SpiderByte Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 It's sounding more and more like Marvel has the Fantastic Four cast at CCXP this weekend. If there were ever a time for a shot in the arm... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willowra Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, Arlborn said: I really disagree with that being the main reason. A minor reason out of many? Sure, there was a higher than usual apathy (and some hate) towards her, but the first movie was well received back then, and I’m pretty sure there were at least 10 reasons for this one bombing that were bigger than any apathy towards her. Some of these reasons were actually responsible for the apathy in fact Lack of interest (apathy) in the lead character is the main reason why this flopped. Lack of interest could be for different reasons, like not having an image of a big character, hate for the character among the fandom, not being an established character, the first movie being medicore, etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Theaters Enjoyer Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 The delusional part of me is still hoping for a last minute twist that Christopher Abbott or Frank Dillane is getting Reed Richards. A man can dream.... (I have nothing against Pedro in the role FYI) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFlatLannister Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Some of these MCU predictions are extreme knee jerk reactions “Sub $500M Avengers 5”? I’ve seen some people on Reddit say Deadpool 3 is going below $600M WW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) If they're announcing the cast they might have concept art of the team as well, that'd be pretty cool. If it's really set in the 60s I'd expect something more classic styled than the one Krasinski had. Edited November 27, 2023 by SpiderByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belakor Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, TheFlatLannister said: Some of these MCU predictions are extreme knee jerk reactions “Sub $500M Avengers 5”? I’ve seen some people on Reddit say Deadpool 3 is going below $600M WW! Everything is possible now, a year ago no one believed a Marvel movie with brand name was going to flop harder than John Carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Even if they include Tobey, my man Sam potentially directing Avengers movies bums me out a bit. If he has to do a 'One for them, one for me,' I'd rather it were for something kookier like Doctor Strange 3 or even Fantastic 4. These Avengers movies are far removed from the earnest 60s/70s fanboy that he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 A fourth Raimi Spider-Man where Tobey's Peter mentors Miles would push $200m OW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Belakor Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Just now, Bob Train said: A fourth Raimi Spider-Man where Tobey's Peter mentors Miles would push $200m OW. Why replace him, give him 2 more movies and then introduce a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daxtreme Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Masketta Man said: Newest rumor is a Wiccan series that will lead into a Scarlet Witch movie. If that's true they didn't learn a single thing about Marvels bombing. Well it would certainly give credibility to my "if Dax was Kevin Feige" Marvel slate I posted a few pages back. I have a Scarlet Witch movie in there somewhere... 😂 1 hour ago, Willowra said: Lack of interest (apathy) in the lead character is the main reason why this flopped. Lack of interest could be for different reasons, like not having an image of a big character, hate for the character among the fandom, not being an established character, the first movie being medicore, etc. I agree. Lots of people say it's because of the shows, and only because of that, but I think it's mostly because the characters are just uninteresting to the GA. So they don't even seek the shows out. If people WANT to watch something something, even if it's a TV show, they WILL. The lack of interest is precisely because of what you said: nobody cares about those characters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 30 minutes ago, Belakor said: Everything is possible now, a year ago no one believed a Marvel movie with brand name was going to flop harder than John Carter. No one believed The Marvels could make under $400M in August. It has been really unexpected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kon Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arlborn said: I really disagree with that being the main reason. A minor reason out of many? Sure, there was a higher than usual apathy (and some hate) towards her, but the first movie was well received back then, and I’m pretty sure there were at least 10 reasons for this one bombing that were bigger than any apathy towards her. Some of these reasons were actually responsible for the apathy in fact If the character has a really good reception, there would be people interested on seeing the continuation of her adventures. We always speak that Guardias of the Galaxy 3 was saved by the good reception (which is true). However, even before the good reviews started, the interest was a lot bigger than The Marvels. About the need to make "homework" to understand a movie, I think people exagerate the effect it could have on fans. People could fear they need to see other shows to understand a movie, but it isn't so weird they just skip these shows (and still go to see the movie). In the Infinity saga, many people who saw Endgame didn't see all the previous movies. The issue is always about lack of interest. If you're interested in a brand or character, you will make or skip the "homework" and go to see the movie. Edited November 27, 2023 by Kon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Remember all those theories that Marvel hates Waldron after Multiverse of Madness? Edited November 27, 2023 by SpiderByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Remember all those theories that Marvel hates Waldron after Multiverse of Madness? The MCU is doomed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) A lot of people seem shocked for...some reason? Right after it's reported the director of Multiverse of Madness is in the running for Kang and Secret Wars, the writer of Multiverse of Madness and Secret Wars being involved shouldn't be a huge surprise. Edited November 27, 2023 by SpiderByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwoMisfits Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bob Train said: The MCU is doomed. Season 2 was the much better written Loki season - it made season 1 and its ending MUCH better. And I see from Deadline, he wrote season 1, and not season 2? Edited November 27, 2023 by TwoMisfits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Masketta Man Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Remember all those theories that Marvel hates Waldron after Multiverse of Madness? -80% 2nd week drop here we go 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Train Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Kang Dynasty (or whatever they call it) will set new benchmarks for how frontloaded a blockbuster can be. Edited November 27, 2023 by Bob Train 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 (edited) Why is everyone pretending that Multiverse of Madness was a bomb again? Does everyone think now every single sequel will have a The Marvels type drop just because they're also sequels? Edited November 27, 2023 by SpiderByte Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadOlCatSylvester Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, SpiderByte said: Remember all those theories that Marvel hates Waldron after Multiverse of Madness? My "below Josstice League" joke might actually happen now What a bunch of stubborn mules. They've learned absolutely nothing from the past couple of years and it just boggles my mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...