Lightyear | Pixar's First Theatrical Release !!! (But, Floppppped) 😑😑😑 | $112.3M DOM $204.5M WW

[Purple Minion]

Underperforming in US/Canada, may be beaten by the dinos. Is Disney going to release any intl' numbers before Sunday?

[across the Jat verse]

So Lightyear is Pixar's first box office FLOP?

[pepsa]

1 minute ago, charlie Jatinder said:

So Lightyear is Pixar's first box office FLOP?

The Good dinosaur might also qualify as a flop, maybe? It did $332m on a $175m budget.

[Purple Minion]

If we exclude Onwards and the pandemic releases, the lowest grossing Pixar movie WW is The Good Dinosaur, followed by.... the original Toy Story at $365.2M. Can you image if Buzz makes less than that.

[Issac Newton]

13 hours ago, Purple Minion said:

If we exclude Onwards and the pandemic releases, the lowest grossing Pixar movie WW is The Good Dinosaur, followed by.... the original Toy Story at $365.2M. Can you image if Buzz makes less than that.

Budget should be like us

 

Spirited Away : $19M / $410M*

Demon Slayer : $15M / $518M

Jujutsu Kaisen : $12M / $212M

Weathering With You : $8M / $205M

Your Name : $6M / $385M*

 

*Final estimate 

 

Notes -

Your Name : $384.69M (38 territories)

Spirited Away : $407.55M (78 territories)

 

This is called Profit 😭😭😭😭😭

[Taruseth]

18 hours ago, pepsa said:

The Good dinosaur might also qualify as a flop, maybe? It did $332m on a $175m budget.

The only thing that might save this from coming in below that is the US - in Germany Good Dinosaur did around 750k admissions and €5.3m (according to BOM $5.6m - but I am thinking it should be closer to $6m).

I think Lightyear might end up with around 300k admissions (€2.8m ≈ $3m), so half of that (that would need a 4.6x - for comp Zoomania did a 5.57x, Good Dinosaur 4.83x, Inside Out 5.46x (recent movies like Encanto are hard to count, it had a 8.2 but only of a 83k weekend (while Good Dinosaur did 156k, Inside Out 642k and Zoomania 690k )) - sequels in the past have done:

Frozen 2 4.74x (but that of a gigantic 1430k OWend - in admissions only about 14 % below Endgame and 3 % above TROS, in $ about 38% below Endgame)

Incredibles 2 5.21x

Toy Story 4 3.79x (902k of a 238k OWend - so pretty bad already).

 

So I'd say 300k aren't even assured yet. 

 

(Frozen 2 was really big 6782k admissions (with the 4767k of Frozen, the two have 11549k admissions) , the four Toy Story movies together have 7970k).

The sad thing Minions alone had 6945k admissions back in 2015.

Edited June 19, 2022 by Taruseth

[Issac Newton]

Lightyear grossed an estimated $34.6M internationally this weekend, including debuts of $8.1M in Mexico & $4.0M in the U.K. Estimated global total through Sunday stands at $85.6M.#Lightyear #BoxOffice

— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) June 19, 2022

[across the Jat verse]

8 hours ago, Issac Newton said:

Budget should be like us

 

Spirited Away : $19M / $410M*

Demon Slayer : $15M / $518M

Jujutsu Kaisen : $12M / $212M

Weathering With You : $8M / $205M

Your Name : $6M / $385M*

 

*Final estimate 

 

Notes -

Your Name : $384.69M (38 territories)

Spirited Away : $407.55M (78 territories)

 

This is called Profit 😭😭😭😭😭

If a film is grossing $400M, it's budget can't be $6M.

Releasing a film on infrastructure to gross $400M cost money and even after all that.

If the returns are so high, the key talent involved like say director is def taking $50M+. 

[John Marston]

3 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

Lightyear grossed an estimated $34.6M internationally this weekend, including debuts of $8.1M in Mexico & $4.0M in the U.K. Estimated global total through Sunday stands at $85.6M.#Lightyear #BoxOffice

— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) June 19, 2022

 

 

[Carlangonz]

No way to spin terrible results in Mexico and UK; both powerhouses ($60M+) for Toy Story 3 and 4

[Brainbug]

100M OS is in grave danger. This is now epic flop-territory.

[Issac Newton]

24 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

If a film is grossing $400M, it's budget can't be $6M.

Releasing a film on infrastructure to gross $400M cost money and even after all that.

If the returns are so high, the key talent involved like say director is def taking $50M+. 

Talking about Your Name (I guess)

 

Production Cost : ¥450M

Advertising Cost : ¥300M

 

Director's Salary is 5% of Production cost i.e. ¥20M. Their returns are more in Home media, Shinkai earn less than ¥200M if you include Home Media sales.

 

Real winner here is the distributor TOHO &Studio. 

[across the Jat verse]

30 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

Talking about Your Name (I guess)

 

Production Cost : ¥450M

Advertising Cost : ¥300M

 

Director's Salary is 5% of Production cost i.e. ¥20M. Their returns are more in Home media, Shinkai earn less than ¥200M if you include Home Media sales.

 

Real winner here is the distributor TOHO &Studio. 

For one film sure Director may get less but for next one the talent fees will come around for matching revenue.

 

Indian films may have budget of ₹40-50cr, the talent cost could be ₹150cr+ 

[Issac Newton]

39 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

For one film sure Director may get less but for next one the talent fees will come around for matching revenue.

Actually, Reputation of Talent is fixed. When a film like Your Name reached success. Budget is a increase a bit more to increase the talent cost. But, the problem is that Talent doesn't earn royalties after release (whether film flop or exceed expectations) The ultimate winner will be Distributor (earning 60% of Domestic Gross) &Studio earning (40% of OS gross + remaining Domestic Gross - Budget).

 

Outside Miyazaki, no directors have earned ¥1.0B from theatrical release. Home Media is their only source of income. ¥88M per 1M DVD sales. Voice Actors earned less than ¥100K. For Live-action, ¥200K-¥800K. That's why ¥1.0B is commerical success for any release. 

 

The problem is that Studio recognise your level/power/art only when Disney/Warner Bros knows you. These things upstick the budget. But made commercial losses too. Like The Wind Rises, was at loss even when it's global gross was close to $140M. Though, budget is said to be $35M but still it's at commerical loss, so only Studio knows it's true budget.

[Purple Minion]

It's still the #1 OW for an animated release in Latin America during the pandemic era, but this feels so... underwhelming. Specially in the rest of the world.

 

#Cries in Zurg

 

Edited June 19, 2022 by Purple Minion

[Purple Minion]

Other OW markets, including Colombia.

 

 

[MG10]

33 minutes ago, Purple Minion said:

Other OW markets, including Colombia.

 

 

 

Is Columbia the official english name for Colombia?

[Purple Minion]

Nope, some US media just keep making that mistake, confusing it with the District.

[MG10]

2 minutes ago, Purple Minion said:

Nope, some US media just keep making that mistake, confusing it with the District.

 

I'm baffed 😐

[BruiseCruise]

WRT to anime movies payout, on the Demon Slayer movie, iirc the mangaka of the series only got paid $19k 

Edited June 19, 2022 by BruiseCruise