BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[Aristis]

2 hours ago, Taruseth said:

The other movies probably all were way more backloaded and didn't have summer holiday in 70% of Germany (population wise).

Non of those are great comps, but I can't imagine any really. Still, 200k+ is huge compared to what I feared (while I had some dreams of it going higher). With rainy weather maybe approaching 300k+ would have been possible.

[Taruseth]

37 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

not sure if I understood you correctly, in case its about to compare with AEG, I think they did not start with the release to show the film

Sorry, but I don't get what you want to tell me.

 

2 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Non of those are great comps, but I can't imagine any really. Still, 200k+ is huge compared to what I feared (while I had some dreams of it going higher). With rainy weather maybe approaching 300k+ would have been possible.

Yeah it certainly is better than what expected but on the other hand comps suggested something around 180k so not much above that.

[terrestrial]

55 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

Sorry, but I don't get what you want to tell me.

If I remember it right, CinemaxX was still conferring with Disney for a time and did not start to show A:EG at its release day.

= not sure if your post was comparing presales.... and if you compared if it did include CinemaxX or not and so on

 

[Taruseth]

1 hour ago, terrestrial said:

If I remember it right, CinemaxX was still conferring with Disney for a time and did not start to show A:EG at its release day.

= not sure if your post was comparing presales.... and if you compared if it did include CinemaxX or not and so on

 

They started presales 8 or 9 days before the opening.

[terrestrial]

51 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

They started presales 8 or 9 days before the opening.

I found two different details,

 

Insidekino Forum (week 19)

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Dienstag 2. April 2019, 22:30

Und Cinemaxx verweigert wieder einen Vorverkauf wegen Verhandlungen mit Disney.

Dienstag 16. April 2019, 12:35

Seit gestern Abend hat dann auch das Cinemaxx notgedrungen (?) mit dem Vorverkauf begonnen. Beim Double können sie sich aber wohl noch nicht entscheiden, ob sie 2D oder 3D zeigen. Als Filmtitel und Beschreibung steht 3D, bei der Vorstellungsinfo aber 2D

At that time they already sold at other theatres a lot of tickets = not sure if they presold 100% of the possible amount

 

But:

 

also certain locations of theirs (and Cinestar, belongs to/with them) were under industrial action

 

Quote

Spoiler

Dabei gilt dringend zu beachten: Die folgende Liste ist auf dem Stand vom 25. April 2019, 15 Uhr, und ist nicht final. In den folgenden Tagen und Wochen können noch weitere Lichtspielhäuser, die hier nicht berücksichtigt werden konnten, dazukommen, andere könnten wiederum in der Zwischenzeit zum regulären Betrieb übergehen.

Cinestar

Berlin Sony Center
Berlin Cubix
Berlin Treptower Park
Berlin Tegel
Osnabrück
Siegen
Frankfurt Mainzer Landstraße
Frankfurt Metropolis
Bamberg
Mainz
Erlangen
Bonn
Bielefeld
Dortmund
Gütersloh
Hagen

Cinemaxx

Oldenburg
Kiel
Freiburg
Berlin
Trier
Hannover
Wuppertal
Göttingen
HH Harburg
HH Wandsbek
HH Dammtor
Krefeld
Offenbach
Halle

Insgesamt können sich laut unseren Quellen Filmfans in Ost- und Süddeutschland glücklich schätzen, da in diesen Regionen deutlich weniger bis fast gar nicht gestreikt wird

 

 I do remember to have read about less showtimes and such during AEG first week in those kind of locations

[Taruseth]

20 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

I found two different details,

 

Insidekino Forum (week 19)

At that time they already sold at other theatres a lot of tickets = not sure if they presold 100% of the possible amount

 

But:

 

also certain locations of theirs (and Cinestar, belongs to/with them) were under industrial action

 

 I do remember to have read about less showtimes and such during AEG first week in those kind of locations

So start was about 8 days before.

And this comment wasn't even around that. My main point was Midnight showings and those were strong for Endgame and barely there for TLK.

 

Don't know in general but the Metropolis still had a big amount of shows for Endgame and the show count didn't increase in the 2nd Wend so it wasn't incredibly depressed in the first Wend, and I didn't count but it at least looked healthy overall. Might have taken a little bit of the Wend but don't think it was that much (maybe 5%) which still would be an insane amount of adm. (105k)  but percentage wise it doesn't matter much.

 

[Aristis]

1st Trend:

 

TLK 990k (4-day, 2nd biggest OW of the year), 1,2M (5-day), for the 4-day that'd be nearly exactly the same as TLK 25 years ago (984k). The weather will be a deciding factor though...

 

Everything else with sharp drops...

Pets2 150k (-58%) 1,46M total

SM:FFH 150k (-52%) 1,24M (passed SM:HC 1,01M)

Yesterday 70k (-48%/-58%)

Annabelle3 45k (-57%)

 

TOP10 biggest OW of 2019:

(4-day admissions/cinemas/average)

1	1.671.661	717	2.331	AEG (2,13M incl. Wed)
2	990.000*	746*	1.327	TLK (1,2M incl. Wed)
3	640.081	633	1.011	Captain Marvel
4	615.664	669	920	HTTYD3
5	433.972	628	691	SM:FFH
6	404.976	595	681	DP
7	369.307	599	617	Ralph2
8	288.588	667	433	Aladdin
9	285.190	547	521	John Wick 3
10	272.095	485	561	After Passion

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Aristis

[Taruseth]

1 minute ago, Aristis said:

1st Trend:

 

TLK 990k (4-day, 2nd biggest OW of the year), 1,2M (5-day), for the 4-day that'd be nearly exactly the same as TLK 25 years ago (984k). The weather will be a deciding factor though...

 

Everything else with sharp drops...

Pets2 150k (-58%)

SM:FFH 150k (-52%)

Yesterday 70k (-48%/-58%)

Annabelle3 45k (-57%)

 

1	1.671.661	717	2.331	AEG (2,13M incl. Wed)
2	990.000*	746*	1.327	TLK (1,2M incl. Wed)
3	640.081	633	1.011	Captain Marvel
4	615.664	669	920	HTTYD3
5	433.972	628	691	SM:FFH
6	404.976	595	681	DP
7	369.307	599	617	Ralph2
8	288.588	667	433	Aladdin
9	285.190	547	521	John Wick 3
10	272.095	485	561	After Passion

 

TLK Wednesday 210k and €2m ≈ $2.25m

Some Thursday actuals:

TLK: 175k (€1700k ≈ $1912.5k) (Total: 385k and €3.7m ≈ $4.16m)

FFH: 30k (€300k ≈ $337.5k)

Pets 2: 25k (€190k ≈ $213.75k)

Yesterday: 13k (€110k ≈ $123.75k)

Annabelle 3: 8 (€70k ≈ $78.75k)

 

Anna: 4.2k (€35k ≈ $39.375k) (#8)

Child's Play: 3k (€25k ≈ $28.125k)

 

 

Right now I think the extremes are (weekend really hot): 750k (4-day) (IM: 4.28)

Thunderstorms lead to a rather rainy Wend: 1250k (4-day) (IM: 7.14)

 

 

Maybe I am overly optimistic but today looks better than both Wednesday and yesterday. I mean like the evening shows are about 35-40% ahead of the ones yesterday. So kinda hoping for good walkups overall and a Friday of 250k (though it will probably come in below around 215-225k)

 

[Taruseth]

7 hours ago, Taruseth said:

TLK Wednesday 210k and €2m ≈ $2.25m

Some Thursday actuals:

TLK: 175k (€1700k ≈ $1912.5k) (Total: 385k and €3.7m ≈ $4.16m)

FFH: 30k (€300k ≈ $337.5k)

Pets 2: 25k (€190k ≈ $213.75k)

Yesterday: 13k (€110k ≈ $123.75k)

Annabelle 3: 8 (€70k ≈ $78.75k)

 

Anna: 4.2k (€35k ≈ $39.375k) (#8)

Child's Play: 3k (€25k ≈ $28.125k)

 

 

Right now I think the extremes are (weekend really hot): 750k (4-day) (IM: 4.28)

Thunderstorms lead to a rather rainy Wend: 1250k (4-day) (IM: 7.14)

 

 

Maybe I am overly optimistic but today looks better than both Wednesday and yesterday. I mean like the evening shows are about 35-40% ahead of the ones yesterday. So kinda hoping for good walkups overall and a Friday of 250k (though it will probably come in below around 215-225k)

 

The 20pm showings are now more like 70% ahead right now and the late night showings are obviously even more ahead (more like 100-200% ahead). Think the afternoon shows were rather close so overall maybe 50% ahead.

I am confused, such a big increase would be really crazy...

Probably over performing in the north.

Still thinking 225k is the target (obviously 250k would be way better for the Wend).

 

Edited July 19, 2019 by Taruseth

[IndustriousAngel]

Saturday update from insidekino.de: No changes ... LK 1,2mil, SM and Pets 150k.

[titanic2187]

TLK opening lower than EG???

 

That is some unexpected outcome at the beginning of 2019

[Moses]

1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:

TLK opening lower than EG???

 

That is some unexpected outcome at the beginning of 2019

EG was a monster

[Taruseth]

1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:

TLK opening lower than EG???

 

That is some unexpected outcome at the beginning of 2019

Lower opening was always likely, but it looks like it will also end lower with such an opening that is more surprising. 

[titanic2187]

44 minutes ago, Moses said:

EG was a monster

 

9 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

Lower opening was always likely, but it looks like it will also end lower with such an opening that is more surprising. 

The original TLK had over 11m admission in 1994 german, while before EG, none of the avengers film hit 4m admission in german. Marvels franchise isn't a monster here in germany.   To think that TLK will be open below EG is insane. Yet we are here..

[john2000]

14 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

Lower opening was always likely, but it looks like it will also end lower with such an opening that is more surprising. 

ow in dollars ?

[john2000]

1 minute ago, titanic2187 said:

 

The original TLK had over 11m admission in 1994 german, while before EG, none of the avengers film hit 4m admission in german. Marvels franchise isn't a monster here in germany.   To think that TLK will be open below EG is insane. Yet we are here..

i mean endgame made almost 30 million on ow even bigger than tfa

[titanic2187]

5 minutes ago, john2000 said:

i mean endgame made almost 30 million on ow even bigger than tfa

But TFA had 9m final total admission, EG is at 5m, slightly more than half of TFA

[john2000]

7 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

But TFA had 9m final total admission, EG is at 5m, slightly more than half of TFA

yes, i am talking about ow here, not legs

[Aristis]

55 minutes ago, john2000 said:

ow in dollars ?

Most likely $12M+

[john2000]

5 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Most likely $12M+

any idea about final total ?