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Thursday Numbers:

 

#1 Frozen 2 43k (-39%) €365k / $300k

#2 Geheimnis 20k (-33%) €175k / $193k

#3 Last Christmas 10,2k (-6%) €85k / $94k

#4 Hustlers 7,6k (-32%) €65k / $72k

#5 Joker 4,5k (-33%) €41k / $45k

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11 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Thursday Numbers:

 

#1 Frozen 2 43k (-39%) €365k / $300k

#2 Geheimnis 20k (-33%) €175k / $193k

#3 Last Christmas 10,2k (-6%) €85k / $94k

#4 Hustlers 7,6k (-32%) €65k / $72k

#5 Joker 4,5k (-33%) €41k / $45k

Bad sign for F2? 

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12 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

Bad sign for F2? 

The drop is neither awful nor is it great. It's ok. I would have hoped for a better drop by now but the biggest 3rd WE of the year really wouldn't be bad. It's still on course for 6M+ I'd say.

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6 minutes ago, Aristis said:

The drop is neither awful nor is it great. It's ok. I would have hoped for a better drop by now but the biggest 3rd WE of the year really wouldn't be bad. It's still on course for 6M+ I'd say.

6M+ means $55M+ ??

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15 minutes ago, PKMLover said:

6M+ means $55M+ ??

Roughly yeah, depending on how the ATP changes, 6M should be roughly $54-55M

 

~600k 3rd weekend would be okay (it's a great weekend, but I had hoped for a better drop).

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2nd trend by insidekino.de:

 

Frozen II: 650k (-31%) Total > 3600k

Geheimnis: 175k (-28.6%) Total ~3960k

Last Christmas: 80k (+1.7%) Total ~560k

Hustlers: 60k (-15.5%)

Joker: 35k (-34%) Total ~3960k

Le Mans 66: 25k (-34.6%)

Mucize 2: 25k

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while of course everybody was hoping for a better drop, it's more important how well F2 will play over the holidays.

 

other topic: yesterday me and my friend saw the Lord of the Rings triple-feature at our cinema, about 400 enthusiastic people there despite it being the extended editions; takes some stamina to spend 13 hours there ;) those events are becoming more important with streaming taking away more and more of the traditional business.

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21 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

while of course everybody was hoping for a better drop, it's more important how well F2 will play over the holidays.

 

other topic: yesterday me and my friend saw the Lord of the Rings triple-feature at our cinema, about 400 enthusiastic people there despite it being the extended editions; takes some stamina to spend 13 hours there ;) those events are becoming more important with streaming taking away more and more of the traditional business.

Insidekino now predicts:

Frozen II: 700k (-25.6%) total ~ 3670k

Geheimnis: 195k

Last Christmas: 85k (+8%)

Hustlers: 62.5k
Joker: 40k

le Mans 66: 30k

Zombieland: 25k

 

best 3rd weekend by quite a margin for Frozen II. (Would be 4th best 2nd weekend this year behind it’s own 2nd weekend, Endgame’s and 10k behind Joker’s or 6th best opening weekend begin Endgame, itself, Geheimnis, TLK and Joker)

 

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Monday numbers:

 

#1 Frozen2 695k (-26%) 3,69M - biggest 3rd WE of the year

#2 Geheimnis 200k (-18%) 3,985M - biggest 6th WE of the year

#3 Last Christmas 85k (+8%) 565k

#4 Hustlers 60k (-15%/-19%) 160k

#5 Joker 40k (-25%) 3,965M

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Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

Frozen 2

708.427

742

955

3.703.795

31.122.554

-25

3

2

Das perfekte Geheimnis

201.882

773

261

3.977.355

35.332.755

-17

6

3

Last Christmas

86.913

565

154

565.115

4.689.013

+10

4

4

Hustlers

61.671

389

159

158.581

1.377.465

-13

2

5

Joker

40.302

458

88

3.964.680

36.706.241

-24

9

6

Ford vs Ferrari

30.893

376

82

315.747

3.027.795

-19

4

7

Zombieland 2

26.080

381

68

433.653

3.668.432

-18

5

8

Mucize 2

23.305

94

248

23.305

213.739

-

1

9

The Addams Family

20.189

452

45

528.223

3.827.050

-2

7

10

A Rainy Day in New York

16.417

99

166

20.529

168.221

-

1

11

Hors Normes

15.572

109

143

22.994

173.629

-

1

12

Doctor Sleep

15.406

361

43

103.747

966.676

-32

3

13

La belle époque

12.501

115

109

39.989

336.406

-24

2

14

Shaun the Sheep 2

10.186

364

28

865.694

5.834.748

+8

11

15

Maleficent 2

10.120

269

38

1.046.708

10.067.953

-10

8

16

La Befana Vien Di Notte

8.746

311

28

45.334

277.657

+53

5

17

Parasite

8.320

171

49

349.306

3.046.440

-30

8

18

Recep Ivedik 6

8.160

93

88

363.577

3.073.666

-53

5

19

The Lighthouse

7.701

79

97

29.103

232.061

-31

2

20

Angry Birds 2

7.257

208

35

777.164

5.432.285

-2

12

I'm unsure why distributors didn't slot any wide releases for last weekend, seems like an oversight when you look at a chart with the best opener on #8. Ok drops all around, Frozen2 continues its great run and Last Christmas surprised with an increase.

Next weekend:  Jumanji 2 will be the biggest opener but can it beat F2's 4th weekend? I don't think so but it should have a leggy run over the holidays so OW will not be the deciding factor. Other noteworthy openers: Motherless Brooklyn, Black Christmas and domestic kiddie sequel Der kleine Rabe Socke 3.

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5 hours ago, IndustriousAngel said:

Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

 

 

 

title

 

admissions

 

th.

 

PTA

 

total adm.

 

total €

 

drop

 

week

 

1

 

Frozen 2

 

708.427

 

742

 

955

 

3.703.795

 

31.122.554

 

-25

 

 

3

 

2

 

Das perfekte Geheimnis

 

201.882

 

773

 

261

 

3.977.355

 

35.332.755

 

-17

 

 

6

 

3

 

Last Christmas

 

86.913

 

565

 

154

 

565.115

 

4.689.013

 

+10

 

 

4

 

4

 

Hustlers

 

61.671

 

389

 

159

 

158.581

 

1.377.465

 

-13

 

 

2

 

5

 

Joker

 

40.302

 

458

 

88

 

3.964.680

 

36.706.241

 

-24

 

 

9

 

6

 

Ford vs Ferrari

 

30.893

 

376

 

82

 

315.747

 

3.027.795

 

-19

 

 

4

 

7

 

Zombieland 2

 

26.080

 

381

 

68

 

433.653

 

3.668.432

 

-18

 

 

5

 

8

 

Mucize 2

 

23.305

 

94

 

248

 

23.305

 

213.739

 

-

 

1

 

9

 

The Addams Family

 

20.189

 

452

 

45

 

528.223

 

3.827.050

 

-2

 

 

7

 

10

 

A Rainy Day in New York

 

16.417

 

99

 

166

 

20.529

 

168.221

 

-

 

1

 

11

 

Hors Normes

 

15.572

 

109

 

143

 

22.994

 

173.629

 

-

 

1

 

12

 

Doctor Sleep

 

15.406

 

361

 

43

 

103.747

 

966.676

 

-32

 

 

3

 

13

 

La belle époque

 

12.501

 

115

 

109

 

39.989

 

336.406

 

-24

 

 

2

 

14

 

Shaun the Sheep 2

 

10.186

 

364

 

28

 

865.694

 

5.834.748

 

+8

 

 

11

 

15

 

Maleficent 2

 

10.120

 

269

 

38

 

1.046.708

 

10.067.953

 

-10

 

 

8

 

16

 

La Befana Vien Di Notte

 

8.746

 

311

 

28

 

45.334

 

277.657

 

+53

 

 

5

 

17

 

Parasite

 

8.320

 

171

 

49

 

349.306

 

3.046.440

 

-30

 

 

8

 

18

 

Recep Ivedik 6

 

8.160

 

93

 

88

 

363.577

 

3.073.666

 

-53

 

 

5

 

19

 

The Lighthouse

 

7.701

 

79

 

97

 

29.103

 

232.061

 

-31

 

 

2

 

20

 

Angry Birds 2

 

7.257

 

208

 

35

 

777.164

 

5.432.285

 

-2

 

 

12

 

I'm unsure why distributors didn't slot any wide releases for last weekend, seems like an oversight when you look at a chart with the best opener on #8. Ok drops all around, Frozen2 continues its great run and Last Christmas surprised with an increase.

Next weekend:  Jumanji 2 will be the biggest opener but can it beat F2's 4th weekend? I don't think so but it should have a leggy run over the holidays so OW will not be the deciding factor. Other noteworthy openers: Motherless Brooklyn, Black Christmas and domestic kiddie sequel Der kleine Rabe Socke 3.

Good to see Frozen II's 3rd weekend actually being slightly above 700k (had hoped for it coming in slightly above based on a quick look through on Sunday).

For next weekend I think Frozen II should do around 450k (hoping for 500+k) and Jumanji 2 probably around 350-400k.

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Just realised how close Tangled to Frozen 1 in Germany.

 

3.9m admission for Tangled vs 4.8m for Frozen. Was it something to do with the fact that Rapazuel was based on German tale?  

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So again:

 

WE

Frozen1

Frozen2

1st

572

 

654

1.430

 

1.635

2nd

577

1%

1.355

941

-34%

2.822

3rd

476

-18%

1.952

708

-25%

3.704

4th

433

-9%

2.499

     

5th

540

25%

3.242

     

6th

402

-26%

3.838

     

7th

158

-61%

4.091

     

8th

107

-32%

4.217

     

9th

81

-24%

4.311

     

10th

89

10%

4.412

     
     

4.767M

   

6.000M

 

A more detailed one in Spoiler (I hope it works):

Spoiler

 

Frozen1

Frozen2

WE

Weekend

Mid-week

Week

Weekend

Mid-week

Week

1st

572

 

654

124

696

 

1.430

 

1.635

246

1676

 

2nd

577

1%

1.355

121

698

0%

941

-34%

2.822

174

1115

-33%

3rd

476

-18%

1.952

114

590

-15%

708

-25%

3.704

     

4th

433

-9%

2.499

203

636

8%

           

5th

540

25%

3.242

194

734

15%

           

6th

402

-26%

3.838

95

497

-32%

           

7th

158

-61%

4.091

19

177

-64%

           

8th

107

-32%

4.217

13

120

-32%

           

9th

81

-24%

4.311

12

93

-23%

           

10th

89

10%

4.412

   

 

           
   

00000

4.767M

   

00000

 

00000

6.000M

   

00000

 

 

WE

Minions

Frozen2

1st

935

 

935

1.430

 

1.635

2nd

1.040

11%

2.394

941

-34%

2.822

3rd

760

-27%

3.598

708

-25%

3.704

4th

537

-29%

4.419

     

5th

366

-32%

5.147

     

6th

195

-47%

5.521

     

7th

242

24%

5.893

     

8th

111

-54%

6.160

     

9th

81

-27%

6.323

     

10th

125

54%

6.497

     
     

6.946M

   

6.000M

 

 

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With that huge numbers of 708K admissions for 3rd week end in Germany and holidays and Christmas coming next week, could Frozen 2 reach 7 millions admissions and $60M ?

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7mil seem like a stretch but as mentioned, it's the holiday run that will be the deciding factor. We should get a clearer picture already this wekend, with Jumanji2 opening wide for a similar demo - if F2 manages to stand its ground now than we should expect an excellent holiday run, too.

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1st trend by insidekino.de:

 

Frozen II: 450k (4.29M) (-36%)*

Jumanji II: 360k I. P. (J I: 220k i. P.)**

Geheimnis: 140k (4.175M)

LC: 75k (675k)

Kleine Rabe Socke: 55k


joker might get to 4M on Sunday.

* best 4th weekend this year, but I hope it can get a higher weekend, hopefully slightly above 500k but to be honest I doubt it.
 

**not comparable

 

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1 hour ago, Taruseth said:

Frozen II: 450k (4.29M) (-36%)*

 

1 hour ago, Taruseth said:

* best 4th weekend this year, but I hope it can get a higher weekend, hopefully slightly above 500k but to be honest I doubt it.

 

I think he's probably on the low end of WE projection. While the IM to reach 450k would be the 2nd biggest yet it would still be far below LW:

 

Thursday

 

IM

WE

 

WE1

110

 

x13,00

1.430

 

WE2

70

-36,36%

x13,44

941

-34,20%

WE3

43

-38,57%

x16,47

708

-24,76%

WE4

32,5

-24,42%

x13,85

450

-36,44%

 

500k would need x15,4 which (after LW) seems reachable, though I don't know if this x16+ was just an outlier and this WE it normalises. Maybe because of the competition of Jumanji2 it won't come as high LW?

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On 12/13/2019 at 12:56 PM, Aristis said:

 

 

I think he's probably on the low end of WE projection. While the IM to reach 450k would be the 2nd biggest yet it would still be far below LW:

 

Thursday

 

 

 

IM

 

 

WE

 

 

 

WE1

 

 

110

 

 

 

x13,00

 

 

1.430

 

 

 

WE2

 

 

70

 

 

-36,36%

 

 

x13,44

 

 

941

 

 

-34,20%

 

 

WE3

 

 

43

 

 

-38,57%

 

 

x16,47

 

 

708

 

 

-24,76%

 

 

WE4

 

 

32,5

 

 

-24,42%

 

 

x13,85

 

 

450

 

 

-36,44%

 

 

 

500k would need x15,4 which (after LW) seems reachable, though I don't know if this x16+ was just an outlier and this WE it normalises. Maybe because of the competition of Jumanji2 it won't come as high LW?

 

Last weekend was Nikolaus on Friday, and gift cards are a pretty common present, so SAT/SUN might have been boosted for that reason. 

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3rd trend by insidekino.de

Frozen II: 475k (-33%)

Jumanji 2: 385k

Geheimnis: 145k (-28%)

Last Christmas: 72.5k (-17%)

Rabe Socke: 47.5k

Hustlers: 40k (-35%)

Black Christmas: 30k

Joker: 25k (-38%)

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