BO Germany/Austria: Dune 2 fine 2nd weekend

[IndustriousAngel]

In Austria, NWH had about 108k (and that's only Fri-Sun), that's fantastic and even better than in Germany. I guess there was a triple reason for this massive OW:

- first movie-weekend after lockdown

- no competition

- both following weekends are a bit awkward movie-wise, bad alignment of holidays this year

 

so let's see how this plays out but while those following weekends will be a lot softer, I can't see a complete drop from the map - this should be a fine run all through January (if we're not into our next lockdown by then ...)

[IndustriousAngel]

Germany's Top12 last weekend:

	title	admissions		th.	PTA	total adm.	total €	drop	week
1	Spider-Man 3	814.942		589	1.384	967.751	10.118.541	-	1
2	House of Gucci	93.006		624	149	488.304	4.926.690	-28	3
3	Encanto	51.860		446	116	306.178	2.358.024	-14	4
4	Clifford the Big Red Dog	43.950		480	92	141.347	1.006.702	-2	3
5	Lauras Stern	23.059		564	41	59.043	416.110	-18	2
6	A Boy Called Chrismas	19.496		519	38	139.860	971.099	+5	5
7	West Side Story	17.211		388	44	51.131	492.825	-26	2
8	No Time To Die	17.206		363	47	5.934.312	64.406.533	-37	12
9	Die Schule der magischen Tiere	13.422		417	32	1.437.791	9.955.960	-20	10
10	Contra	12.503		397	31	622.768	5.497.299	-27	8
11	Ghostbusters: Afterlife	10.630		370	29	273.426	2.421.237	-56	5
12	Venom 2	6.606		165	40	1.116.681	10.782.900	-54	9

Excellent opening for Spidey's No Way Home and good holds all around - perfect weekend!

Next weekend: The Matrix Resurrections will open on a holiday-depressed weekend; a difficult task! Presales are looking good (though not on the scale of Spider-Man) and something in the 400-500k OW range might be possible. Family movies should, again, profit from christmas and maybe even increase.

[charlie Jatinder]

1330k Week 1. 

 

150k 2nd Thu 👀 

4M+ is a really solid possibility. May be even 4.5M.

 

Endgame on Xmas would have made 7M+ easily 

 

[IndustriousAngel]

weekend estimates from insidekino.de have Spidey at 525k for the weekend, MAtrix 190k incl previews - poor number, going by my cinema I had hoped for at least double that number. Family releases worse than I expected ...

[Danhjpn]

1 minute ago, IndustriousAngel said:

weekend estimates from insidekino.de have Spidey at 525k for the weekend, MAtrix 190k incl previews - poor number, going by my cinema I had hoped for at least double that number. Family releases worse than I expected ...

Last week FSS ~800k?

[George Parr]

2 hours ago, Danhjpn said:

Last week FSS ~800k?

German weekend numbers include the Thursdays as well.

From what I can gather, Wednesday was ~150k, Thursday 125k, and the entire weekend (TFSS) ~815k. So FSS would be about 690k.

[George Parr]

3 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

 

Endgame on Xmas would have made 7M+ easily

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

 

Marvel is a growing franchise in Germany, but it still has a somewhat limited audience at this point. Move Endgame from April/May to christmas, and all you might get is the opening being lower, stretching the same audience over a longer period. Endgame already reached people Marvel usually didn't get thanks to breaking records everywhere. I don't think that there were that many people left who had any interest in it.

 

It's not like Spiderman is currently doing something it has never done before. The first Tobey Maguire Spiderman topped 5m admissions back in 2002, the two sequels came in at 3.2m each.

[charlie Jatinder]

10 minutes ago, George Parr said:

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

 

Marvel is a growing franchise in Germany, but it still has a somewhat limited audience at this point. Move Endgame from April/May to christmas, and all you might get is the opening being lower, stretching the same audience over a longer period. Endgame already reached people Marvel usually didn't get thanks to breaking records everywhere. I don't think that there were that many people left who had any interest in it.

 

It's not like Spiderman is currently doing something it has never done before. The first Tobey Maguire Spiderman topped 5m admissions back in 2002, the two sequels came in at 3.2m each.

Agree on all accounts. Just that without XMAS I don't think NWH would have done 3M even. 

[LPLC]

53 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Agree on all accounts. Just that without XMAS I don't think NWH would have done 3M even. 

But 3M aren't locked yet in Germany I think, no ?

[IndustriousAngel]

2 hours ago, LPLC said:

But 3M aren't locked yet in Germany I think, no ?

the only thing stopping Spidey would be a new lockdown because of the Omicron strain, otherwise I can't see it missing 3mil, with two weeks of holidays coming and good WOM.

[LPLC]

1 hour ago, IndustriousAngel said:

the only thing stopping Spidey would be a new lockdown because of the Omicron strain, otherwise I can't see it missing 3mil, with two weeks of holidays coming and good WOM.

What do you think ? 3,5M-4M ?

[charlie Jatinder]

11 hours ago, LPLC said:

But 3M aren't locked yet in Germany I think, no ?

Easy peasy. 3rd weekend possibly.

[LPLC]

2. Trend:
Spider-Man - No Way Home (375T), Matrix Resurrections (145T), House of Gucci (35T), Encanto (30T), Clifford, der große rote Hund (22,5T).

 

From 525k to 375k for NWH. What happened ? I hope 3M are still on the table with a big drop like this.

[john2000]

30 minutes ago, LPLC said:

2. Trend:
Spider-Man - No Way Home (375T), Matrix Resurrections (145T), House of Gucci (35T), Encanto (30T), Clifford, der große rote Hund (22,5T).

 

From 525k to 375k for NWH. What happened ? I hope 3M are still on the table with a big drop like this.

(many theaters are closed today or have limited showtimes and Christmas day is also very slow)

 

thats what mark said 2 days ago so maybe it was overestimated,lets see how the final trend is.

[LPLC]

13 hours ago, john2000 said:

(many theaters are closed today or have limited showtimes and Christmas day is also very slow)

 

thats what mark said 2 days ago so maybe it was overestimated,lets see how the final trend is.

it went down again ... 360k for NWH

[john2000]

Just now, LPLC said:

it went down again ... 360k for NWH

I see oh well,its fine i guess

[Aristis]

NWH had around 360k 2nd WE (-56% from the 4-day WE) and reached 1,69M admissions. MarkG predicts it'll reach 2M on Tuesday. Also he explained why the first Trend was much higher: the last time we had this holiday pattern was 2010 and back then Sunday was the biggest day and Thursday and Saturday were about equal, so he assumed it would be like that again. But this time Thursday was the strongest day and Sat/Sun much weaker, which couldn't really be predicted. 

 

Matrix 103 (4-day) / 142,5k (5-day) 

[LPLC]

1 minute ago, Aristis said:

NWH had around 360k 2nd WE (-56% from the 4-day WE) and reached 1,69M admissions. MarkG predicts it'll reach 2M on Tuesday. Also he explained why the first Trend was much higher: the last time we had this holiday pattern was 2010 and back then Sunday was the biggest day and Thursday and Saturday were about equal, so he assumed it would be like that again. But this time Thursday was the strongest day and Sat/Sun much weaker, which couldn't really be predicted. 

 

Matrix 103 (4-day) / 142,5k (5-day) 

Ok I hope 3M are still possible despite this big drop

[Aristis]

8 minutes ago, LPLC said:

Ok I hope 3M are still possible despite this big drop

Atm I don't see reaching 3M at danger. If it reaches 2M on Tuesday than it should be around 2,5M+ after next WE. Though I hope cinemas won't be closed early next year - that might be the only thing that could prevent NWH from reaching 3M.

[LPLC]

2 minutes ago, Aristis said:

Atm I don't see reaching 3M at danger. If it reaches 2M on Tuesday than it should be around 2,5M+ after next WE. Though I hope cinemas won't be closed early next year - that might be the only thing that could prevent NWH from reaching 3M.

Could you see an end at 4M ?