The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[TheFlatLannister]

On 7/14/2023 at 2:34 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

TMNT 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-18 *First 24 Hours

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
150	344	27662	1.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 12:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

EA

T-17

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
10	332	1756	18.9%

 

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

N/A

 

SELLOUTS

N/A

 

 

COMPS

T-18

*Excludes any EA

 

(0.841x) of Elemental

~$2.01M THUR Previews + gross from EA 

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

TMNT 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-17

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
150	368	27662	1.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

24

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

EA

T-16

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
10	367	1756	20.9%

 

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

35

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-17

*Excludes any EA

 

(0.876x) of Elemental

~$2.1M THUR Previews + gross from EA 

[TheFlatLannister]

On 7/14/2023 at 6:56 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

HAUNTED MANSION

 

THURSDAY Previews 

 

T-13

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
111	1397	19452	7.2%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

56

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-13

 

(0.537x) of TLM

~$5.53M THUR Previews

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

HAUNTED MANSION

 

THURSDAY Previews 

 

T-12

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
111	1434	19452	7.4%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

37

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-12

 

(0.541x) of TLM

~$5.58M THUR Previews

[TheFlatLannister]

On 7/14/2023 at 6:54 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

OPPENHEIMER

 

THURSDAY previews

 

T-6

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
103	2528	18783	13.5%

^{*Numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

307

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

COMPS

T-6

 

(1.384x) of Fast X

~$10.38M THUR Previews

 

(1.040x) of Indy 5

~$7.5M THUR Previews

 

COMP AVG: $8.94M

 

Best day since start of presales, locally 

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

OPPENHEIMER

 

THURSDAY previews

 

T-5

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
103	2615	18783	13.9%

^{*Numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

87

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

COMPS

T-5

 

(1.360x) of Fast X

~$10.20M THUR Previews

 

(1.039x) of Indy 5

~$7.47M THUR Previews

 

COMP AVG: $8.83M

[katnisscinnaplex]

48 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

TMNT 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-17

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
150	368	27662	1.3%

^{*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

24

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

EA

T-16

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
10	367	1756	20.9%

 

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

35

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

 

COMPS

T-17

*Excludes any EA

 

(0.876x) of Elemental

~$2.1M THUR Previews + gross from EA 

Does your area have any showings of the Sneak Previews on 7/29?  A lot of areas are doing two days of early access.

[TheFlatLannister]

1 minute ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

Does your area have any showings of the Sneak Previews on 7/29?  A lot of areas are doing two days of early access.

There's 10 showings on 7/29 on Fandango. I just haven't been tracking those.

 

They are selling okay just from a quick glance. 

[The Dude]

1 hour ago, TheFlatLannister said:

GREATER ORLANDO REGION

 

OPPENHEIMER

 

THURSDAY previews

 

T-5

SHOWINGS	SEATS SOLD	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD
103	2615	18783	13.9%

^{*Numbers taken as of 6:00pm EST}

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

87

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

COMPS

T-5

 

(1.360x) of Fast X

~$10.20M THUR Previews

 

(1.039x) of Indy 5

~$7.47M THUR Previews

 

COMP AVG: $8.83M

Hmm, that seems low compared to yesterday and days before…

[Porthos]

49 minutes ago, The Dude said:

Hmm, that seems low compared to yesterday and days before…

 

T-5 Saturdays are often slow(er) days, for whatever reason.

[keysersoze123]

5 hours ago, ZackM said:

 

 

Barbie Friday and Saturday

 

Friday
Theaters - 413
Showings - 3,994
Sold - 151,654
Total - 671,192
ATP - $15.89

 

Saturday
Theaters - 415
Showings - 4,007
Sold - 111,984
Total - 674,211
ATP - $15.35
 

 

 

5 hours ago, ZackM said:

 

Oppenheimer Friday and Saturday

 

Friday
Theaters - 424
Showings - 2,695
Sold - 104,089
Total - 533,173
ATP - $17.46

 

Saturday
Theaters - 425
Showings - 2,701
Sold - 100,602
Total - 533,263
ATP - $16.72
 

Amazing numbers for both. Barbie should have highest OW for this year and Oppenheimer is looking at 70m OW.

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Oppenheimer Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	75	8239	10310	2071	20.09%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2
Total Seats Added Today	163
Total Seats Sold Today	153

 

T-6 Comps:

	%		Sold T-6	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
NTTD	145.13		125	1427		0/145	21026/22453	6.36%		3737	55.42%		9.00m
Dune	181.51		93	1141		0/79	11187/12328	9.26%		2915	71.05%		9.26m
JWD	49.66		285	4170		0/223	23587/27757	15.02%		10966	18.89%		8.94m
BP2	22.75		395	9104		2/308	29023/38127	23.88%		16800	12.33%		6.37m
Ava 2	47.18		236	4390		0/184	21739/26129	16.80%		8986	23.05%		8.02m
Wick 4	109.11		154	1898		0/113	13673/15571	12.19%		5448	38.01%		9.71m
FX	132.67		81	1561		0/179	26583/28144	5.55%		4122	50.24%		9.95m
Indy 5	110.45		73	1875		0/134	18832/20707	9.05%		4767	43.44%		7.95m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Oppenheimer's current tickets sold versus that final number.

Regal:      455/3144  [14.47% sold]
Matinee:          15/81  [18.52% | 0.72% of all tickets sold]
----    
70mm:                    664/776 [+14 tickets] [32.06% of all tickets sold]
All other PLF:    1004/4494 [+98 tickets] [48.48% of all tickets sold]
Standard:            403/5040 [+41 tickets] [19.46% of all tickets sold]

 

===

 

I accidentally shorted Oppenheimer 38 tickets sold last night due to an input error on my spreadsheet.  Spent the last 10-15 min fixing everything in the charts and comps in the last post, so what is quoted is in fact correct.  But for those keeping track Oppenheimer sold 170 tickets in the region yesterday, not 132.

(a "4" was inputted as opposed to a "42")

 

Oppenheimer Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-5 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	77	8355	10556	2201	20.85%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2
Total Seats Added Today	246
Total Seats Sold Today	130

 

T-5 Comps:

	%		Sold T-5	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
NTTD	142.37		119	1546		0/145	20907/22453	6.89%		3737	58.90%		8.83m
Dune	182.81		63	1204		0/79	11124/12328	9.77%		2915	75.51%		9.32m
JWD	47.65		449	4619		0/224	23313/27932	16.54%		10966	20.07%		8.58m
BP2	23.13		412	9516		2/307	28444/37960	25.07%		16800	13.10%		6.48m
Ava 2	46.97		296	4686		0/198	22541/27227	17.21%		8986	24.49%		7.98m
Wick 4	106.64		166	2064		0/118	14480/16544	12.48%		5448	40.40%		9.49m
FX	134.62		74	1635		0/179	26509/28144	5.81%		4122	53.40%		10.10m
Indy 5	108.05		162	2037		0/134	18676/20713	9.83%		4767	46.17%		7.78m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Oppenheimer's current tickets sold versus that final number.

Regal:      487/3390  [14.37% sold]
Matinee:          15/81  [18.52% | 0.68% of all tickets sold]
----    
70mm:                   670/776 [+6 tickets] [30.44% of all tickets sold]
All other PLF:    1082/4494 [+78 tickets] [49.16% of all tickets sold]
Standard:           449/5286 [+46 tickets] [20.40% of all tickets sold]

[Porthos]

23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

Barbie Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-6 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	0	180	17188	21758	4570	21.00%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

468

NOTE:  Total seats jumped up 346 seats as a theater transferred one set of their showings to a PLF auditorium with all previously seats sold transferred over to the new seat map on a seat-for-seat basis.

 

 

T-6 Comps:

	%		Sold T-6	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
TGM	72.06		399	6342		0/271	30967/37309	17.00%		11474	39.83%		13.88m
JWD	109.59		285	4170		0/223	23587/27757	15.02%		10966	41.67%		19.73m
BA	300.46		124	1521		0/163	22454/23975	6.34%		4494	101.69%		22.53m
Ava 2	104.10		236	4390		0/184	21739/26129	16.80%		8986	50.86%		17.70m
Scream 6	426.31		63	1072		0/77	8675/9747	11.00%		3134	145.82%		24.30m
Wick 4	240.78		154	1898		0/113	13673/15571	12.19%		5448	83.88%		21.43m
GOTG3	92.36		317	4948		0/226	26866/31814	15.55%		10750	42.51%		16.16m
FX	292.76		81	1561		0/179	26583/28144	5.55%		4122	110.87%		21.96m
TLM	177.61		151	2573		0/173	21977/24550	10.48%		6561	69.65%		18.29m
AtSV	138.69		266	3295		0/142	19179/22474	14.66%		9744	46.90%		24.06m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Barbie's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:        873/5862  [14.89% sold]
Matinee:    372/2439  [15.25% | 8.14% of all tickets sold]
------------    
Wed:        380/422 [90.05% sold] [+18 tickets sold]
Thr:    4190/21336 [19.64% sold] [+450 tickets sold]

 

Barbie Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-5 days and counting

 

	Capped	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	1	180	16708	21748	5040	23.17%

 

Total Sellouts Added Today	1
Total Seats Sold Today	470

 

T-5 Comps:

	%		Sold T-5	Total Sold		Sellouts Shows	Seats Left Total Seats	Perct Sold		Final Sold	% of Final		Comp
TGM	75.74		312	6654		0/271	30655/37309	17.83%		11474	43.93%		14.59m
JWD	109.11		449	4619		0/224	23313/27932	16.54%		10966	45.96%		19.64m
BA	301.80		149	1670		0/169	22641/24311	6.87%		4494	112.15%		22.63m
Ava 2	107.55		296	4686		0/198	22541/27227	17.21%		8986	56.09%		18.28m
Scream 6	439.41		75	1147		0/77	8600/9747	11.77%		3134	160.82%		25.05m
Wick 4	244.19		166	2064		0/118	14480/16544	12.48%		5448	92.51%		21.73m
GOTG3	96.68		265	5213		0/226	26601/31814	16.39%		10750	46.88%		16.92m
FX	308.26		74	1635		0/179	26509/28144	5.81%		4122	122.27%		23.12m
TLM	186.87		124	2697		0/175	22324/25021	10.78%		6561	76.82%		19.25m
AtSV	141.06		278	3573		0/142	18901/22474	15.90%		9744	51.72%		24.47m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Barbie's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

Regal:     1009/5862  [17.21% sold]
Matinee:    415/2439  [17.02% | 8.23% of all tickets sold]
------------    
Wed:         385/422 [91.23% sold] [+5 tickets sold]
Thr:    4655/21326 [21.83% sold] [+465 tickets sold]

 

===

 

Practically flat from Friday is (yet another) great sign for Barbie.

[vale9001]

 

 

Coming for the Harry Potter WB record?.  

 

 

Edited July 16, 2023 by vale9001

[Bobzaruni]

30 minutes ago, vale9001 said:

 

 

Coming for the Harry Potter WB record?.  

 

 

It's certainly possible but this dude has no additional information as far as I remember, he's the same dude who said Spider-Verse would leg to 500M

[vale9001]

15 minutes ago, Bobzaruni said:

It's certainly possible but this dude has no additional information as far as I remember, he's the same dude who said Spider-Verse would leg to 500M

 

yeah of course it's just one of the many here with their predictions.

 

for spider man total nobody had prior informations so that prediction of course was more personal feeling than numbers. 

[reddevil19]

Yesterday I was in a group with 6 others. In total, 6 men, one woman. In the UK. The woman is early 30's, Middle Eastern, of the guys, 4 white (one 18-year-old, 1 36 year old and two 40-year-olds), 1 black(mid-20's), 1 Indian descent(late 30's).

The black guy asked who's seeing Oppenheimer. All the men bar one of the white guys (40), who has no interest in movies at all said yes, with 2 of them going for the BFI IMAX. The woman said she'll be checking out Barbie, even though she's not really into movies, and the 18-year-old said he and a group of 6 mates are doing the Barbenheimer double feature. 2 of the guys also mentioned just how omni-present Barbie marketing is and that they may check it out during its theatrical run.

 

It was quite amusing to me just how much that small sample hit within the expectations: 30+ old males go for Nolan. Woman that doesn't normally give two shits either way goes for Barbie and the young guy that spends most of his time online is doing both. It's insane just how these two movies are the amalgamation of a gigantic 4-quad hit. It also reinforced the idea that more casuals will be crossing to Barbie than to Oppenheimer if they just do one film, and I would be shocked if Oppy's demo isn't like 70-30 male-female split as a minimum.

[Fanboy]

As a 26 year old gay Australian male some of my straight male friends who aren't big film buffs but enjoy movies casually are interested in seeing Barbie. In fact a tv spot for Oppenheimer came on during a big rugby game we were watching Wednesday night and there was probably a 60/40 split in people that wanted to see Oppenheimer vs Barbie and most were open to the idea of seeing both when I suggested a Barbenheimer double feature. I think Barbie is going to see a decent demo split with male audiences among gen z and millenial boyfriends seeing it as a date movie with their girlfriends. In fact Barbenheimer makes for a pretty good date night double feature. It will be interesting if studios do counter programming on this scale in future as people are already trying to make a Wonka/Napoleon double feature a meme now.  Obviously it won't take off as much as Barbenheimer did it but it's a good marketing gimmic. 

[vafrow]

On 7/15/2023 at 6:10 AM, vafrow said:

 

Barbie T-6, Milton, ON

 

Sales up to 151, an 18% increase from yesterday.

 

Continues to grow against comps, except MI7 which started accelerating in my market around now, but still well ahead in absolute sales.

 

Fun fact, Barbie at T-6 has outsold the final sales of Fast X, T:ROTB, Flash and Indy.

 

7.190x of TLM for $74.1M

1.248x of ATSV for $21.7M

1.911x of MI7 for $13.4M

 

 

Barbie T-5, Milton, ON

 

Sales up to 178 , another 18% . Pretty solid for a Saturday update.

 

Now at 44% ahead of ATSV. It only overtook it 3 days ago.

 

I can't see this slowing down at all this week. Even on one screen, there's enough capacity for it to sell strongly enough to maintain this pace. Sales are well distributed between the afternoon, early evening and late shows that capacity likely won't become a concern for a couple of days at least. And, being a short run time, I think the late show will pick up steam once the early show starts reaching capacity.

 

8.476x of TLM for $87.3M

1.447x of ATSV for $25.8M

1.835x of MI7 for $12.8M

Edited July 16, 2023 by vafrow

[TwoMisfits]

So, my locals expanded next weekend's presales already this weekend.

 

PLF Local 14 - 5 screens/25 showings for Barbie with 1 Dolby screen (5 showings), Oppy 3 screens/11 showings with 1 XD screen (4 showings), and 1 MI7 screen - at this point, there are only 5 screens left for all holdovers IF their is no expansion

 

Non PLF 12 - 4 screens/20 showings for Barbie, 3 screens/11 showings for Oppy, 1 screen for MI - at this point, there are only 4 screens left for all holdovers IF their is no expansion

 

Both have SoF on 2 screens this week, so I'd expect that to be held at least at one theater, if not both...then you have Insidious, Indy, Elemental, and Spidey fighting for screens with MI7 (will it stay dropped to 1 after opening with 4?) (not mentioning anything else b/c they should all be guaranteed drops),  It's gonna be a TIGHT weekend...

 

[M37]

Below are the highest number to total tickets sold in final week, from ZackM data (might be off by a smidge, but he can correct me)

 

Sales from T-7 to T-F for Alpha

• Batman = 208.6K (+98.2%)
• ATSV = 226.K (+222.8%)
• BPWF = 270.0K (+117.4%)
• Thor L&T = 275.3K (+111.0%)
• Strange MoM = 295.7K (+83.7%)
• NWH = 302.5K (+51.2%)

 

I mention this because Barbenheimer, even with a modest final week compared to current trajectory, has a decent shot of beating all of them, including NWH. Barbie could end up somewhere on this +200K list all by herself, similar to ATSV, starting from a lower baseline but posting a much higher growth rate and finishing in range of the big MCU films

 

As of T-7: Barbie = 129K, Oppy = 74K, combined = 203.5K

 

With that said, looking at the relative volume of sales also shows how much work is still needed for a $20M+ Barbie and/or $30M+ combined preview, and why that might be a tall ask even in light of the pace over the last week

Edited July 16, 2023 by M37

[keysersoze123]

I am back home and looked at Oppenbarbie and numbers are rock solid. Prime time shows are filling up even for non Imax/70 mm even for Oppy at this point. Only thing that will hold back is prime time show count. I am expecting big surge for both movies starting tomorrow. Let us see how allocations go. I am expecting all but MI7 and SOF being impacted huge and in smaller plexes I am not expecting more than 1 screen each even for those 2 if they want to play other movies like Elemental/Insidious/Indy and others. Hold over drops could be benefited by sellouts for the openers. This should be a good week for parking lot reports :-)

 

Barb - 19608/134662/168755 (early/previews/Friday)

Opp - 85440/112224

 

Has to be strongest previews to friday ratio for non animation flicks I have tracked.  

[reddevil19]

9 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

I am back home and looked at Oppenbarbie and numbers are rock solid. Prime time shows are filling up even for non Imax/70 mm even for Oppy at this point. Only thing that will hold back is prime time show count. I am expecting big surge for both movies starting tomorrow. Let us see how allocations go. I am expecting all but MI7 and SOF being impacted huge and in smaller plexes I am not expecting more than 1 screen each even for those 2 if they want to play other movies like Elemental/Insidious/Indy and others. Hold over drops could be benefited by sellouts for the openers. This should be a good week for parking lot reports 🙂

 

Barb - 19608/134662/168755 (early/previews/Friday)

Opp - 85440/112224

 

Has to be strongest previews to friday ratio for non animation flicks I have tracked.  

If WOM is strong, with spillover demand from OW, that second weekend will see some absolutely brutal theater count drops for pretty much every holdover. 

 

I'm very curious to see the reviews and whether there will be a spike or there just won't be room to grow too much given the current pace and screen limits.