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Sunday must have been strong (sure was rainy here); Spidey up again and Pets2 with a massive increase ...

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3 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Sunday must have been strong (sure was rainy here); Spidey up again and Pets2 with a massive increase ...

Yeah, damn:

Spidey: 435k (+56k Previews) (Homecoming opened with 300k)

Pets 2: 315k (+59% / 30.7% with Previews and Sneaks on Sunday and all that)

Annabelle 3: 130k (between the first and the second)

Aladdin: 67.5k (+34.7%)

FFA: 65k (+33.2%)

 

Pets 2 is way higher than I thought.

 

Didn't increase as much as I hoped but at least it increased:

On 7/2/2019 at 10:17 PM, Taruseth said:

[...]

 

Hope Aladdin can increase to something around 75k (I know that would be a 50% increase) but to at least get any close to 2m it would need that increase and then incredible legs afterwards, to be fair I highly doubt it will get past 1.8m but one can always hope (1.8m would be a 6.2x so quite good).

[...]

 

 

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Germany's Top18 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Spider-Man FFH

433.972

628

691

490.235

5.123.517

-

1

2

Pets 2

317.580

745

426

672.489

5.532.215

+61

2

3

Annabelle 3

124.107

370

335

131.895

1.208.803

-

1

4

Aladdin

68.546

553

124

1.622.597

14.878.953

+37

7

5

Five Feet Apart

65.827

487

135

307.384

2.470.366

+35

3

6

Traumfabrik

28.082

425

66

44.141

378.783

-

1

7

John Wick 3

25.351

366

69

1.086.800

10.118.278

-1

7

8

Men in Black International

23.172

433

54

355.526

3.386.701

-40

4

9

Rocketman

20.582

437

47

527.156

4.784.499

+14

6

10

Kroos

16.219

148

110

19.315

172.551

-

1

11

TKKG

15.005

485

31

188.602

1.232.702

+52

5

12

Pokémon Detektive Pikachu

12.608

379

33

1.365.599

11.590.191

+15

9

13

Le Grand Bain

10.404

141

74

39.613

295.754

+16

2

14

Red Joan

10.248

91

113

11.957

96.738

-

1

15

Avengers - Endgame

9.739

183

53

5.043.912

56.764.686

-23

11

16

Long Shot

9.312

301

31

113.372

888.616

-34

3

17

X-Men Dark Phoenix

7.793

217

36

369.401

3.715.626

-52

5

18

The Dead Don't Die

7.649

84

91

88.748

693.727

+13

4

Nice weekend after all, good openings and terrific increases!

Next weekend: Danny Boyle's Yesterday will probably be the biggest opener but there's little doubt that Spidey and the Pets will stay on top, Yesterday will probably come in 3rd.

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In other news, Austria's June numbers are official and it's been the worst ever (no surprise since it was also the hottest June ever) - 2nd quarter is still up from 2017 thanks to the strong April but 1st and 2nd quarter combined make for the worst half-year in recent history (but we're only 1% down from the horrible 2018 numbers so strangely there's still hope we won't see the worst year ever!)

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On 7/7/2019 at 6:49 AM, IndustriousAngel said:

shows how dependent German (and Austrian) BO is on weather ...

Why is that btw? Seems to be the case in a lot of European countries.

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1 hour ago, Menor said:

Why is that btw? Seems to be the case in a lot of European countries.

Honestly, no idea.

Germans tend to all go swimming or to a beer garden when it's hot or not leave their home at all.

Why? I don't know, most cinemas are air-conditioned nowadays so it would be a good idea too.

 

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26 minutes ago, Taruseth said:

Honestly, no idea.

Germans tend to all go swimming or to a beer garden when it's hot or not leave their home at all.

Why? I don't know, most cinemas are air-conditioned nowadays so it would be a good idea too.

 

If it is hot, I somehow love to watch the movie in the cinema +  enjoy the cool air there. Nowadays, it is also a good way to avoid the hot weather outside.

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5 hours ago, Taruseth said:

Honestly, no idea.

Germans tend to all go swimming or to a beer garden when it's hot or not leave their home at all.

Why? I don't know, most cinemas are air-conditioned nowadays so it would be a good idea too.

 

I wonder often too, but me too do not drive as much to a cinema during the hot weeks, beside being aware about that being a bit illogical.

 

Short ways to something where the complete family can enjoy or avoid the heat/sun.

No long got drives in a car if possible

Plus eat something typical beer-garden like, typical pick-nick, no cooking at home to increase the heat within the homes

 

Spending the day inside and doing ~ barbecue / grilling with grilled legumes and salads.... with a cool beer or so at the cooler evenings - again no cooking inside....

 

Maybe based on:

- The most private homes here have no air condition (its not green anyway) hence the no cooking inside.

- Tradition how to react to heat waves.

 

I think its possible in Europe people drove (past) in average smaller cars - I feel the smaller modern cars heat up faster than bigger cars, less nice to drive during the hot hours.

 

Some cinemas in the past were not good with fresh air and temps = I guess the habits didn't change to more cinema visits like in some other countries with hot weather too.

Maybe bcs here its not every year that hot or only for a rather short time, ppl want it, but if too hot hate and love it = love to enjoy the outside of bearable.

 

Only ideas.... there could be a lot more 😉

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Obviously Germans are sunshine fanatics. Maybe because of the often grey winters or because of the long time some spend in the office. Ironically they seem to like to sit in their cars the half weekend to drive into the countryside ;). Still, in other countries the weather- and working-conditions are similar and the theaters are not almost deserted. 

No surprise that the movies improved in the third trend last weekend. The Saturday was - where I live - cloudy after noon (with a mini-storm at the Starnberger See) and the Sunday was cold and grey. Till today it was pretty cold, at the moment with a bit more sunshine.
And the weekend is predicted to become not too hot either, partly muggy and partly changeable. Should work quite well for the movies, at least it won't become as bad as two weeks ago.

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The Lion King:

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Wednesday 10thJuly 2019 23:59 MESZ (T-6) Cinestar Bremen

Wednesday:

3D 11:30: 2 / 572

3D 13:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 14:30: 0 / 572

3D 16:30: 0 / 425 (NEW)

3D 17:30: 34 / 572

3D 20:20: 71 / 572

 

2D 11:00: 2 / 425 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 16 / 425

2D 17:00: 7 / 425 (NEW)

2D 19:30: 23 / 425 (NEW)

 

Total: 155 / 4838 -> 3.2% (+125 / +2125)

 

Thursday:

3D 11:30: 0 / 572

3D 14:30: 0 / 572

3D 17:30: 4 / 572

3D 20:20: 15 / 572

3D 22:30: 0 / 425

 

2D 14:00: 0 / 425

 

Total: 19 / 3138 -> 0.61% (+13)

 

Friday:

3D 11:30: 0 / 572

3D 14:30: 0 / 572

3D 17:30: 7 / 572

3D 20:20: 14 / 572

3D 22:30: 0 / 425

 

2D 14:00: 0 / 425

 

Total: 21 / 3138 -> 0.67% (+19)

 

Saturday:

3D 11:30: 2 / 572

3D 14:30: 0 / 572

3D 17:30: 2 / 572

3D 20:20: 24 / 572

3D 22:30: 2 / 425

 

2D 14:00: 11 / 425

 

Total: 41 / 3138 -> 1.31% (+17)

 

Sunday:

OV 3D 20:20: 2 / 296

 

3D 11:30: 0 / 572

3D 14:30: 4 / 572

3D 17:30: 2 / 572

3D 20:20: 7 / 572

 

2D 14:00: 2 / 425

 

Total: 17 / 3009 -> 0.56% (+12)

 

Total WTFSS: 253 / 17261 -> 0.44% (+186 / +2125)

Total TFSS: 98 / 12423 -> 0.79% (+61)

 

Wednesday 10thJuly 2019 23:59 MESZ (T-6) CinemaxX Bremen

Wednesday – Previews:

OV 3D 00:01: 2 / 454

3D 00:01: 19 / 505

Total: 21 / 959 -> 2.19% (+5)

 

Wednesday:

3D 15:00: 0 / 145 (NEW)

3D 17:00: 13 / 505

3D 20:00: 32 / 505

3D 23:00: 0 / 505

 

OV 3D 19:30: 51 / 454

 

OV 2D 22:45: 2 / 173 (NEW)

 

2D 14:00: 2 / 505

2D 14:00: 0 / 288 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 8 / 288 (NEW)

2D 14:00: 2 / 288 (NEW)

 

Total: 110 / 3656 -> 3.01% (+79 / +1182)

 

Thursday:

3D 17:00: 3 / 505

3D 20:00: 7 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

OV 2D 19:30: 37 / 454

 

2D 14:00: 0 / 505

 

Total: 47 / 2474 -> 1.90% (+30)

 

Friday:

3D 17:00: 0 / 505

3D 20:00: 21 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

2D 14:00: 4 / 505

 

Total: 25 / 2020 -> 1.24% (+25)

 

Saturday:

3D 17:00: 12 / 505

3D 20:00: 0 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

2D 14:00: 4 / 505

 

Total: 16 / 2020 -> 0.79% (+14)

 

Sunday:

3D 17:00: 0 / 505

3D 20:00: 0 / 505

3D 23:10: 0 / 505

 

2D 14:00: 2 / 505

 

Total: 2 / 2020 -> 0.99‰ (+2)

 

Total WTFSS w Previews: 221 / 13149 -> 0.55% (+155)

Total WTFSS: 200 / 12190 -> 0.45% (+150)

Total TFSS: 90 / 8534 -> 1.06% (+71)

 

Wednesday 10thJuly 2019 23:00 MESZ (T-6) Cinestar Metropolis Frankfurt

FOR OD THIS HAS 20 SHOWINGS THAT ARE 5 MORE THAN ENDGAME ON OPENING DAY NOT COUNTING PREVIEWS AS TLK HAS NONE:

 

Wednesday:

OV 3D 11:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 3 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 20 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 170 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 4 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 5 / 642

3D 14:15: 7 / 642

3D 17:15: 18 / 642

3D 20:15: 92 / 642

3D 23:15: 12 / 642

 

2D 11:45: 0 / 273 (NEW)

2D 13:15: 5 / 351

2D 16:15: 18 / 351

2D 19:15: 30 / 351 (NEW)

2D 22:15: 2 / 351 (NEW)

 

OV 2D 11:30: 0 / 283 (NEW)

OV 2D 13:00: 4 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 16:00: 10 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 19:00: 18 / 344 (NEW)

OV 2D 22:00: 2 / 344 (NEW)

 

Total: 422 / 9666-> 4.37% (+328 / +2634)

 

Thursday:

OV 3D 11:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 20 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 2 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 0 / 642

3D 14:15: 1 / 642

3D 17:15: 6 / 642

3D 20:15: 15 / 642

3D 23:15: 0 / 642

 

2D 13:15: 0 / 351

2D 16:15: 0 / 351

 

Total: 46 / 7032 -> 0.65% (+40)

 

Friday:

OV 3D 11:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 11 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 21 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 2 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 0 / 642

3D 14:15: 2 / 642

3D 17:15: 3 / 642

3D 20:15: 36 / 642

3D 23:15: 0 / 642

 

2D 13:15: 0 / 351

2D 16:15: 4 / 351

 

Total: 81 / 7032 -> 1.15% (+69)

 

Saturday:

OV 3D 11:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 10 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 13 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 0 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 3 / 642

3D 14:15: 0 / 642

3D 17:15: 9 / 642

3D 20:15: 9 / 642

3D 23:15: 0 / 642

 

2D 13:15: 0 / 351

2D 16:15: 2 / 351

 

Total: 48 / 7032 -> 0.68% (+28)

 

Sunday:

OV 3D 11:00: 4 / 624

OV 3D 14:00: 4 / 624

OV 3D 17:00: 0 / 624

OV 3D 20:00: 2 / 624

OV 3D 23:00: 0 / 624

 

3D 11:15: 0 / 642

3D 14:15: 5 / 642

3D 17:15: 0 / 642

3D 20:15: 0 / 642

3D 23:15: 0 / 642

 

2D 13:15: 4 / 351

2D 16:15: 4 / 351

 

Total: 23 / 7032 -> 0.33% (+21)

 

Total WTFSS: 620 / 37794 -> 1.64% (+486 / +2634)

Total TFSS: 198 / 28128 -> 0.7% (+158)

 

(T-6)

Don’t know what to make out of this…

The lack of traditional Previews makes this even harder to count.

It got 5941 additional seats on Wednesday for a total of 18160 seats on Wednesday that’s more seats than for example Five Feet Apart got over the whole weekend.

Also it’s incredibly, incredibly Wednesday-heavy.

Previews: X + 21 + X = 16 (+7)

Wed: 155 + 110 + 422 = 687 (+532 / + 5941 new Seats)

Th: 19 + 47 + 46 = 112 (+83)

Fri: 21 + 25 + 81 = 127 (+113)

Sat: 41 + 16 + 48 = 105 (+59)

Sun: 17 + 2 + 23 = 42 (+35)

TFSS: 98 + 90 + 198 = 386 (+290)

PWTFSS: 253 + 221 + 620 = 1094 / 68204 -> 1.6% (+827/ +5941) 

 

OD now is roughly on par with Spider-Man’s OD one day out.

Even the weak weekend is over FFA, Godzilla, Pets 2, Rocketman, MIBI, Dark Phoenix and about 78% of Aladdin’s final presales on Preview night and about 40% of John Wick’s final presale numbers.

 

Don’t think it will be as big as it could be but it certainly should get the second best summer opening only behind Endgame and I really hope that it’s 4-day Wend will also get the 2ndbest opening overall this year.

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Weather this WE is pretty bad so we might see some great drops hopefully. My hopes for Pets2 and Aladdin are especially high, maybe they can be flat...

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First Trend for the Wend:

Spidey: 300k (-30.9% / -38.8% with Previews)

Pets 2: 275k (-13.5% but still 38.9% / 14.1% over OWend)

Yesterday: 140k (incl. Previews)

Annabelle 3: 85k (-31.5% / -35.6%)

FFA: 70k (+6.1%)

Aladdin: 70k (+1% so flat)

 

Totals after this Wend:

Spider: 960k (First one had barely above 1m)

Pets 2: 1090k (will end it's run above 2m so a 10x multi from true OWend)

Annabelle 3: 260k (First one finished with 471k, second with 602k, this will end somewhere around the first)

FFA: 420k (final around 600k)

Aladdin: 1725k (will hopefully end slightly above TJB 1877k, I guess TLK will hurt it too much so it won't be able to get to 2m, but 1880k would still be a 6.5x)

 

Thursday actuals:

Spider: 55k (€535k ≈ $600k

Pets 2: 50k (€385k ≈ $485k)

Yesterday: 18.5k (€160k ≈ $180k)

Annabelle 3: 15k (€135k ≈ $150k)

Alladin: 12k (€105k ≈ $120k)

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4 hours ago, Taruseth said:

Spider: 960k (First one had barely above 1m)

But it's important to clarify that SM:HC just had 1M total, after 2nd WE it was at 555k - that might not be clear. Impressive that its 2nd WE might beat SM:HC OW.

 

Weather is so bad today, I hope there might be increases with the 2nd Trend.

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2 hours ago, Aristis said:

But it's important to clarify that SM:HC just had 1M total, after 2nd WE it was at 555k - that might not be clear. Impressive that its 2nd WE might beat SM:HC OW.

 

Weather is so bad today, I hope there might be increases with the 2nd Trend.

Yeah, sorry, FFA will increase something between 50% and 70% compared to the first.

 

Really hope Aladdin sees an increase I am still hoping for those 2m but know that it's really unlikely unless it manages a good increase this weekend and doesn't drop much against TLK which is rather unlikely.

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Posted (edited)

2nd Trend:

 

Pets2 300k (-6%)

SM:FFH 300k (-31%/-39%)

Yesterday 140k

Annabelle 95k (-23%/-28%)

Aladdin 70k (+1%)

FFA 70k (+6%) Can anybody tell me why "Five Feet Apart" is called something like "Three Steps towards you" in german? :D

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9 minutes ago, Aristis said:

2nd Trend:

 

Pets2 300k (-6%)

SM:FFH 300k (-31%/-39%)

Yesterday 140k

Annabelle 95k (-23%/-28%)

Aladdin 70k (+1%)

FFA 70k (+6%) Can anybody tell me why "Five Feet Apart" is called something like "Three Steps towards you" in german? :D

It is normal for a german to walk five feet in 3 steps? 

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1 hour ago, Aristis said:

2nd Trend:

 

Pets2 300k (-6%)

SM:FFH 300k (-31%/-39%)

Yesterday 140k

Annabelle 95k (-23%/-28%)

Aladdin 70k (+1%)

FFA 70k (+6%) Can anybody tell me why "Five Feet Apart" is called something like "Three Steps towards you" in german? :D

That hold for Pets 2, the fuck, I haven't watched it and don't plan on doing it because I didn't like the first one, but a lot of people seem to like it.

 

No, also every time I read FFA I think Filmförderungsanstalt🤣

Maybe because Fünf Füße voneinander entfernt would be an awful title, so it got a new name Drei Schritte zu Dir. Auch wenn fünf Fuß weniger als drei Schritte sind...

 

If just the weather could be this bad next Wend we might see a nice OWend for TLK but it looks like weather will get better.

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

It is normal for a german to walk five feet in 3 steps? 

Reading your post makes me think of

Spoiler

Blitzkrieg

jokes so I'm better not gonna answer 😬:ph34r:

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Posted (edited)

And with the 3rd Trend there are some increases again!

 

Pets2 350k (+10%) This means it's 77% above its first WE (excluding Previews). It should be around 1,16M after Sunday and therefore already have a multipler of x5,85!!! (Pets1 had x5,45 after the whole run...) :ohmygod:

The third WE of the first Pets was 365k, so despite opening 72% lower it's now nearly the same...

 

SM:FFH 300k (-31%/-39%)

Yesterday 160k

Annabelle 100k (-20%/-24%)

Aladdin 85k (+23%) In its 8th WE Aladdin is 70% above its 6th WE too. Awesome run!

FFA 67,5k (+2%)

JW3 27,5k (+10%)

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