch.

Meh for MPR

I expected less for Bumblebee, so it's good, but on the other hand 150k isn't much.

 

FB2 with a fucking 140k 6th weekend, that is crazy.

Can FB2 do 3.75M adm. in total (or at least get close?) that would be $42.5M (I of course hope for 4M, but I doubt it will get that far.)

100 Dinge with a great hold.

I honestly am surprised by ME (I expected at lest a 50% drop) though I am going to watch it tomorrow evening with two friends.

BR hopefully profits from Christmas season.

[miketheavenger]

2nd trend:

 

Aquaman: 400k

Grinch: 310k

MPR: 210k

100 Dinge: 160k

Bumblebee: 150k

FB2: 140k