john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) guys thats enough we all have different opinions , at the end of the day it doesnt matter what i think ,what anyone thinks, the thing that matter is what is happening right now, so enought with this conversation ps completly irrelevant but tommorrow i will go and buy the last of us 2 :d Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thunder storm Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, john2000 said: guys thats enough we all have different opinions , at the end of the day it doesnt matter what i think ,what anyone thinks, the thing that matter is what is happening right now, so enought with this conversation yeah. we all have different opinions, but don't come and tell me not to go to cinema and don't tell people to stay home. and of course: don't blame the others for what they are doing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, john2000 said: thousands of people in beaches in uk, is not better thasn going to movie theater Source ? It could very well be the case that thousands of people in beaches is a category above less spreading than in theater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Barnack said: Source ? It could very well be the case that thousands of people in beaches is a category above less spreading than in theater. ...... search the internet mate i mean seriously i cant possible recall the exact places, 20+ articles in a day are about covid, if you can see the point that i try to make ok if not, then ok, in any cases i wont continue a conversation that is basically useless, i said what i had to say, you agree fine you disagree fine, the end of it Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I would close bars before movie theaters tbh to prevent a second wave but it is just a random guess. There is no data yet on the possible danger of moviegoing, Europeans are the guinea pigs. We will see if clusters appear linked to theaters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MrGlass2 said: I would close bars before movie theaters tbh to prevent a second wave but it is just a random guess. There is no data yet on the possible danger of moviegoing, Europeans are the guinea pigs. We will see if clusters appear linked to theaters. no data period in the cases that are reported ww, they dont say or probably know the link so yeah, thee say like that countrie had 100 cases we dont how how these 100 people were infected and for how long, bc the cases reported today it doesnt mean that they were infected today, thats important Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Horror of Lucas Films Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, CJohn said: The fact that some people are cheering so hard for cinemas to end is disgusting. Cinemas are as essencial as restaurants. Yet one can open and the other can't? Let them try to survive. This. It makes me sick coming to this forums and seeing a lot of people (not only this guy), wanting cinemas to stay closed for the rest of the year, as if their money are endless, and they can manage to stay in business for such a long time without working. It's even more hilarious when we consider that we are in a fucking BOX OFFICE forums. My boyfriend works on a cinema here in Brazil, and they already cut off half of the emploeyers because there's not enough money for all of them, and if they stay closed for more months, they'll go bankrupt. If churchs can stay open despite definitely not being an 'essential business', despite sharing the same problemas as cinemas, so can them. At least cinemas pay tax. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, The Horror of Lucas Films said: This. It makes me sick coming to this forums and seeing a lot of people (not only this guy), wanting cinemas to stay closed for the rest of the year, as if their money are endless, and they can manage to stay in business for such a long time without working. It's even more hilarious when we consider that we are in a fucking BOX OFFICE forums. My boyfriend works on a cinema here in Brazil, and they already cut off half of the emploeyers because there's not enough money for all of them, and if they stay closed for more months, they'll go bankrupt. If churchs can stay open despite definitely not being an 'essential business', despite sharing the same problemas as cinemas, so can them. At least cinemas pay tax. this is the point that i try to make, people are talking like cinemas are the ONLY problem, when thats not the case, this doesnt mean that everything will work out fine when theaters open , not at all actually, but to act, that cinemas are that much more dangerous, than beaches, restaurants, cafes ,malls , protests its beyond me, now i am not saying that cinemas are completly safe of course not, there is a reason why cinemas are in late phases of reopening , still the only difference to me between cinemas and other buisness are that depending on the measures, the risk is higher, thats all, plus maybe the most important thing to know its not like if you keep cinemas closed, you will see a noticeable difference in cases, from the moment that the cases cannot be traced back to their origins and the period of time that people had the virus, then all of this is a trivia and all of this conversation between me and everyone else here is just opinions throwed around without any facts whatsoever,at the end of day it doesnt matter, whatever happens ,happens, be cautious and carefully , thats all Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 43 minutes ago, john2000 said: ...... search the internet mate i mean seriously i cant possible recall the exact places, 20+ articles in a day are about covid, if you can see the point that i try to make ok if not, then ok, in any cases i wont continue a conversation that is basically useless, i said what i had to say, you agree fine you disagree fine, the end of it Well yes the internet search seem to be quite unanimous that outdoor transmissions is much rarer than indoor transmission: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/state-and-regional/no-new-covid-19-cases-from-lake-of-the-ozarks-crowds-missouri-health-director-says/article_6f36ad32-d125-5382-b78f-74bd0f6510ac.html https://www.businessinsider.com/risk-of-coronavirus-transmission-lower-outdoors-evidence-2020-5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Barnack said: Well yes the internet search seem to be quite unanimous that outdoor transmissions is much rarer than indoor transmission: https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/state-and-regional/no-new-covid-19-cases-from-lake-of-the-ozarks-crowds-missouri-health-director-says/article_6f36ad32-d125-5382-b78f-74bd0f6510ac.html https://www.businessinsider.com/risk-of-coronavirus-transmission-lower-outdoors-evidence-2020-5 thats not my fucking point, nvr mate, leave it, i never never said that indoors are better than outdoors, jesus, in the comment about i was talking in general again it seems that you dont understand the point that i am trying to make here idk how many times i have to say this i was talking about buisness in general, and if you remember in my first comment i mentioned many indoor i venues i didnt make a comparison between indoor and outdoor, why you have stuck with that idk Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 1 hour ago, john2000 said: thats not my fucking point, nvr mate, leave it, i never never said that indoors are better than outdoors, Well I am sorry to have misinterpreted you when you said (I never said that you said that indoors are better than outdoor, I say that you said that indoor isn't worst than outdoor): thousands of people in beaches in uk, is not better thasn going to movie theater That seem to imply that people not social distancing in outdoor activities is not better than going to the movie theater. Saying something is not better, is making a comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Barnack said: Well I am sorry to have misinterpreted you when you said (I never said that you said that indoors are better than outdoor, I say that you said that indoor isn't worst than outdoor): thousands of people in beaches in uk, is not better thasn going to movie theater That seem to imply that people not social distancing in outdoor activities is not better than going to the movie theater. Saying something is not better, is making a comparison. correction then is not much better , still you stuck with only a fucking example i mentioned a dozen other buisnesses, at the same time you mean to tell me that an auditorium with not even the full cap say 50 cap is much much worse than thousands or hundrerds of people partying in the street ? really ? , i cant judge whats worse no, but still movie theater is not neccerally better than outdoor activities no i did not say that, but i dont think its that much worse plus again for 100 time i also compared other indoor venues so i mean come on................................... you seem to have stuck with one fucking sentence i made 5 comments it seems that you didnt even read any of those .............. Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Just now, john2000 said: correction then is not much better , And I will ask again, source that outdoor activity like going to the beach isn't much better than an indoor one ? People quite knowledgeable in this like jason on this message board and everything I did read with study done seem to indicate that outdoor transmission risk is in a complete different level than a closed indoor environment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Barnack said: And I will ask again, source that outdoor activity like going to the beach isn't much better than an indoor one ? People quite knowledgeable in this like jason on this message board and everything I did read with study done seem to indicate that outdoor transmission risk is in a complete different level than a closed indoor environment. you stuck with one sentence, i compared in one sentece tha hundreds in indoor vs the THOUSANDS OUTDOORS, you stuck with one sentence when in my comments i mentioned indoor venues way more than outdoors jesus fucking christ........ at the same time my point was and it seems that you didnt get it was that to say that ONLY indoor venues have risk but not outdoor is idiotic..................... i have make 6 comments you stuck with only one sentence one of which i may didnt phase it well, or you didnt understand it, for that reason i made more comments in hope to make my point more clear , and you are still sticking with one sentence ps plz read my other comments, and to try to make it as clear as possible in one sentence my point was , some people act like there is no risk in other indoor venues or in outdoor venues even though in some cases THOUSANDS of people gather in the same space outside but the risk is only in movie theaters this has no logic ........ did i make my point clear ? Edited June 30, 2020 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 It looks like BO fell by around 70% in France compared to last year, "half" is positive industry spin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, MrGlass2 said: It looks like BO fell by around 70% in France compared to last year, "half" is positive industry spin. They weren't talking about a direct comparison with the same week last year. They said it was 50% down from an average June week. Let's not forget that June weeks in 2018 are probably pretty bad because of the World Cup. Edited June 30, 2020 by CJohn 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 18 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said: I know as a boxoffice fan I should cheer this, but wtf is wrong with you France. Can't you stay at home for few more months. Edit: So 660k on 5700 screens in 5 days. That's roughly 23 person per screen a day, which would be about 5 a show. I guess that's fine. But if that's just half of normal, France has some pathetic normal. I'm French and didn't go back to theaters yet (no interesting release, waiting for Mulan) but you know there's nothing wrong if rules about social distancing and wearing masks are respected. The transmission rate is at its lowest right now in France almost 2 months after reopening so if it's done well..why not? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) Full week top 10 (22/06-26/06) Rank Movie Distributor Admissions (7 day) Prints Cume Week 1 La bonne épouse (How to be a good wife) Memento Films 125 217 962 338 002 2 2 De Gaulle SND 96 030 1060 691 209 3 3 L'ombre de Staline (Mr. Jones) Condor Films 66 927 382 66 927 1 4 En Avant (Onward) Disney 55 534 722 671 209 3 5 The Demon Inside (The Assent) Alba Films 38 636 272 38 636 1 6 The Invisible Man Universal 32 223 372 661 009 4 7 Filles de Joie KMBO 22 853 260 22 853 1 8 The Hunt Universal 19 217 242 19 217 1 9 Nous les Chiens (The Underdog) The Jokers / Les Bookmakers 19 115 379 19 115 1 10 Radioactive Studiocanal 15 376 278 62 355 2 Many of these are on a much much wider release than they would get under normal circumstances (only uber blockbusters get a 900+ prints release. The all-time record is TFA with 1093 prints, while De Gaulle currently has 1060). La Bonne Epouse seems to be doing really well. Great performance for L'ombre de Staline which is the best opening for independent distributor Condor since Enemy in 2014 and their all-time best performance in terms of ranking. Approx. 870k tickets were sold since the reopening, but that number is likely underreported so the real total is probably closer to 1M admissions for the week. The 19/06-25/06 week last year sold 1,68M tickets (the following week saw the release of Toy Story 4, as well as the beginning of Fête du Cinéma), while the 20/06-26/06 week in 2018 sold 1,6M tickets. It's typically one of the worst weeks of the year because of the heat wave, national exams, little to no new releases, sporting events and proximity to Fête du Cinéma. It's not actually great, but it does seem more than decent for a reopening. On the first two days of reopening, ages 15-24 accounted for 32,7% of the admissions (19,8% on a normal week) and 25-49 for 40% (28,2%), due to the weaker share of 3-14 years old (because schools became mandatory again on the same day as the theaters) and of the 50+ (24,6% against 37,6 usually), per Vertigo. The release schedule so far : 08/07 : Scoob!, Tout Simplement Noir (all-star french comedy), Lucky Strike (korean thriller) 15/07 : Eté 85 (Ozon's latest picture), Divorce Club (another french comedy) 22/07 : Madre, Ip Man 4, The King of Staten Island Edited June 30, 2020 by Parasite 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted July 1, 2020 Share Posted July 1, 2020 10 hours ago, The Horror of Lucas Films said: If churchs can stay open despite definitely not being an 'essential business', despite sharing the same problemas as cinemas, so can them. At least cinemas pay tax but I want even them to remain closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite Posted August 23, 2020 Share Posted August 23, 2020 (edited) Top 10 last week : Rank Title Distributor Admissions Prints PTA Cume Week 1 LES BLAGUES DE TOTO SND 263 107 (+35%) 544 484 468 635 2 2 GREENLAND METROPOLITAN 158 172 (-18%) 538 294 351 574 2 3 YAKARI, LA GRANDE AVENTURE BAC 82 379 481 171 82 379 1 4 BIGFOOT FAMILY APOLLO 82 067 (+12%) 560 147 166 834 2 5 T’AS PÉCHO ? PATHÉ 68 955 (+4%) 628 110 241 697 3 6 LIGHT OF MY LIFE CONDOR 54 198 343 158 56 109 1 7 DIVORCE CLUB SND 50 958 (-4%) 421 121 558 835 5 8 SCOOB ! WARNER 50 436 (-3%) 566 89 676 017 6 9 TOUT SIMPLEMENT NOIR GAUMONT 42 006 (-13%) 335 125 685 613 6 10 VOIR LE JOUR PYRAMIDE 39 081 292 134 42 534 1 The French box office is starting to recover after several weeks of decline. Approx. 1,2M admissions were sold last week. Even though that's still very low (the lowest weeks in 2018 and 2019 sold 1,6M admissions), it's still decent considering the lack of major movies. Since the reopening in late June, Tout Simplement Noir became the highest grossing new release with 685k admissions, closely followed by Scoob!, which had low competition and strong legs, at 676k. Smaller releases were also successes, like Beasts clawing at straws (Lucky Strike) and Yokogao (L'infirmière) which should both surpass the 100k admissions mark. Very nice jump this week for Les Blagues de Toto, another crappy adaptation of a French comic book, despite being unanimously panned by both critics and audiences (1.9/5 on Allociné, 2.6/10 Senscritique). It will crumble after the end of the school break next week but should nevertheless become the biggest movie since the reopening. Decent openings for the new releases. Les Blagues de Toto, Unhinged and Tenet were the first films ever to benefit from a TV advertising campaign (which was not authorized until now). This week (19/08-25/08) should also be flat/slightly up thanks to the openings of Unhinged (which should come in at #2 behind Toto) and of French comedy Belle-fille. Tenet also holds nationwide previews on Monday and Tuesday but it won't be counted towards this week's total. Next week should be the one to really revive the box office with four major releases : Tenet, The New Mutants, Petit Pays and the recipient of the Silver Bear in Berlin, Effacer l'historique. At first glance, local Tenet ps for tomorrow seem to be OK (especially the premium screenings which are close to being sold out) but France isn't usually pre-sale driven and the market is still very unpredictable so I won't risk myself to any prediction yet. Edited August 25, 2020 by Parasite 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rank Title Distributor Admissions Prints PTA Cume Week 1 LES BLAGUES DE TOTO SND 263 107 (+35%) 544 484 468 635 2 2 GREENLAND METROPOLITAN 158 172 (-18%) 538 294 351 574 2 3 YAKARI, LA GRANDE AVENTURE BAC 82 379 481 171 82 379 1 4 BIGFOOT FAMILY APOLLO 82 067 (+12%) 560 147 166 834 2 5 T’AS PÉCHO ? PATHÉ 68 955 (+4%) 628 110 241 697 3 6 LIGHT OF MY LIFE CONDOR 54 198 343 158 56 109 1 7 DIVORCE CLUB SND 50 958 (-4%) 421 121 558 835 5 8 SCOOB ! WARNER 50 436 (-3%) 566 89 676 017 6 9 TOUT SIMPLEMENT NOIR GAUMONT 42 006 (-13%) 335 125 685 613 6 10 VOIR LE JOUR PYRAMIDE 39 081 292 134 42 534 1 The French box office is starting to recover after several weeks of decline. Approx. 1,2M admissions were sold last week. Even though that's still very low (the lowest weeks in 2018 and 2019 sold 1,6M admissions), it's still decent considering the lack of major movies. Since the reopening in late June, Tout Simplement Noir became the highest grossing new release with 685k admissions, closely followed by Scoob!, which had low competition and strong legs, at 676k. Smaller releases were also successes, like Beasts clawing at straws (Lucky Strike) and Yokogao (L'infirmière) which should both surpass the 100k admissions mark. Very nice jump this week for Les Blagues de Toto, another crappy adaptation of a French comic book, despite being unanimously panned by both critics and audiences (1.9/5 on Allociné, 2.6/10 Senscritique). It will crumble after the end of the school break next week but should nevertheless become the biggest movie since the reopening. Decent openings for the new releases. Les Blagues de Toto, Unhinged and Tenet were the first films ever to benefit from a TV advertising campaign (which was not authorized until now). This week (19/08-25/08) should also be flat/slightly up thanks to the openings of Unhinged (which should come in at #2 behind Toto) and of French comedy Belle-fille. Tenet also holds nationwide previews on Monday and Tuesday but it won't be counted towards this week's total. Next week should be the one to really revive the box office with four major releases : Tenet, The New Mutants, Petit Pays and the recipient of the Silver Bear in Berlin, Effacer l'historique. At first glance, local Tenet ps for tomorrow seem to be OK (especially the premium screenings which are close to being sold out) but France isn't usually pre-sale driven and the market is still very unpredictable so I won't risk myself to any prediction yet.
Rank Title Distributor Admissions Prints PTA Cume Week 1 LES BLAGUES DE TOTO SND 263 107 (+35%) 544 484 468 635 2 2 GREENLAND METROPOLITAN 158 172 (-18%) 538 294 351 574 2 3 YAKARI, LA GRANDE AVENTURE BAC 82 379 481 171 82 379 1 4 BIGFOOT FAMILY APOLLO 82 067 (+12%) 560 147 166 834 2 5 T’AS PÉCHO ? PATHÉ 68 955 (+4%) 628 110 241 697 3 6 LIGHT OF MY LIFE CONDOR 54 198 343 158 56 109 1 7 DIVORCE CLUB SND 50 958 (-4%) 421 121 558 835 5 8 SCOOB ! WARNER 50 436 (-3%) 566 89 676 017 6 9 TOUT SIMPLEMENT NOIR GAUMONT 42 006 (-13%) 335 125 685 613 6 10 VOIR LE JOUR PYRAMIDE 39 081 292 134 42 534 1 The French box office is starting to recover after several weeks of decline. Approx. 1,2M admissions were sold last week. Even though that's still very low (the lowest weeks in 2018 and 2019 sold 1,6M admissions), it's still decent considering the lack of major movies. Since the reopening in late June, Tout Simplement Noir became the highest grossing new release with 685k admissions, closely followed by Scoob!, which had low competition and strong legs, at 676k. Smaller releases were also successes, like Beasts clawing at straws (Lucky Strike) and Yokogao (L'infirmière) which should both surpass the 100k admissions mark. Very nice jump this week for Les Blagues de Toto, another crappy adaptation of a French comic book, despite being unanimously panned by both critics and audiences (1.9/5 on Allociné, 2.6/10 Senscritique). It will crumble after the end of the school break next week but should nevertheless become the biggest movie since the reopening. Decent openings for the new releases. Les Blagues de Toto, Unhinged and Tenet were the first films ever to benefit from a TV advertising campaign (which was not authorized until now). This week (19/08-25/08) should also be flat/slightly up thanks to the openings of Unhinged (which should come in at #2 behind Toto) and of French comedy Belle-fille. Tenet also holds nationwide previews on Monday and Tuesday but it won't be counted towards this week's total. Next week should be the one to really revive the box office with four major releases : Tenet, The New Mutants, Petit Pays and the recipient of the Silver Bear in Berlin, Effacer l'historique. At first glance, local Tenet ps for tomorrow seem to be OK (especially the premium screenings which are close to being sold out) but France isn't usually pre-sale driven and the market is still very unpredictable so I won't risk myself to any prediction yet.
