efialtes76 Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 (edited) Wednesday Eternals increased! 89,296 Tomb of the River-32,745 Dune-18,689 Edited November 10, 2021 by efialtes76 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 2019 Attendance January - 18,122,443 February - 22,277,733 March - 14,671,693 April - 13,338,962 May - 18,062,457 June - 22,845,579 July - 21,916,465 August - 24,786,121 September - 14,733,642 October - 14,858,383 = 185,613,478 2020 Attendance January - 16,843,695 February - 7,372,370 (-67%) *Covid March - 1,834,722 (-87.5%) April - 972,572 (-92.7%) May - 1,526,236 (-91.5%) June - 3,864,533 (-83%) July - 5,618,701 (-74.3%) August - 8,834,741 (-64.3%) September - 2,988,680 (-79.7%) October - 4,633,636 (-68.8%) = 54,489,886 (-70.6%) 2021 Attendance January - 1,786,117 (-89.3%) February - 3,111,920 (-57.8%) March - 3,256,510 (+77%) April - 2,562,143 (+163%) May - 4,378,146 (+187%) June - 4,927,991 (+27.5%) July - 6,976,452 (-21%) August - 7,910,074 (+24.1%) September - 5,412,323 (-10.4%) October - 5,192,073 (+12%) = 45,515,232 () compare to previous year ------------------------------------------------ 2020 vs 2021 (Feb to Oct ) +16.1% 2019 vs 2021 -75.4% 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Kenni Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 58 minutes ago, imbruglia said: 2019 Attendance January - 18,122,443 February - 22,277,733 March - 14,671,693 April - 13,338,962 May - 18,062,457 June - 22,845,579 July - 21,916,465 August - 24,786,121 September - 14,733,642 October - 14,858,383 = 185,613,478 2020 Attendance January - 16,843,695 February - 7,372,370 (-67%) *Covid March - 1,834,722 (-87.5%) April - 972,572 (-92.7%) May - 1,526,236 (-91.5%) June - 3,864,533 (-83%) July - 5,618,701 (-74.3%) August - 8,834,741 (-64.3%) September - 2,988,680 (-79.7%) October - 4,633,636 (-68.8%) = 54,489,886 (-70.6%) 2021 Attendance January - 1,786,117 (-89.3%) February - 3,111,920 (-57.8%) March - 3,256,510 (+77%) April - 2,562,143 (+163%) May - 4,378,146 (+187%) June - 4,927,991 (+27.5%) July - 6,976,452 (-21%) August - 7,910,074 (+24.1%) September - 5,412,323 (-10.4%) October - 5,192,073 (+12%) = 45,515,232 () compare to previous year ------------------------------------------------ 2020 vs 2021 (Feb to Oct ) +16.1% 2019 vs 2021 -75.4% Wow! Comparing 2019 & 2021 Sep & Oct numbers, the admissions are almost just 1/3 what they used to be!! We're not talking about 20-25% pandemic downward pull but much much larger numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted November 10, 2021 Share Posted November 10, 2021 @imbruglia Do you think that 10 millions admissions are possible for NWH ? What are your predictions here for Spidey ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 5 hours ago, LPLC said: @imbruglia Do you think that 10 millions admissions are possible for NWH ? What are your predictions here for Spidey ? no. no idea. maybe +5M? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPLC Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 hours ago, imbruglia said: no. no idea. maybe +5M? Do you think that there will be a drop in the admissions level compared to FFH (8,023M admissions) ? And if so, why ? (Covid ? No hype ? Disinterest in Spiderman ?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 3 hours ago, LPLC said: Do you think that there will be a drop in the admissions level compared to FFH (8,023M admissions) ? And if so, why ? (Covid ? No hype ? Disinterest in Spiderman ?) 2019 vs 2021 -75.4% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 (edited) 11-11 Thursday 1. Eternals - 72,057 -19.5% (1,964,459) / 6,796 showings 2. Tomb of the River - 24,720 -24.8% (59,625) / 2,360 showings 3. Dune - 17,349 -7.3% (1,073,432) / 1,500 showings 4. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Kyoudai no Kizuna - 5,854 -56.1% (19,178) / 904 showings 5. The Addams Family 2 - 4,998 -36.9% (13,090) / 1,043 showings 7. Venom 2 - 2,525 -12.1% (2,095,245) / 382 showings pretty much same drop as BW. (-20.8%) KOBIS pre-sale 12:00 AM 1. Eternals - 94,815 2. Dune - 26,581 3. Only genre is romance - 21,271 Edited November 11, 2021 by imbruglia 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Second Week Friday to Sunday Black Widow 88,114 (+33.4%) 187,412 (+112.7%) 169,993 (-9.3%) 2,139,242 F9 66,361 (+34.7%) 155,662 (134.6%) 138,628 (-10.9%) 1,750,433 Venom 2 66,782 (+54.2%) 146,651 (+119.6%) 129,443 (-11.7%) 1,649,290 Shang-Chi 49,797 (+33.1%) 127,226 (+155.5%) 120,466 (-5.3%) 1,226,628 007 NTD 34,895 (+36.5%) 81,909 (+134.7%) 95,990 (+17.2%) 67,512 (-29.7%) 1,048,708 *Monday, Substitute Holiday 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 36 minutes ago, imbruglia said: 2019 vs 2021 -75.4% thats not really an argument to be honest in 2019 you had in dollars aladdin 91 lion king 35 captain marvel 43 spiderman far from home 56 avengers endgame 105 joker 38 parasite 71 toy story 4 24 and i dont even count frozen 2 vs 2021 so far black widow 26 eternals 30 maybe bond 10 shang chi 16 venom 2 20 mill or so i mean there is no comparison here, now i am not saying that covid hasnt affect things but the problem lies with the products themselves too,most of the 2021 slate is basically the 2020 one.Even before covid ,the 2020 slate didnt had that many blockbusters compare to 2019.In my opinion a more fair comparison would be the 2022 vs 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 I suggest a delay release to March 2022 if you all still want 10M admissions. I have tried hard to explain but unless Eternals break 4M, I can not think anything high than 5M for NWH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Issac Newton said: I suggest a delay release to March 2022 if you all still want 10M admissions. I have tried hard to explain but unless Eternals break 4M, I can not think anything high than 5M for NWH. you do realise that this doesnt make sense right, thats a wrong way to judge a movie .Not every movie has the same ceiling dude check the 2019 mcu release in korea you had a movie breaking 40 while another movie came close to 110 and in that same year with endgame you also had toy story 4 that came with "only" 24 mill but then was followed by frozen 2 that made 95 mill there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, john2000 said: you do realise that this doesnt make sense right, thats a wrong way to judge a movie .Not every movie has the same ceiling dude check the 2019 mcu release in korea you had a movie breaking 40 while another movie came close to 110 and in that same year with endgame you also had toy story 4 that came with "only" 24 mill but then was followed by frozen 2 that made 95 mill there. Sorry, I am not judging/ underestimating NWH. But, there must be a good reasoning like market is at 4M-5M. We can not compare situation like NTTD at UK or Mugen Train at Japan. NWH is neither a home franchise of Korea that it will blast at release. Also neither of rumour are confirmed at present. Atleast, for the present scenario consider 5M-7M as graph 📈 We will see if 10M is possible or not after pre-sale start. Till then, let us stop here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 Just now, Issac Newton said: Sorry, I am not judging/ underestimating NWH. But, there must be a good reasoning like market is at 4M-5M. We can not compare situation like NTTD at UK or Mugen Train at Japan. NWH is neither a home franchise of Korea that it will blast at release. Also neither of rumour are confirmed at present. Atleast, for the present scenario consider 5M-7M as graph 📈 We will see if 10M is possible or not after pre-sale start. Till then, let us stop here. I wasnt talking about 10 mill , my bad here i should have make it clear.I was speaking in general i have no idea how spiderman will do in korea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted November 11, 2021 Share Posted November 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Issac Newton said: I suggest a delay release to March 2022 if you all still want 10M admissions. I have tried hard to explain but unless Eternals break 4M, I can not think anything high than 5M for NWH. NWH will do much much much better than Eternals, it's a new EP vs a very popular hero with the last movie doing 8m. I am not saying 10m is realistic or on the card but saying that if Eternals only does 3.5m this means NWH can't go over 5m is a bit strange. Doing more than 35% better than an unknow super hero IP is always doable for a hyped spiderman movie. Obviously depending on the covid situation. I do agree with ur that going under FFH is likely and that korea current admission are a lot lower than precovid. That said i do think over 5m is locked! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 6 hours ago, pepsa said: Obviously depending on the covid situation. I do agree with ur that going under FFH is likely and that korea current admission are a lot lower than precovid. Exactly, that's what I mean. We are actually not matching 2019 level (pre-CoVid19 /although we are a little higher than 2020). I don't have any issues in going up from 5M admissions. But, that 10M is really unreasonable as we are still vastly behind 2019 if we are really planning it to happen. I do consider Eternals as an new IP, but for a better comparison, I told Eternals need to break that 4M, so we can think anything higher for NWH. (Roughly, I meant that we can expect more mobilization in Dec release.) I am just locked up 🔐 in 5M-7M mobilization here. Rest are definitely depending on pre-sales which would clear the uplimit forecast of NWH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie Jatinder Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Seems like 105-110K 2nd FRI. 575K (-50%) 2nd weekend is likely, total 2.54M by end of Sunday. Full run 3.35-3.5M possible. ($29-31M) It started as 71% of Thor 3 on OD which was Cultural day and went on to 82% on Thursday, so that's more like real ratio, and now dailies are 68% of Thor Ragnarok, so WOM impact isn't that bad considering Thor 3 is one of the most loved MCU film, though in Korea it did just good. Edited November 12, 2021 by charlie Jatinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 11-12 Friday 1. Eternals - 95,992 +32.9% (2,060,596) / 7,198 showings 2. Tomb of the River - 27,249 +9.8% (86,980) / 2,458 showings3. Dune - 26,122 +50.5% (1,099,557) / 1,638 showings 4. The Addams Family 2 - 5,822 +16.2% (18,926) / 1,046 showings 5. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Kyoudai no Kizuna - 5,092 -12.9% (24,261) / 816 showings 6. Venom 2 - 3,373 +32.4% (2,098,640) / 412 showings compare to last week's Friday Eternals -57.6%Dune -2% KOBIS pre-sale 12:00 AM 1. Eternals - 111,244 2. Dune - 31,314 3. Only genre is romance - 22,995 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) Eternals : $18.3M (Total) Dune will pass $10M tomorrow 🎊 Edited November 12, 2021 by Issac Newton 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imbruglia Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 23 hours ago, john2000 said: thats not really an argument to be honest in 2019 you had in dollars i mean there is no comparison here, now i am not saying that covid hasnt affect things but the problem lies with the products themselves too,most of the 2021 slate is basically the 2020 one.Even before covid ,the 2020 slate didnt had that many blockbusters compare to 2019.In my opinion a more fair comparison would be the 2022 vs 2019 it wasn't that deep when I just copy and past it because I'm tired of reacting to basic question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...