WICKED | 97.1M overseas | 372.9M worldwide

[kayumanggi]

WONKA [2023] - 416.0M
THE LITTLE MERMAID [2023] - 271.5M

ALADDIN [2019] - 698.7M
BEAUTY AND THE BEAST [2017] - 761.6M

Edited 18 hours ago by kayumanggi

[Purple Minion]

Less than a month for Part I's release. A billion WW, perhaps?

[Purple Minion]

Deadline: Wicked, is expected to pull a $125 million-$150 million domestic opening this weekend. Add in an extra $40M-$50M from its overseas launch.

 

Wicked will hit 61 overseas markets this weekend, beginning notably with Korea on Wednesday; followed by Australia, Brazil, Italy and Mexico on Thursday; and with Spain and the UK joining Friday. This will represent 65% of the offshore footprint — such majors releasing later include France on December 4, China on December 6, Germany on December 12 and Japan on March 7, 2025.

[charlie Jatinder]

I can see Aus do $8-9M. UK should be doing $12M+ type I guess. Mexico is looking to be $5M. How could it be only $40-50M then?

Edited November 21 by charlie Jatinder

[justnumbers]

Yeah this is going over 50M this weekend 

[DAJK]

To be fair, Oz the Great and Powerful made less than 300M OS. Maybe Wizard of Oz just isn’t that big of a brand internationally. 

[Gogo2025]

24 minutes ago, DAJK said:

To be fair, Oz the Great and Powerful made less than 300M OS. Maybe Wizard of Oz just isn’t that big of a brand internationally. 

It isn't. And it doesn't help that the newer generation don't care about fantasy or musicals.

[Jiffy]

The DOM/INT split for a lot of blockbusters this year is... interesting. Realize there are reasons for each case, but still.

 

[Purple Minion]

Deadline updated forecast: Wicked now with a projected $165M through Sunday. As expected, the bulk is coming from North America, with the anticipated split at $117M domestic and $48M from the international box office. The UK is the lead offshore market with an expected $15M+ through Sunday.

[Spidey Freak]

17 hours ago, Jiffy said:

The DOM/INT split for a lot of blockbusters this year is... interesting. Realize there are reasons for each case, but still.

 

Franchises that were in their prime before the OS expansion in the mid-late 00s are going to struggle. Case in point, Twisters and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Wicked and the Oz IP is a mix of both in that it is both uniquely American like Twisters and like BB didn't really branch out to OS in a substantial way in recent years (Frozen and Maleficent are basically Wicked in different fonts but one was 'original' and the other had Angelina Jolie's star power and that Sleeping Beauty is a far simpler and more easily accessible fairytale than The Wizard of Oz, which technically is a children's series).

 

Top Gun: Maverick probably would have suffered the same fate if it hadn't been for Tom Cruise's sheer star power. Yeah, I know that didn't really help Dead Reckoning much but TGM WAS the biggest film of 2022 summer unlike DR which was unfortunate enough to open just before Barbenheimer. Yeah, lack of competition helped TGM but that shouldn't discount Cruise's appeal that came into play for it overseas, just like Jolie's did for the OG Maleficent.

 

Star Wars is kinda fucked too OS unless they come out with a film starring huge names.

Edited November 24 by Spidey Freak

[Eric Dylan]

1 hour ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

Franchises that were in their prime before the OS expansion in the mid-late 00s are going to struggle. Case in point, Twisters and Beetlejuice Beetlejuice. Wicked and the Oz IP is a mix of both in that it is both uniquely American like Twisters and like BB didn't really branch out to OS in a substantial way in recent years (Frozen and Maleficent are basically Wicked in different fonts but one was 'original' and the other had Angelina Jolie's star power and that Sleeping Beauty is a far simpler and more easily accessible fairytale than The Wizard of Oz, which technically is a children's series).

 

Top Gun: Maverick probably would have suffered the same fate if it hadn't been for Tom Cruise's sheer star power. Yeah, I know that didn't really help Dead Reckoning much but TGM WAS the biggest film of 2022 summer unlike DR which was unfortunate enough to open just before Barbenheimer. Yeah, lack of competition helped TGM but that shouldn't discount Cruise's appeal that came into play for it overseas, just like Jolie's did for the OG Maleficent.

 

Star Wars is kinda fucked too OS unless they come out with a film starring huge names.

Really does make the numbers the pre-Renaissance Disney remakes produce OS all the more interesting. Now of course part of it can be attributed to China and also major starpower with Jolie or Stone or Depp, but even Cinderella and Jungle Book and Dumbo still put up strong business despite no huge stars. And in Wicked's case, this also has a huge name with Ariana Grande. Was the Disney name all they needed for them to get more overseas appeal?

[Purple Minion]

 

[Purple Minion]

 

[Spidey Freak]

5 hours ago, Eric the Good Witch said:

Really does make the numbers the pre-Renaissance Disney remakes produce OS all the more interesting. Now of course part of it can be attributed to China and also major starpower with Jolie or Stone or Depp, but even Cinderella and Jungle Book and Dumbo still put up strong business despite no huge stars. And in Wicked's case, this also has a huge name with Ariana Grande. Was the Disney name all they needed for them to get more overseas appeal?

 

Yeah, star power did pull through for the bigger films OS (Depp, Jolie, Watson, Smith). Jungle Book and Cinderella are anomalies because the stories are very well-known OS and ditto for TLK (I'd say Aladdin would have fallen in this category too but Will's presence definitely didn't hurt).

 

Little Mermaid wasn't too far behind Cinderella despite not having Russia so I never got the "OS is racist" teeth gnashing as Ariel and Cindy have pretty much always been on the same level in terms of popularity amongst the Disney Princesses. If Disney expected it to perform on the same level as the other Big 4 Renaissance remakes, then they should have pushed for a big star. What could've been if Harry had just played Prince Eric instead of choosing Don't Worry Darlings and the subsequent endless drama that followed both in his professional and personal lives  

 

I think Ariana will play a big part in helping Wicked perform at least on par with Cinderella and TLM OS. I hope it does better but the incoming competition is more likely to affect it overseas than domestic due to bleeding screens.

Edited November 24 by Spidey Freak

[Unfitclock]

A little lower then I was expecting for Australia 

[charlie Jatinder]

Kind of crazy. You have $18M in UK, $7M in Aus, $5M in Korea and $4M Mexico. And yet just $50M overall.

Normally such nos will give $60-70M at least.

[CJohn]

5 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

Kind of crazy. You have $18M in UK, $7M in Aus, $5M in Korea and $4M Mexico. And yet just $50M overall.

Normally such nos will give $60-70M at least.

Nothing crazy and totally expected. Other markers are not aware of the musical, the Oz brand isn't very strong and there are no big stars for OS auds. This was always gonna be another Beetlejuice/Twisters.

[Mojoguy]

6 hours ago, CJohn said:

Nothing crazy and totally expected. Other markers are not aware of the musical, the Oz brand isn't very strong and there are no big stars for OS auds. This was always gonna be another Beetlejuice/Twisters.

At least Uni kept the budget low at $150M for 1st film. Also filming both parts 1 and 2 together saved even more money.

 

Ridley Scott and also Disney could learn a thing or two.

Edited November 25 by Mojoguy

[Torontofan]

Yeah gone are the days where a film blows up domestically and just cakewalks to 500 million overseas.

 

Take Dawn of the revenge of the Apes

 

 Did 513 million overseas

 

today lucky to do 200 million. 

 

Yeah 100 million was china but still 

Edited November 26 by Torontofan

[kayumanggi]

50.0M overseas | 194.9M worldwide