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2 hours ago, lorddemaxus said:

Really think Dune's trajectory from here on out depends on the review bump. But even then, might not have a big one just because I have a hard time believing there are a lot of fence sitters for a part 2 film.

I really don't think the reviews are moving the needle much. I didn't see much in Orlando after the social medial embargo lifted for me to say strong reviews will cause a sharp spike like ATSV, Oppy, or GOTG3 saw 

 

This seems pretty accurate: 

 

On 2/16/2024 at 9:34 PM, leoh said:


 

I might be wrong, but I’ll repeat myself: I don’t think good reviews will give Dune any huge jump in pre sales. I say this due to the balance of expectations: Dune is already expected to be a really good movie, great reviews will not surprise many people. I don’t think there are many people who is doubting Dune quality and so will be convinced to buy tickets due to excellent reviews.

 

Of course there will be a good increase the closer we are to the release date, but nothing too crazy.

 

it’s a sequel of a successful movie, and as such it tends to be front loaded. Dune is a movie that already has a big fanbase and a big reputation, and for this kind of movies front loaded factor is way more common than surprising huge walk ups.

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22 hours ago, jeffthehat said:

 

MALCO

 

Dune: Part Two

  Day     T-Release      Sales     Seats     Shows     Growth  
  Thu   T-12   797   9684   54   +9.4%
  Fri   T-13   1172   22401   129   +7.9%

 

Thursday Comp

1.39x The Marvels T-12 (10 theaters) = $9.17m

MALCO

 

Dune: Part Two

  Day     T-Release      Sales     Seats     Shows     Growth  
  Thu   T-11   845   9684   54   +6.0%
  Fri   T-12   1242   22401   129   +6.0%

 

Thursday Comp

1.45x The Marvels T-11 (10 theaters) = $9.57m

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Marvels sales were awful at this stage so that comp should keep rising. The Thu/Fri sales ratio is also better than HG BoSS (~8x IM) at a similar stage. I'm bullish on the OW too fwiw. 

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23 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA 

 

DUNE 2

 

Thursday 

 

T-12

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

566

5500

106182

5.2%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

187

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

Orlando

SEATS SOLD

2231

*84 seats sold

 

COMPS 

T-12

 

(1.448x) of Oppenheimer $15.20M 

(0.690x) of Barbie $15.50M 

(0.915x) of Flash $8.87M 

(2.460x) of Wonka $8.61M 

(2.281x) of Aquaman 2 $10.27M 

 

Comps AVG: $11.69M

 

Added Barbie comp cause why not!!

FLORIDA 

 

DUNE 2

 

Thursday 

 

T-11

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

566

5673

106182

5.3%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

173

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

Orlando

SEATS SOLD

2284

*53 seats sold

 

COMPS 

T-11

 

(1.419x) of Oppenheimer $14.90M 

(0.667x) of Barbie $14.07M 

(0.907x) of Flash $8.80M 

(2.474x) of Wonka $8.66M 

(2.277x) of Aquaman 2 $10.25M 

 

Comps AVG: $11.34M

 

Steep drop against Barbie and Oppy, not shocking considering the monster that was brewing around this time. Held steady against all other comps 

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On 2/6/2024 at 7:24 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

FLORIDA

 

DUNE 2 IMAX EA

 

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

26

1830

5707

32.0%

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

556 seats sold over the past week

 

EA sales are super strong, not shocking 

FLORIDA

 

DUNE 2 IMAX EA

 

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

26

2447

5707

43.8%

 

SELLOUTS

1

 

617 seats sold over the past week-ish 

 

Continues to do super well considering all desirable seats are gone 

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Minneapolis-St. Paul Thursday Previews:

 

Demon Slayer: Kimetsu No Yaiba (T-4):

Day: T-4 Shows New Seats Sold Seats % Sold
Totals: 16 theaters 42 412 412 5976 6.89

 

Type of tix: Total: New: Percentage:
PLFs: 136 136 33.01
MTC1: 235 235 57.04
Marcus: 107 107 25.97
Alamo: 13 13 3.16
Other chains: 57 57 13.83

 

Comps:

0.32x Boy and the Heron: $760k

0.43x Godzilla Minus One: $910k

0.63x Dragon Ball Super Hero: $2.53 MIllion

 

Average: $1.4 Million

 

Don't have very many good comps and Dragon Ball comp is from when I tracked less theaters (apples-to-apples comp, but not as good), so take these numbers with a grain of salt.

 

Drive-Away Dolls, Ordinary Angels, and updates on Dune and Panda later tonight

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2 hours ago, Bob Train said:

JWD and Oppenheimer final sold block seems to be broken. 

 

Looks like some numbers got transposed at one point or another.  Fixed now.

(JWD: 10966 | Oppy: 4621)

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20 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Dune 2 MTC1

Early Shows(2/25) - 28966/55455 575508.04 181 shows +902

Previews(T-12) - 59551/517356 1172478.59 2589 shows +1635

Friday - 57294/795628 1126218.40 4010 shows +2751

Saturday -  59050/838107 1111007.90 4227 shows +3468

 

Weird day but yesterday was around 28 hrs or so of data and it was boosted due to full day of reviews. 

Dune 2 MTC1

Early Shows(2/25) - 30193/55706 599040.77 182 shows +1227

Previews(T-11) - 61407/517510 1207383.05 2591 shows +1856

Friday - 60023/796075 1176442.71 4011 shows +2729

Saturday -  62131/838107 1165602.25 4227 shows +3081

 

I think Early shows have started to accelerate as its 4 days earlier. But it will run out of good seats very soon almost everywhere. 

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Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Drive-Away Dolls (T-4):

Day: T-4 Shows New Seats Sold Seats % Sold
Totals: 14 theaters 30 64 64 2925 2.19

 

Comps:

0.29x Asteroid City: $320k

0.61x The Iron Claw: $410k

 

Average: $365k

 

Ordinary Angels (T-4):

Day: T-4 Shows New Seats Sold Seats % Sold
Totals: 15 theaters 20 27 27 2366 1.14

 

Comps:

0.19x Haunting in Venice: $225k

0.34x Big Fat Greek Wedding 3: $185k

 

Average: $205k

 

Seems like a couple of duds to add to February. Especially sad about Drive-Away Dolls, seems like not much interest sadly :(

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On 2/15/2024 at 9:11 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Kung Fu Panda 4 (T-21):

Day: T-21 Shows New Seats Sold Seats % Sold
Totals: 18 theaters 72 11 58 10441 0.56

 

Type of tix: Total: New: Percentage:
PLFs: 4 0 6.9
MTC1: 43 5 74.14
Marcus: 4 0 6.9
Alamo: 5 0 8.62
Other chains: 6 6 10.34

 

Comps:

0.48x Wonka: $1.69 Million

0.62x Wish (w/ EA): $1.43 Million

0.54x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $1.66 Million

 

Average: $1.59 Million

 

No meaningful Super Bowl bump which is what I was looking for

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Kung Fu Panda 4 (T-18):

Day: T-18 Shows New Seats Sold Seats % Sold
Totals: 18 theaters 72 16 74 10441 0.71

 

Type of tix: Total: New: Percentage:
PLFs: 4 0 5.41
MTC1: 53 10 71.62
Marcus: 7 3 9.46
Alamo: 5 0 6.76
Other chains: 9 3 12.16

 

Comps:

0.47x Wonka: $1.64 Million

0.56x Wish (w/ EA): $1.28 Million

0.59x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $1.84 Million

0.33x TMNT (w/ EA): $1.8 Million

 

Average: $1.64 Million

 

Running with these comps until the week of release, where I'll add Trolls and maybe Migration

 

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On 2/15/2024 at 9:18 PM, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Dune Part 2 (T-14):

Day: T-14, T-10 Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Thursday: 17 theaters 78 241 1838 15299 12.01
Sunday Feb 25 EA: 4 theaters 4 55 735 1082 67.93
TOTALS: 82 296 2573 16381 15.71

 

Type of tix:* Total: New: Percentage:
PLFs: 1641 204 89.28
MTC1: 998 110 54.3
Marcus: 192 17 10.45
Alamo: 273 23 14.85
Other chains: 375 91 20.4

*This chart only accounts for Thursday sales

 

Comps (Thursday only):

1.39x Oppy: $14.6 Million

1.9x The Marvels: $12.52 Million

1.95x MI7 (w/ EA): $17.52 Million

2.37x Indy: $17.03 Million

0.86x Barbie (w/ EA): $19.17 Million

 

Average: $16.17 Million

 

Call it a Superbowl bump, a social media reactions bump, or a mixture of both, but this was my strongest update since the first week of sales. @Porthos you might just be right!

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Dune Part 2 (T-11):

Day: T-11, T-7 Shows New Sold Seats % Sold
Thursday: 17 theaters 79 309 2147 15535 13.82
Sunday Feb 25 EA: 4 theaters 4 59 794 1082 73.38
TOTALS: 83 368 2941 16617 17.7

 

Type of tix: Total: New: Percentage:
PLFs: 1908 267 88.87
MTC1: 1134 136 52.82
Marcus: 219 27 10.2
Alamo: 315 42 14.67
Other chains: 479 104 22.31

 

Comps (Thursday only):

1.42x Oppy: $14.96 Million

2.08x The Marvels: $13.73 Million

2.01x MI7 (w/ EA): $18.11 Million

2.59x Indy: $18.69 Million

0.8x Barbie (w/ EA): $17.88 Million

 

Average: $16.67 Million

 

This is still running really hot here, probably catching the later wave of those social media reactions in these last three days. Oppy and Barbie comps will be going down for sure, as will the Marvels comp be going up. The others... we shall see.

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1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Dune 2 MTC1

Early Shows(2/25) - 30193/55706 599040.77 182 shows +1227

Previews(T-11) - 61407/517510 1207383.05 2591 shows +1856

Friday - 60023/796075 1176442.71 4011 shows +2729

Saturday -  62131/838107 1165602.25 4227 shows +3081

 

I think Early shows have started to accelerate as its 4 days earlier. But it will run out of good seats very soon almost everywhere. 

Thinking 160-170K final THU.

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23 hours ago, Porthos said:

 

 

Dune: Part Two - Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-12 days and counting

 

 

Capped

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

0

174

22757

25187

2430

9.65%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

90

 

T-12 Comps         REVAMPED CHARTS EDITION - STILL USE WITH CAUTION!!!

 

   

%

 

Sold
T-12

Total

Sold

 

Sellouts

Shows

Seats Left

Total Seats

Perct

Sold

 

Final

Sold

% of

Final

 

 

Comp

Batman

56.02

 

99

4338

 

0/285

31126/35464

12.23%

 

11757

20.67%

 

13.68m

Thor 4

34.80

 

168

6982

 

0/228

24618/31600

22.09%

 

16962

14.33%

 

10.09m

BP2

32.77

 

166

7416

 

2/296

29738/37154

19.96%

 

16800

14.46%

 

9.17m

AM3

48.45

 

125

5015

 

0/238

27779/32794

15.29%

 

10475

23.20%

 

8.48m

GOTG3

64.42

 

95

3772

 

0/203

25282/29054

12.98%

 

10750

22.60%

 

11.27m

TGM

52.68

 

297

4613

 

0/259

31320/35933

12.84%

 

11474

21.18%

 

10.15m

JWD

86.42

 

105

2812

 

0/191

22562/25374

11.08%

 

10966

22.16%

 

15.55m

Ava 2

77.54

 

187

3134

 

0/145

18350/21484

14.59%

 

8986

27.04%

 

13.18m

Wick 4

189.25

 

53

1284

 

0/90

12301/13585

9.45%

 

5448

44.60%

 

16.84m

Fast X

208.05

 

69

1168

 

0/178

26545/27713

4.21%

 

4122

58.95%

 

15.60m

TLM

140.14

 

110

1734

 

0/154

20987/22721

7.63%

 

6561

37.04%

 

14.43m

Indy 5

179.60

 

36

1353

 

0/128

18888/20241

6.68%

 

4767

50.98%

 

12.93m

Dune

346.65

 

55

701

 

0/75

11130/11831

5.93%

 

2915

83.36%

 

17.68m

Oppy

183.67

 

123

1323

 

0/57

7511/8834

14.98%

 

4621

52.59%

 

19.29m

Bats Tue EA T-8

101.96

 

-1

662

 

0/3

153/815

81.23%

 

743

89.37%

 

2.04m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Dune: Part Two's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

THE BATMAN EA NOTE:  "Bats Tue EA T-x" is a direct comp of the IMAX theaters which had the exclusive IMAX ONLY showings for The Batman on the Tuesday of release week and are showing the IMAX exclusives for Dune: Part Two on the Sunday of release week.  I am using the estimated 2m reported by the Trades and Box Office Pro for the comp.

 

Regal:       674/8313  [8.11% sold]
Matinee:    92/2840  [3.24% | 3.79% of all tickets sold]
———    
Sun:          675/814  [82.92% sold] [+11 tickets]
Thr:    1755/24373  [7.20% sold] [+79 tickets]
PLF:     1973/9825  [20.08% | 81.19% of all tickets sold]

 

Dune: Part Two - Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-12 days and counting

 

 

Capped

Sellouts

Showings

Seats left

Total Seats

Seats Sold

Perct Sold

TOTALS

0

0

174

22687

25187

2500

9.93%

 

Total Seats Sold Today

70

 

T-11 Comps         REVAMPED CHARTS EDITION - STILL USE WITH CAUTION!!!

 

   

%

 

Sold
T-11

Total

Sold

 

Sellouts

Shows

Seats Left

Total Seats

Perct

Sold

 

Final

Sold

% of

Final

 

 

Comp

Batman

55.95

 

130

4468

 

0/285

30994/35462

12.60%

 

11757

21.26%

 

13.66m

Thor 4

34.80

 

202

7184

 

0/228

24416/31600

22.73%

 

16962

14.74%

 

10.09m

BP2

32.83

 

200

7616

 

2/296

29538/37154

20.50%

 

16800

14.88%

 

9.19m

AM3

48.29

 

162

5177

 

0/238

27617/32794

15.79%

 

10475

23.87%

 

8.45m

GOTG3

64.38

 

111

3883

 

0/203

25171/29054

13.36%

 

10750

23.26%

 

11.27m

TGM

51.57

 

235

4848

 

0/259

31085/35933

13.49%

 

11474

21.79%

 

9.93m

JWD

83.50

 

182

2994

 

0/191

22380/25374

11.80%

 

10966

22.80%

 

15.03m

Ava 2

75.51

 

177

3311

 

0/145

18173/21484

15.41%

 

8986

27.82%

 

12.84m

Wick 4

187.55

 

49

1333

 

0/95

12458/13791

9.67%

 

5448

45.89%

 

16.69m

Fast X

205.59

 

48

1216

 

0/178

26494/27710

4.39%

 

4122

60.65%

 

15.42m

TLM

134.19

 

129

1863

 

0/154

20858/22721

8.20%

 

6561

38.10%

 

13.82m

Indy 5

175.69

 

70

1423

 

0/128

18818/20241

7.03%

 

4767

52.44%

 

12.65m

Dune

334.67

 

46

747

 

0/75

11084/11831

6.31%

 

2915

85.76%

 

17.07m

Oppy

179.21

 

72

1395

 

0/57

7439/8834

15.79%

 

4621

54.10%

 

18.82m

Bats Tue EA T-7

103.31

 

2

664

 

0/3

151/815

81.47%

 

743

90.85%

 

2.07m

FINAL SOLD NOTES: "Final sold" is the number of tickets sold for the movie in question at stop of tracking while "% of final" is the percentage of Dune: Part Two's current tickets sold versus that final number.

 

THE BATMAN EA NOTE:  "Bats Tue EA T-x" is a direct comp of the IMAX theaters which had the exclusive IMAX ONLY showings for The Batman on the Tuesday of release week and are showing the IMAX exclusives for Dune: Part Two on the Sunday of release week.  I am using the estimated 2m reported by the Trades and Box Office Pro for the comp.

 

Regal:       700/8313  [8.42% sold]
Matinee:    92/2840  [3.24% | 3.68% of all tickets sold]
———    
Sun:         686/814  [84.28% sold] [+11 tickets]
Thr:    1814/24373  [7.44% sold] [+59 tickets]
PLF:    2028/9825  [20.64% | 81.12% of all tickets sold]

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23 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Dune Part 2, Western GTA (southern Ontario), T-12 Thursday previews and T-8 EA shows

 

Previews

Total Sales: 475

New Sales: 23

Growth: 5.1%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 18

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 26.4

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 6/2

Early Evening: 367/9

Late Evening: 102/7

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 121/7

IMAX: 248/4

VIP: 98/5

4dx: 8/2

 

Comps (no EA)

1.331 of Marvels for $8.8M

4.025x of HG: BoSS for $23.1M

8.051x Madame Web for $48.3M

 

EA shows

 

Tickets sold: 461

Showtimes/Theatres: 2

Increase: 13

Growth: 2.9%

 

It might just be from being a weekend update, but the growth rate is falling back a bit, maybe indicating that the early reactions are wearing off.

 

Dune Part 2, Western GTA (southern Ontario), T-11 Thursday previews and T-7 EA shows

 

Previews

Total Sales: 489

New Sales: 14

Growth: 2.9%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 18

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 27.2

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Late Afternoon: 6/2

Early Evening: 380/9

Late Evening: 103/7

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Dolby: 123/7

IMAX: 250/4

VIP: 107/5

4dx: 8/2

 

Comps (no EA)

1.347 of Marvels for $8.9M

3.705 of HG: BoSS for $21.3M

7.641x Madame Web for $45.8M

 

EA shows

 

Tickets sold: 495

Showtimes/Theatres: 2

Increase: 34

Growth: 7.4%

 

Growth for previews has slowed down, but, it's also a weeke update over a long weekend. General caveat to ignore the two outlier comps. I'm keeping them there just to see when and how those come to something normal.

 

Biggest story is that the EA shows are picking up. It makes sense that if the early reactions are going to trigger die hards to do anything, it's to see it early.

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23 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Kung Fu Panda 4, Western GTA (southern Ontario), T-19 Thursday previews

 

Total Sales: 18

New Sales: 3

Growth: 20%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 14

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 1.3

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Afternoon: 1/2

Late Afternoon: 2/2

Early Evening: 11/5

Late Evening: 4/4

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Regular: 10/8
3D Regular: 6/5
Dolby: 2/1

 

Comps

2.571x Wonka for $9.0M

 

Quick update. Still very difficult to get any real intel m

 

Kung Fu Panda 4, Western GTA (southern Ontario), T-18 Thursday previews

 

Total Sales: 25

New Sales: 7

Growth: 38%

Theatres tracked: MTC4

Total theatres: 5

Showtimes: 14

Radius: 19 km

Tickets per showtime: 1.8

 

Sales by timing (sales/showtimes)

Early Afternoon: 1/2

Late Afternoon: 2/2

Early Evening: 18/5

Late Evening: 4/4

 

Sales by format (sales/showtimes)

Regular: 17/8
3D Regular: 6/5
Dolby: 2/1

 

Comps

2.778x Wonka for $9.7M

 

Sales picked up a bit unexpectedly.

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5 hours ago, von Kenni said:

What would that mean $ wise?

Using standard PSM (Pre-Sale Multiplier) range, roughly $9-$10M for Thursday

 

Would be similar growth pattern as Avatar 2 from this point

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On 2/16/2024 at 2:36 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Dune MiniTC2 T-14 Days

 

Thursday - 2223/41362 (141 showings)

 

Comps

1.26x Oppy - $13M

0.51x Avatar 2 - $9M


Dune MiniTC2 T-11 Days

Thursday - 2487/41974 (145 showings)

 

Comps

1.21x Oppy - $12.5M

0.49x Avatar 2 - $8.5M

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On 2/16/2024 at 2:42 PM, charlie Jatinder said:

Kung Fu Panda 4 MiniTC2 T-21 Days

Previews - 87/31157 (144 showings)

 

Comps

1.6x Elemental - $3.8M

1.75x Trolls 3 - $2.3M

Kung Fu Panda 4 MiniTC2 T-18 Days

 

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1.83x Trolls 3 - $2.4M

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