Fullbuster Posted April 10, 2019 Author Share Posted April 10, 2019 TUESDAY 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 Is Captain Marvel guaranteed to pass Minions? I saw 300k tickets for last weekend on Adorocinema, is that for the week or only the weekend? If it's whole week might be close, considering around 400k for the next 2 weeks (assuming it's going to vanish from teathers after Endgame opens) and apparently the average ticket price in R$ for it is around 16, so it's going to add around 6.4 million, which is just under Minions. Of course, I am just guessing the 400k, so I'd like to know how close you guys think I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 15 hours ago, ThiagoMaia said: Is Captain Marvel guaranteed to pass Minions? I saw 300k tickets for last weekend on Adorocinema, is that for the week or only the weekend? If it's whole week might be close, considering around 400k for the next 2 weeks (assuming it's going to vanish from teathers after Endgame opens) and apparently the average ticket price in R$ for it is around 16, so it's going to add around 6.4 million, which is just under Minions. Of course, I am just guessing the 400k, so I'd like to know how close you guys think I am. Passing minions? in local currency? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 hours ago, Fullbuster said: Passing minions? in local currency? Yes. This is the list I have: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_filmes_de_maior_bilheteria#Filmes_mais_vistos_no_Brasil I just notice that in your earlier post you had way different numbers. Where do you get yours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 46 minutes ago, ThiagoMaia said: Yes. This is the list I have: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lista_de_filmes_de_maior_bilheteria#Filmes_mais_vistos_no_Brasil I just notice that in your earlier post you had way different numbers. Where do you get yours? From here: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilheteria_de_cinema_no_Brasil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Fullbuster said: From here: https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilheteria_de_cinema_no_Brasil Hmm, ok, so that's weird. Both are on wikipedia, and I remember seeing that Age of Ultron number on the list I have some time ago, but it was edited. Don't know how to get a confirmation for a more official number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 Box Office Mojo has its cume at about R$149.5M on the last weekend of what they show as its main run: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2015&wk=27¤cy=local&p=.htm But then it shows up for 2 weeks in October 2015 out of the blue, making less than R$1000 on the weekends but now with a R$187M cume. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2015&wk=42¤cy=local&p=.htm So, they don’t have a very clear picture either 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, ThiagoMaia said: Hmm, ok, so that's weird. Both are on wikipedia, and I remember seeing that Age of Ultron number on the list I have some time ago, but it was edited. Don't know how to get a confirmation for a more official number. Ok, the link that I sent has as it's source for ultron Box Office Mojo, for Brazil this weekend in local currency: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?currency=local&yr=2015&wk=42&p=new, which is the last weekend that BOM has for weekly grosses that includes Ultron. In that weekend it lists Brazilian gross as 187.6m LC, which is the value the link I listed has. Before that weekend there was another which includes Ultron (October 9-11, 2015) at 180m, the following weekend on which it is pumped to 187m has 0 BRL as the weekend gross (which would seem to indicate some kind of revision. Before that, Ultron is not listed in any weekends after July 3-5, 2015, at which point it had 149m LC. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2015&wk=27¤cy=local&p=.htm A couple of weekends before (June 19-21, 2015) it had a decrease of 600k, after a 300k weekend which would also indicate a revision. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2015&wk=25¤cy=local&p=.htm Civil War is much weider, being revised downards multiple times after this weekend: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2016&wk=24¤cy=local&p=.htm which seems to be the peak, at 148m, down to 130m at a sudden weekend of October. I couldn't find for either movie a value identical to that of the yearly page on wikipedia, on any of the weekends, and as the yearly page doesn't cite sources, I don't know where they got their numbers. The ranking on the general page I linked to seems to always point to the last weekend of the movie on mojo. I don't know how reliable that is either, and have no idea how a movie could be revised 18 million down, or 30 million up, so it seems sketchy too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said: Box Office Mojo has its cume at about R$149.5M on the last weekend of what they show as its main run: https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2015&wk=27¤cy=local&p=.htm But then it shows up for 2 weeks in October 2015 out of the blue, making less than R$1000 on the weekends but now with a R$187M cume. https://www.boxofficemojo.com/intl/brazil/?yr=2015&wk=42¤cy=local&p=.htm So, they don’t have a very clear picture either Hehe, we were doing the same thing. Should we inoke Rth to try and clarify this? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 The list of spectators seems to align closer, and it's based on the last weekend of data from adorocinema, both my and @Fullbuster's links from wikipedia have the same value for attendance for Age of Ultron. I hypothesized that the money value on the yearly list could be the number of spectators multiplied by some average ticket price, but they don't fit that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 11, 2019 Author Share Posted April 11, 2019 WEDNESDAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Apollo2xx Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Fullbuster said: WEDNESDAY Strange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 7 hours ago, ThiagoMaia said: The list of spectators seems to align closer, and it's based on the last weekend of data from adorocinema, both my and @Fullbuster's links from wikipedia have the same value for attendance for Age of Ultron. I hypothesized that the money value on the yearly list could be the number of spectators multiplied by some average ticket price, but they don't fit that. BOM adjusts the exchange rate of a film-country combi, if it differs from earlier rates whilst/during adding late announced / late arriving income. Sometimes years later, like income per a film festival whatever the reason. Minutes from going to bed, I hope I make sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted April 12, 2019 Author Share Posted April 12, 2019 10 hours ago, Apollo2xx said: Strange. You mean them giving info faster than earler? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 14 hours ago, terrestrial said: BOM adjusts the exchange rate of a film-country combi, if it differs from earlier rates whilst/during adding late announced / late arriving income. Sometimes years later, like income per a film festival whatever the reason. Minutes from going to bed, I hope I make sense Hmm, can you elaborate? Not sure I understood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 26 minutes ago, ThiagoMaia said: Hmm, can you elaborate? Not sure I understood. BOM uses the exchange rate of the day it adds new data for the whole run of a movie in a country. So lets assume a festival 2 years after its theatrical run adds more income, BOM opens up the county's sum for that movie, adds the money and does a recalculation based on the later exchange rate. As so many currencies go down, lots of countries seem to loose sometimes more than $20m for a certain movie on BOM paper only 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiagoMaia Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 2 minutes ago, terrestrial said: BOM uses the exchange rate of the day it adds new data for the whole run of a movie in a country. So lets assume a festival 2 years after its theatrical run adds more income, BOM opens up the county's sum for that movie, adds the money and does a recalculation based on the later exchange rate. As so many currencies go down, lots of countries seem to loose sometimes more than $20m for a certain movie on BOM paper only Ah, I see. That's crazy! But then, do you think they go from dollars to reais, or vice versa? Because if it's the latter, the R$ info would be accurate. Also, there must be somewhere we can get accurate info on this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Comscore Movies BRA @cSMoviesBrazil 20s20 seconds ago More TOP 10 #bilheteria #cinema QUINTA: 1. De Pernas Pro Ar 3 2. Shazam! 3. Superação - O Milagre da Fe 4. After 5. Capitã Marvel 6. Dumbo 7. A Cinco Passos De Você 8. Duas Rainhas 9. Nós 10. O Tradutor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 Just now, ThiagoMaia said: Ah, I see. That's crazy! But then, do you think they go from dollars to reais, or vice versa? Because if it's the latter, the R$ info would be accurate. Also, there must be somewhere we can get accurate info on this... They do it for all countries... it drives me and a lot others here at BOT nuts! I use a lot a German website Insidekino.de or Insidekino.com (both should work) 2019 is still a bit empty at a first glance, but it is up to date (last weekend) http://www.insidekino.com/BO/BR2019.htm http://www.insidekino.com/BO/BR2018.htm http://www.insidekino.com/BO/BR2017.htm Problem: they use the German titles. E.g. Der weiße Hai = Jaws I copy the title, fill it in at IMDb and get the English title (IMDb allws to search per official additional names, a lot seem not to know that) Or you can ask or .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legion Again Posted April 12, 2019 Share Posted April 12, 2019 It’s not an exchange rate issue this time @terrestrial. The data we’re struggling with is the local currency totals, which are usually fine on BOM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
