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On 11/27/2019 at 12:56 PM, Aristis said:

$14,29M (according to BOM), 1,98M, ATP ~7,2€

 

1 hour ago, danhtruong5 said:

I thought the ATP was 7.9 as you mentioned here

She mentioned the wrong currentcy thats all.

The ATP was $7.2 at that time, if you would have done that math you'd know 😛

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$7,31, so if frozen 2 make between 7 and 7,5 admissions, it means between $51M and $55M

 

By Tuesday, Frozen 2 will be at 5,8M admissions after a week at 660K admissions (+10%), so we can hope for a total of 6,7-6,8 admissions by end of holidays and then something like 7,2-7,3M admissions but it can do less or better it really depends

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13 hours ago, pepsa said:

 

She mentioned the wrong currentcy thats all.

The ATP was $7.2 at that time, if you would have done that math you'd know 😛

I don't really know what I did there, but it seems that indeed that he got confused by his own currency mistake :D:ph34r:

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Box office pro France said that at this point 6,5 millions admissions is the goal in France, Cine directors expect 1,8 millions admissions from Wednesday to next Tuesday (so around 4,2 millions admissions) and 800K admissions for Frozen 2 (so around 6,7 millions admissions). My predictions for TROS in France is between 6,5M and 7,5 millions admissions with atp at $9,2 it means something between $59M and $69M. For Frozen 2 we can expect something between 7,5 and 8 millions admissions, so with atp at 7,32, it means something between $55M and $58M. Obviously it's only predictions it can be more or less and you in what is your predictions in France and in your own country ?

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SW vs SW:

WE

SW7

SW8

SW9

1st

2.705

---

2.705

2.189

---

2.189

1.887

---

1.887

2nd

1.966

-27%

5.767

943

-57%

3.453

1.472

-22%

3.893

3rd

1.542

-22%

8.345

1.315

39%

5.341

 

 

 

4th

627

-59%

9.140

770

-41%

6.444

 

 

 

5th

382

-39%

9.611

222

-71%

6.725

 

 

 

6th

245

-36%

9.927

143

-36%

6.902

 

 

 

7th

164

-33%

10.128

75

-48%

7.001

 

 

 

     

10,315M

   

7,077M

   

6,500M

 

F1 vs F2:

WE

Frozen 1

Frozen 2

1st

776

---

954

1.980

---

1.980

2nd

656

-15%

1.697

1.347

-32%

3.485

3rd

619

-6%

2.434

866

-36%

4.439

4th

752

21%

3.471

558

-36%

5.077

5th

646

-14%

4.384

475

-15%

5.626

6th

151

-77%

4.565

583

23%

6.440

7th

124

-18%

4.698

 

 

 

8th

95

-23%

4.802

 

 

 

     

5,152M

   

7,500M

 

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On 12/31/2019 at 3:25 PM, pepsa said:

@Aristis So they are expecting frozen to only make 450k admission after next week?

That 7,5M is just the floor. F2 will probably end a bit higher than that (>7,5M, <8M).

 

But it'll have only one good drop (to get to around 7,05M) and than drop 70%+ like F1. It remains to be seen what it'll be able to do after that. Though, as I said some time ago, I'm always cautious so yeah, it'll likely end above that.

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25.12.2019 - 29.12.2019

1

1.471.948

-22%

3.892.658

2

Star Wars 9

2

582.736

+23%

6.439.767

6

Frozen 2

3

455.664

+38%

2.253.313

4

Jumanji 2

4

314.081

---

314.081

1

Spies in Disguise

5

246.855

---

246.855

1

Rendez-vous Chez Les Malawas

6

157.529

+1%

928.001

4

Addams Family

7

137.801

+9%

524.284

3

Docteur?

8

123.107

---

123.107

1

La Verite

9

116.026

+8%

1.663.593

6

Les Miserables

10

104.575

---

104.575

1

3 Engel für Charlie

 

1.1.2020 - 05.01.2020

1

849.695

-42%

5.140.910

3

Star Wars 9

2

404.694

-31%

7.047.322

7

Frozen 2

3

384.284

-16%

2.798.180

5

Jumanji 2

4

296.679

-6%

739.244

2

Spies in Disguise

5

232.657

---

232.657

1

Les Vetos

6

211.152

---

211.152

1

Little Women

7

157.287

-36%

491.931

2

Rendez-vous Chez Les Malawas

8

123.508

-22%

1.114.039

5

Addams Family

9

117.252

---

117.252

1

Play

10

89.682

---

89.682

1

21 Bridges

 

http://www.insidekino.de/BO/F2020.htm

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SW vs SW:

Spoiler

WE

SW7

SW8

SW9

1st

2.705

---

2.705

2.189

---

2.189

1.887

---

1.887

2nd

1.966

-27%

5.767

943

-57%

3.453

1.472

-22%

3.893

3rd

1.542

-22%

8.345

1.315

39%

5.341

850

-42%

5.141

4th

627

-59%

9.140

770

-41%

6.444

 

 

 

5th

382

-39%

9.611

222

-71%

6.725

 

 

 

6th

245

-36%

9.927

143

-36%

6.902

 

 

 

7th

164

-33%

10.128

75

-48%

7.001

 

 

 

     

10,315M

   

7,077M

   

6,250M

 

Frozen vs Frozen:

Spoiler

WE

Frozen 1

Frozen 2

1st

776

---

954

1.980

---

1.980

2nd

656

-15%

1.697

1.347

-32%

3.485

3rd

619

-6%

2.434

866

-36%

4.439

4th

752

21%

3.471

558

-36%

5.077

5th

646

-14%

4.384

475

-15%

5.626

6th

151

-77%

4.565

583

23%

6.440

7th

124

-18%

4.698

405

-31%

7.047

8th

95

-23%

4.802

     
     

5,152M

   

7,500M

 

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4 hours ago, Aristis said:

SW vs SW:

  Hide contents

WE

 

 

SW7

 

 

SW8

 

 

SW9

 

 

1st

 

 

2.705

 

 

---

 

 

2.705

 

 

2.189

 

 

---

 

 

2.189

 

 

1.887

 

 

---

 

 

1.887

 

 

2nd

 

 

1.966

 

 

-27%

 

 

5.767

 

 

943

 

 

-57%

 

 

3.453

 

 

1.472

 

 

-22%

 

 

3.893

 

 

3rd

 

 

1.542

 

 

-22%

 

 

8.345

 

 

1.315

 

 

39%

 

 

5.341

 

 

850

 

 

-42%

 

 

5.141

 

 

4th

 

 

627

 

 

-59%

 

 

9.140

 

 

770

 

 

-41%

 

 

6.444

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5th

 

 

382

 

 

-39%

 

 

9.611

 

 

222

 

 

-71%

 

 

6.725

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6th

 

 

245

 

 

-36%

 

 

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OD January 8 releases

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There's no big release this week, with only one above 300 cinemas and two around 200 - as the Christmas holidays have ended. Underwater is the strongest of them all, with a decent average of 87 moviegoers per theater and without any preview screening. Weathering With You, the japanese smash-hit from Makoto Shinkai, takes the second place with a score a bit stronger than Your Name three years ago but with more previews and with twice as more cinemas. Sol, a french comedy, takes third place with a disappointing average knowing it's the widest release this week.

 

Then come two "cinema prize contenders", The Farewell and The Whistlers. The former gets a better average than the latter, with less previews. Below, we only have bombs that won't stay long in their small amount of cinemas.

 

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker should keep the lead for the 4th consecutive week, it should be dethroned by 1917 which releases next week. Only Underwater should manage to get into the top 10 this week.

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Top 10 Weekend January 8-12

 

Rank Title

Distributor

Admissions Prints Average Total Week
1 STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER DISNEY 283 805   (-67%) 731 388 5 501 791 4
2 UNDERWATER DISNEY 143 446   (NEW) 213 673 143 446 1
3 JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL SONY 133 320   (-65%) 467 285 2 951 981 6
4 LITTLE WOMEN SONY 124 219   (-39%) 297 418 366 882 2
5 LES VÉTOS UGC 117 294   (-44%) 485 242 388 792 2
6 FROZEN II DISNEY 106 684   (-74%) 636 168 7 176 162 8
7 SPIES IN DISGUISE DISNEY 94 014     (-68%) 544 173 841 647 3
8 WEATHERING WITH YOU BAC FILMS 82 200     (NEW) 188 437 82 200 1
9 SOL STUDIO CANAL 62 515     (NEW) 314 199 62 515 1
10 RENDEZ-VOUS CHEZ LES MALAWAS PATHE 61 787     (-61%) 680 91 571 181 3

 

Harsh week for the box-office in France: the lack of big releases and the end of the Christmas break doesn't help. Many movies lose more than 60% of their admission levels compared to the last week, mostly family-friendly movies.

 

As such, for the fourth week in a row, Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker keeps the lead due to a crippling lack of decent competition. It has now reached 5.5M admissions, and will barely go over 6M by the end of January before ending its career.

 

In second place, another Disney movie, this time inherited from Fox: Underwater. The deep-down thriller from the abyss gets the best average per print, and grabs nearly 150k admissions despite being screened in just over 200 cinemas. A final score around 500k is very likely.

 

The podium is completed by Jumanji: The Next Level which comes close of the 3M mark and will end its career at the same level as Welcome to the Jungle. Note that Jumanji: The Next Level is part of the highest-grossing movies in France that never reached a weekly #1 spot, being beaten every week either by Frozen II or Star Wars. It's its sixth consecutive week on the podium, though.

 

Below, Little Women has the lowest drop rate of the top, helped with good critics - let's hope that its 6 Academy Award nominations will help it go further, closer to the 1M mark - but it will be very hard. Les Vétos, a french drama, is going to be around 600k at the end of its career. Frozen II will be close to 7.5M. Spies in Disguise should manage to get to 1M. Next up, Weathering with You is the first japanese movie since Dragon Ball Super: Broly to get into the top 10 with the second best average of the top, and does a higher score than Your Name three years ago.

 

At the bottom of the top 10, Sol is a failure with barely 200 admissions per print and will likely not reach 200k admissions. Malawas will also fail to reach its objective of 1M admissions by a long run. 650k seems more likely.

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SW vs SW:

WE

SW7

SW8

SW9

1st

2.705

---

2.705

2.189

---

2.189

1.887

---

1.887

2nd

1.966

-27%

5.767

943

-57%

3.453

1.472

-22%

3.893

3rd

1.542

-22%

8.345

1.315

39%

5.341

850

-42%

5.141

4th

627

-59%

9.140

770

-41%

6.444

284

-67%

5.502

5th

382

-39%

9.611

222

-71%

6.725

 

 

 

6th

245

-36%

9.927

143

-36%

6.902

 

 

 

7th

164

-33%

10.128

75

-48%

7.001

 

 

 

     

10,315M

   

7,077M

   

6,000M

 

Following SW8 after the end of holidays SW9 wouldn't even reach 6M (~5,95M) so this could be a long way...

 

Frozen vs Frozen:

 

WE

Frozen 1

Frozen 2

1st

776

---

954

1.980

---

1.980

2nd

656

-15%

1.697

1.347

-32%

3.485

3rd

619

-6%

2.434

866

-36%

4.439

4th

752

21%

3.471

558

-36%

5.077

5th

646

-14%

4.384

475

-15%

5.626

6th

151

-77%

4.565

583

23%

6.440

7th

124

-18%

4.698

405

-31%

7.047

8th

95

-23%

4.802

107

-74%

7.170

     

5,152M

   

7,500M

 

It needs some good legs to get to 7,5M from here. F2 is already the 2nd biggest movie of the year so there's not really another milestone to reach.

 

TOP10 2019:

1

10.007.043

The Lion King

2

7.170.115

Frozen 2

3

6.942.474

Avengers - Endgame

4

6.711.618

Serial Bad Wedding 2

5

5.573.419

Joker

6

5.501.791

Star Wars 9

7

4.596.424

Toy Story 4

8

3.374.568

Captain Marvel

9

3.367.445

HTTYD3

10

3.226.105

Spider-Man - Far From Home

 

TLK still is a bit speculative (JP-BO has it at 9,75M). SW9 will pass Joker for 5th and J2 could enter the TOP10 later.

 

And with the year being over, the TOP10 OW 2019:

1

2.844.886

Avengers: EG (6th biggest ever)

2

2.559.370

The Lion King (10th biggest ever)

3

1.979.782

Frozen 2

4

1.886.610

Star Wars 9

5

1.852.556

Serial Bad Wedding

6

1.357.118

Joker

7

1.125.726

Captain Marvel

8

1.109.050

Spider-Man: FFH

9

1.100.058

Toy Story 4

10

1.056.143

Little white lies

 

http://www.insidekino.de/BO/F2019.htm

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OD January 15 releases

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Finally a movie with a good opening! 1917 leads the charge with more than 90k admissions on its OD, with a third of them being in preview screenings. It's still lower than Dunkirk, and on par with See You Up There (Au revoir là-haut). But 1M is pretty much guaranteed for the movie, which will be the first one to cross in 2020.

 

Queens of the Field (Une belle équipe) is second but does a very lackluster score, trailed by the remake of The Grudge which has a much better average per theater. Selfie also does a low score despite a semi-wide release. Below, various movies with limited releases stay discreet.

 

System K has a typo, it's only on 31 sites, and not 337.

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Top 10 Weekend January 15-20

 

Rank Title Distributor Admissions Prints Average Total Week
1 1917 UNIVERSAL 533 522  (NEW) 528 1 010 533 522 1
2 STAR WARS: THE RISE OF SKYWALKER DISNEY 156 583  (-45%) 795 197 5 704 729 5
3 UNE BELLE ÉQUIPE (QUEENS OF THE FIELD) GAUMONT 129 052  (NEW) 432 299 129 052 1
4 LITTLE WOMEN SONY 106 134  (-15%) 428 248 501 277 3
5 JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL SONY 95 750    (-28%) 386 248 3 063 205 7
6 THE GRUDGE SONY 91 283    (NEW) 178 513 91 283 1
7 SPIES IN DISGUISE DISNEY 82 946    (-12%) 681 122 928 416 4
8 SELFIE APOLLO 81 254    (NEW) 266 305 81 254 1
9 LES VÉTOS UGC 77 670    (-34%) 540 144 494 912 3
10 UNDERWATER DISNEY 75 112    (-48%) 213 353 244 237 2

 

A Battle of Wars: 1917 takes over The Rise of Skywalker in the No Movie's Land


As expected, 1917 takes the lead with ease with over 500k admissions in 5 days. The movie also has excellent WOM (4.5 out of 5 on Allociné, 7.9 out of 10 on SensCritique) and thanks to its 10 Oscars noms, 2M definitely seem feasible for the latest war movie by Sam Mendes.

 

The other new releases do not shine as much. The two french comedies of this week, Une belle équipe and Selfie, only managed to attract around 300 moviegoers per theater. They will not go far at the box-office and will lose a bunch of screens when the February school break will start. The remake of The Grudge performed a bit better on average, with a more limited release on less than 200 screens.

 

War of attrition

 

Star Wars IX finally lost its top spot and gets down to second place, it looks like its final stop will be 6M. Little Women holds wonderfully well, helped by good WOM (4.0 Allociné, 7.0 SensCritique) and its 4 Oscars noms. 1M could be feasible in the long run!

 

Jumanji: TNL, in 5th place, also holds up very well by attracting the families in off-school days. It has now crossed 3M and is on track to finish at the same level as Welcome to the Jungle. The animated feature Spies in Disguise will also manage to get above 1M, and will be the final movie released in 2019 to do so. There are 51 movies to do above 1M admissions in 2019.

 

At the bottom of the top 10, Les Vétos has a decent drop and will cross 500k today while Underwater loses traction and sinks into the boxoffice.

 

News from the backline

 

Beyond the top 10, some interesting things happen:

 

- Les Misérables, helped by its Oscar nomination for best international film and the Télérama film festival, has a +17% increase in admissions and will cross 2M admissions in the following days.

- Frozen II is now at 7.25M admissions and cements itself as the #2 of 2019.

- Knives Out has passed the 1M mark.

- Parasite benefitted from a wide re-release in theaters both from the Télérama festival and its 6 Oscars noms, having brought more than 40k additional admissions since its initial theatrical run. Its total is now at 1.75M admissions! Parasite might stay in theaters in a limited release until the Oscars in early February.

- A similar phenomenon happened to Portrait of a Lady on Fire and For Sama.

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1 hour ago, PKMLover said:

What is the drop for F2 this weekend? Can it still reach 7.5m?

71,671 admissions (-33%). February break starts for one area on February 6, the movie can definitely get through the period as there won't be much competition on purely animated features (Mission Kathmandu, Racetime, Bayala, Samsam are all small-sized animated flms) but some family-friendly movies will be there to compete (Dolittle, Ducobu 3, Sonic, Le Prince Oublié).

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OD January 22 releases

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Strong start for Bad Boys for Life, with an OD slightly inferior to Bad Boys II which was released 17 years ago but is higher than Gemini Man. It should be around 400-450k this week-end and will definitely be the second "millionaire" of the year after 1917.

 

The latest action blockbuster is followed by a french dramedy with a long-ass title, Je voudrais que quelqu'un m'attende quelque part (I would like that someone awaits me somewhere) which does a decent start, with a sizeable part of admissions done in previews. Completing the podium is Bombshell, which makes a quite low average despite its very large release in nearly 500 cinemas.

 

The rest of the movies are mostly arthouse cinema, except Qu'un sang impur (The Breitner Commando) which is a french action drama that got a very small release despite its ambitions.

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