Issac Newton Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorkingonaName Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Dont see Italy in the top 3 everyday. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agafin Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 The good news about the movie is that it is dropping hardest in its lowest grossing markets. Legs should be good now since only leggy European markets are still contributing to it's run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 16 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: Dont see Italy in the top 3 everyday. Japan will kick us out, but depending on the legs we might remain in top 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Some nice recovery to overseas number thanks to European and LATAM. The domestic to overseas ratio improved a bit to 57:43 from 58:42 in OW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Valonqar said: Gitesh is unnecessarily pessimistic IMO. Summer will be kind to weekday drops and considering that TLM's main market is Europe which tends to be more stable and loyal, it's going to have a smaller drop next week when Japan is added. So in 30s range. I get that it's looks disappointing compared to movies that open with 200M OS and go down to 42M weekend in their 5th-6th week but the bigger picture here is that solid market can tide a movie over and that's what's happening with TLM thanks to Europe. Agreed, next week hold should be better than this week since Japan opens. With China and SK already completely dead, those drops won't hamper TLM much longer and with leggier market holding steady like Europe and to a lesser extent Latin America, legs will be strong through the summer. Japan is the wild card, it could be 20-30M or it blows up like Aladdin/B&TB we will see next week. Edited June 4, 2023 by druv10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valonqar Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 3 minutes ago, druv10 said: Agreed, next week hold should be better than this week since Japan opens. With China and SK already completely dead, those drops won't hamper TLM much longer and with leggier market holding steady like Europe and to a lesser extent Latin America. legs will be strong through the summer. Japan is the wild card, it could be 20-30M or it blows up like Aladdin/B&TB we will see next week. well said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogkalu Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 45 minutes ago, WorkingonaName said: Dont see Italy in the top 3 everyday. It dropped well in most of its big opener markets but Italy was a stand out 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Were there holidays this week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MG10 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 (edited) 39 minutes ago, ogkalu said: It dropped well in most of its big opener markets but Italy was a stand out I think we were also the only big one with an important holiday during the week, since 2 days ago there was the "Day of the Republic" 18 minutes ago, John Marston said: Were there holidays this week? If you meant Italy then yes Edited June 4, 2023 by MG10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted June 4, 2023 Share Posted June 4, 2023 Spiderverse being not so strong did help Mermaid. Its looking dire for Transformers as well looking at Korea and China PS. Flash is DC and Elemental looks DOA. Indy 5 also is not looking like a OS breakout. So until MI7 we will see tons of releases but no big breakouts internationally. May be Mermaid can do 300m OS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 China never carried F&F because the studio only gets 25% of the gross from there. So even the huge 400m grosses F7 and F8 only 100m went back to the studio (which was less than domestic). INT-China carried F&F from the 4th movie onwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) +0.4% USA/Canada -7.5% France -15.8% Brazil -17.4% United Kingdom -22.1% Germany -24.5% Mexico -27.6% Italy -31.5% Australia -35.2% Spain -71.1% South Korea -87.3% China Comps with Aladdin // Edited June 5, 2023 by Issac Newton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 East Asia (2nd WKend Drop) -68%| Hong Kong -37%| Taiwan +4% | Singapore Already knows China/Korea Drop - So, Overall not so bad in East Asia (Singapore have seen an increase). Among SEA, Indonesia dropped only 7% while Thailand dropped 59%. Hold No.1 in Philippines (defeating ATSV) Outside Asia, Poland (-10%), South Africa (-11%) &Austria(-12%) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 22 hours ago, Valonqar said: Gitesh is unnecessarily pessimistic IMO. Summer will be kind to weekday drops and considering that TLM's main market is Europe which tends to be more stable and loyal, it's going to have a smaller drop next week when Japan is added. So in 30s range. I get that it's looks disappointing compared to movies that open with 200M OS and go down to 42M weekend in their 5th-6th week but the bigger picture here is that solid market can tide a movie over and that's what's happening with TLM thanks to Europe. Not really. The TLM international numbers were very low to begin with so they didn't drop a lot - they simply didn't have a lot to drop from. The global box office will be an extremely disappointing 500-550 million with the overseas box office about 200 million. This movie was DOA. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogkalu Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Issac Newton said: East Asia (2nd WKend Drop) -68%| Hong Kong -37%| Taiwan +4% | Singapore Already knows China/Korea Drop - So, Overall not so bad in East Asia (Singapore have seen an increase). Among SEA, Indonesia dropped only 7% while Thailand dropped 59%. Hold No.1 in Philippines (defeating ATSV) Outside Asia, Poland (-10%), South Africa (-11%) &Austria(-12%) any site to track these numbers (specifically Singapore, Philippines, Indonesia, Taiwan) ? Edited June 5, 2023 by ogkalu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ando Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 2 hours ago, TEE said: Not really. The TLM international numbers were very low to begin with so they didn't drop a lot - they simply didn't have a lot to drop from. The global box office will be an extremely disappointing 500-550 million with the overseas box office about 200 million. This movie was DOA. It's at $140M after a 38% drop and $42M 2nd wknd and you think it'll stop at $200M? That's.. something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEE Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, ando said: It's at $140M after a 38% drop and $42M 2nd wknd and you think it'll stop at $200M? That's.. something. That's... a prediction. We'll see whether I'm wrong or not. I think it will make less than 10 million in Japan and that it will simply evaporate from other Asian markets. Europe won't make 30 million dollars more for this film. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogkalu Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, TEE said: That's... a prediction. We'll see whether I'm wrong or not. I think it will make less than 10 million in Japan and that it will simply evaporate from other Asian markets. Europe won't make 30 million dollars more for this film. You're going to be wrong lol. Your "prediction" makes no sense. Evidently you don't understand how trajectories work. It doesn't need Japan to hit well over 200m and i'm not even going to bother with that Europe estimate. all the asian markets it will "evaporate" in are so little now it doesn't matter Edited June 5, 2023 by ogkalu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 23 minutes ago, ogkalu said: any site to track these numbers (specifically Singapore, Philippines, Indonesia, Taiwan) ? CS for Singapore (or 8Days) Studio reported Local Currency for Philippines (Disney Philippines) Cinepoint App for Indonesia (or Bicara Box Office at Twitter) @taipeibo (FB page) for Taiwan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...