The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[jeffthehat]

21 hours ago, jeffthehat said:

 

Wonka T-4

 

Coverage - 10/33 Malco theaters

Showtimes - 33

Seats sold - 269

Seats available - 5765

New sales - 11 (+4.2%)

 

Comps

 

0.460x Marvels T-4 = $3.06m

0.525x HG BoSS T-4 = $3.02m

 

Wonka T-3

 

Coverage - 10/33 Malco theaters

Showtimes - 33

Seats sold - 293

Seats available - 5765

New sales - 24 (+8.9%)

 

Comps

 

0.475x Marvels T-3 = $3.14m

0.503x HG BoSS T-3 = $2.89m

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[Maggie]

Guys, how's Anyone but You doing?

[keysersoze123]

On 12/10/2023 at 1:58 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 85925/313013 1084240.67 2220 shows

12/26 - 21665/301818 273271.59 2121 shows

 

WOW. I have to look at MTC2 to see how big the skew it has in big markets but MTC1 is blockbuster level for its OD.  

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 93991/317030 1187778.93 2244 shows

12/26 - 23488/304540 296386.00 2131 shows

 

Still WOW. This kind of pace this far ahead is nuts for sure. 

[keysersoze123]

Couple of Christmas day BO @M37

MTC1 12/25

Wonka(Day 11) - 10334/267406 120755.00 1754 shows

Aquaman 2(Day 4) - 7412/599935 114877.02 3300 shows

 

MTC2 12/25

Wonka - 12398/173397 121196.03 1438 shows

Aquaman 2 - 6793/233158 74118.92 1701 shows

 

Wonka is going to have a great holiday run for sure. Even Aquabro will have a good multi compared to other DCEU disasters. 

[abracadabra1998]

22 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Wonka (T-4):

Day: T-4	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 18 theaters	89	67	366	17055	2.15

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		273	38	74.59
MTC1:		223	45	60.93
Marcus:		38	0	10.38
Alamo:		49	5	13.39
Other chains:		56	17	15.3

 

Comps:

0.09x Barbie (THU): $1.96 Million

1.41x Wish (TUE): $2.53 Million

2.86x Trolls Band Together: $3.72 Million

1.18x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $3.67 Million

0.35x Hunger Games: $2 Million

0.31x Indiana Jones: $2.2 Million

 

Average: $2.68 Million

 

Added Trolls as a comp, otherwise the average dropped compared to last update. To Key's point, if we compare it with the family fare (Haunted Mansion, Wish, Trolls), it's looking a lot better. We shall see what the final week looks like, I'll give daily updates from now on, but it needs to start doing a lot better in non-MTC1 chains.

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Wonka (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 18 theaters	91	69	435	17373	2.5

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		313	40	71.95
MTC1:		259	36	59.54
Marcus:		43	5	9.89
Alamo:		59	10	13.56
Other chains:		74	18	17.01

 

Comps:

0.09x Barbie (THU): $1.81 Million

1.45x Wish (TUE): $2.62 Million

2.81x Trolls Band Together: $3.65 Million

1.17x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $3.62 Million

0.35x Hunger Games: $2.01 Million

0.3x Indiana Jones: $2.17 Million

 

Average: $2.65 Million

 

Average still dropping slightly, but the PLF share is still very robust (higher than Hunger Games, for example).

[MovieMan89]

Would be cool to see TCP just go crazy and hit 25+ or something for Xmas day. I am rooting for the TCP/Wonka/Migration trio to all hit 200, that would actually be a great holiday season (with Wonka significantly higher)

[abracadabra1998]

On 12/7/2023 at 10:21 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Christmas Day:

 

The Color Purple (T-18):

Day: T-18	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	66	197	679	7122	9.53

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		0	0	0
MTC1:		300	87	44.18
Marcus:		107	15	15.76
Alamo:		42	2	6.19
Other chains:		230	93	33.87

 

Comps:

4.3x Wonka: ???

2.28x Killers of the Flower Moon: $5.92 Million

1.09x FNAF: $11.21 Million

0.63x Oppy: $6.57 Million

MI7: Missed

0.76x Barbie (THU): $16.2 Million

 

Average: $9.98 Million

 

THE COLOR PURPLE SWEEP!!!! Jokes and some very questionable comps aside, I mostly just wanted to show just how bonkers this is doing. 197 over the last three days is just insane. A couple of theaters have gotten the memo and significantly expanded their sets, but most haven't, and I really think this will run into some huge capacity issues because of the Christmas screen crunch. Still, you just love to see it!

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Christmas Day:

 

The Color Purple (T-14):

Day: T-14	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	66	418	1097	7122	15.4

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		38	38	3.46
MTC1:		457	157	41.66
Marcus:		159	52	14.49
Alamo:		140	98	12.76
Other chains:		341	111	31.08

 

Comps:

5.71x Wonka: ???

3.26x Killers of the Flower Moon: $8.46 Million

1.34x FNAF: $13.81 Million

0.83x Oppy: $8.71 Million

1.87x MI7: $13.1 Million

0.87x Barbie (THU): $18.47 Million

 

Average: $12.51 Million

 

 

So basically in the last four days it sold here almost the same that Wonka has sold in its entire run... this doesn't seem real lmao. I concur with @Porthos on the ATP concerns (matinee tickets plus virtually no PLF, though that might change a bit from now on), but I am waiting on others more knowledgeable than me to speak on exactly what adjustment to make. Still though, pure insanity

[keysersoze123]

30 minutes ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Christmas Day:

 

The Color Purple (T-14):

Day: T-14	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	66	418	1097	7122	15.4

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		38	38	3.46
MTC1:		457	157	41.66
Marcus:		159	52	14.49
Alamo:		140	98	12.76
Other chains:		341	111	31.08

 

Comps:

5.71x Wonka: ???

3.26x Killers of the Flower Moon: $8.46 Million

1.34x FNAF: $13.81 Million

0.83x Oppy: $8.71 Million

1.87x MI7: $13.1 Million

0.87x Barbie (THU): $18.47 Million

 

Average: $12.51 Million

 

 

So basically in the last four days it sold here almost the same that Wonka has sold in its entire run... this doesn't seem real lmao. I concur with @Porthos on the ATP concerns (matinee tickets plus virtually no PLF, though that might change a bit from now on), but I am waiting on others more knowledgeable than me to speak on exactly what adjustment to make. Still though, pure insanity

Are you comparing this to previews? This is opening on a holiday is just opening day and not previews. Plus this has way lower ATP to blockbusters. 

[Manny G]

So yesterday at the movie there was a very cute WB trailer  encompassing Wonka, Aquamomoa and TCP, it was pretty much;  this Christmas come celebrate the holiday with WB then ineterlooped footage of their 3 movies. I thought it was very cute.
 

With everyone and their mama trying to cringely remake Barberneimher WB definitely showed a lot of restraint not having a full blown ”The Color Purple of the Wonkaman” marketing campaign.

Edited December 12, 2023 by Manny G

[Flip]

2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 93991/317030 1187778.93 2244 shows

12/26 - 23488/304540 296386.00 2131 shows

 

Still WOW. This kind of pace this far ahead is nuts for sure. 

there's obv a big drop off on the 26th, but for context it's a little below Friday for Wonka with much more to go, it's not like there's no sales past Christmas Day

[Grand Cine]

2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 93991/317030 1187778.93 2244 shows

12/26 - 23488/304540 296386.00 2131 shows

 

Still WOW. This kind of pace this far ahead is nuts for sure. 

I saw little comparaisons and i saw for OD that he is already at 61% of TLM Friday T-3 , at 69% of Friday T-0 of Hunger Games and at 65% of the Marvels T-0 , if the comp hold , the OD will be maybe a low 20's which is stunning.

 

The day post christmas is a big drop but the number is good also , i think the movie will pass the century mark due to holidays + WOM

[TalismanRing]

NYC Regal Local

 

Wonka and AQ2 pre-sales so far are anemic

Each on 6 screens with 3 RPX and 1863 seats for Thur previews. 

 

Wonka: 12 tickets

AQ2  (12.21) -  3 tickets

Dunki  (12.21) -  19 tickets

Salar: (12.21) -  3 tickets

Color Purple: (12.25) - 30 tickets

Migration : (12.25) - 0 tickets

 

So low for Wonka it's not  yet worth doing comps.  But comparatively, The Marvels - 91, Ghostbusters - 36 and Ruby Gillman - 4 on their respective Mondays.

[abracadabra1998]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Are you comparing this to previews? This is opening on a holiday is just opening day and not previews. Plus this has way lower ATP to blockbusters. 

Yes, I have basically no comp numbers for Opening Day for other movies, so for my numbers I have to compare it to previews. Not great I know. How much lower are you seeing ATP compared to the average blockbuster?

[Relevation]

3 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Christmas Day:

 

The Color Purple (T-14):

Day: T-14	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 16 theaters	66	418	1097	7122	15.4

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		38	38	3.46
MTC1:		457	157	41.66
Marcus:		159	52	14.49
Alamo:		140	98	12.76
Other chains:		341	111	31.08

 

Comps:

5.71x Wonka: ???

3.26x Killers of the Flower Moon: $8.46 Million

1.34x FNAF: $13.81 Million

0.83x Oppy: $8.71 Million

1.87x MI7: $13.1 Million

0.87x Barbie (THU): $18.47 Million

 

Average: $12.51 Million

 

 

So basically in the last four days it sold here almost the same that Wonka has sold in its entire run... this doesn't seem real lmao. I concur with @Porthos on the ATP concerns (matinee tickets plus virtually no PLF, though that might change a bit from now on), but I am waiting on others more knowledgeable than me to speak on exactly what adjustment to make. Still though, pure insanity

[joselowe]

1 hour ago, Grand Cine said:

I saw little comparaisons and i saw for OD that he is already at 61% of TLM Friday T-3 , at 69% of Friday T-0 of Hunger Games and at 65% of the Marvels T-0 , if the comp hold , the OD will be maybe a low 20's which is stunning.

 

The day post christmas is a big drop but the number is good also , i think the movie will pass the century mark due to holidays + WOM

I’m not sure post Christmas will be a huge drop off. I’m in Miami and all the showings at my local theater are sold out on Christmas Day, but people who aren’t able to get into tje Christmas Day showings are seeing it a day later. I have three friends in three different states who had to get tickets for the day after since many Christmas Day showing are sold out. Also in the black community we are making this a take the whole family type of movie. 

[dallas]

Hmmm. Presales not looking great for Aquaman. I'm thinking $3-4M in previews. That should land it around a $20M opening, and a holiday multi should bring it to a $80-100M finish. 

 

I expect this to fare better overseas. It may finish over The Flash WW? 

 

Question: is there typically a higher amount of walkups during the holiday season? It would make sense if that were the case, but I haven't been around long enough to know for sure. 

[TwoMisfits]

26 minutes ago, dallas said:

Hmmm. Presales not looking great for Aquaman. I'm thinking $3-4M in previews. That should land it around a $20M opening, and a holiday multi should bring it to a $80-100M finish. 

 

I expect this to fare better overseas. It may finish over The Flash WW? 

 

Question: is there typically a higher amount of walkups during the holiday season? It would make sense if that were the case, but I haven't been around long enough to know for sure. 

 

Every day from Christmas to New Year's is like a Saturday...

[Borobudur]

‘Wonka’: Timothée Chalamet Movie Eyes $35+ Box Office Opening – Deadline

 

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Warner Bros‘ feature musical Wonka arrived on three-week-out tracking this week with a revised industry projection of $35M-$40M when it opens on Dec. 15.

 

[Speedorito]

1 hour ago, Relevation said:

I like that TCP is the film that’s actually blowing up domestically, but people are still latching on to Wonka and Migration.

[keysersoze123]

3 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

Yes, I have basically no comp numbers for Opening Day for other movies, so for my numbers I have to compare it to previews. Not great I know. How much lower are you seeing ATP compared to the average blockbuster?

if you look at Wonka or Aquabro its $18+ while Color Purple is sub $13. Main reason is 12/25 is a holiday everywhere and so matinee shows will dominate BO plus CP has limited PLF.