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14 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Looks like I might have been wrong about Elemental getting to the top 50 of Foreign Films in Korea this week... don't know if it can get to 300,000+ more admits by the end of Sunday.

I think Conan is absorbing a lot of demand isnt it? Although a poster before said that it didnt stay long. I wouldnt be so sure, it has been kind of a hit almost everywhere in Asia where it has been played. Not in the levles of The First Slam Dunk but quite good nonetheless.

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11 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Looks like I might have been wrong about Elemental getting to the top 50 of Foreign Films in Korea this week... don't know if it can get to 300,000+ more admits by the end of Sunday.

 

Why?  It's current Thur is running ahead of last Thur by at least 30%.  Conan is affecting it from being bigger today but it started out as 28% of Conan and is now at 50% and will probably be around 60% by the end of the day.  It's had bigger walk-ups - 30k v  22k.  We''l see what the pre-sales for Conan are tomorrow

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7 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

 

Why?  It's current Thur is running ahead of last Thur by at least 30%.  Conan is affecting it from being bigger today but it started out as 28% of Conan and is now at 50% and will probably be around 60% by the end of the day.  It's had bigger walk-ups - 30k v  22k.  We''l see what the pre-sales for Conan are tomorrow

OK I'll trust that judgement. I was just panicking because Conan seemed to be shifting demand.

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10 minutes ago, Bob-omb said:

I think Conan is absorbing a lot of demand isnt it? Although a poster before said that it didnt stay long. I wouldnt be so sure, it has been kind of a hit almost everywhere in Asia where it has been played. Not in the levles of The First Slam Dunk but quite good nonetheless.

Conan has already fallen down to #3 for PS on kobis and will clearly fall below elementals as well so #4 by end of the day - combine it with honestly pretty underwhelming walkups and it's pretty obviously a fan-heavy frontloaded film.

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Korea isn't a traditional strong market for Conan (Outside China &Vietnam, Conan doesn't have pull in any country) - but it's building it's market with impressive OW improvement over each sequel.

 

When, Final Conan Film releases it's obviously will be doing more numbers then what we expect today.

 

So, far I am impressed with Conan 2023 Numbers in Korea. Not necessary to compare it with Elemental but also not necessary to called it "fan-heavily frontloaded film" because it's able to improve it's former films number - this should be a straight cut for atleast 1M admits I guess.

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6 minutes ago, JustLurking said:

Conan has already fallen down to #3 for PS on kobis and will clearly fall below elementals as well so #4 by end of the day - combine it with honestly pretty underwhelming walkups and it's pretty obviously a fan-heavy frontloaded film.

Right. I stand corrected :)

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1 hour ago, cannastop said:

Looks like I might have been wrong about Elemental getting to the top 50 of Foreign Films in Korea this week... don't know if it can get to 300,000+ more admits by the end of Sunday.

That would mean it drops more than 50% this weekend if it misses that, no way will that happen. 5m admits by the end of Sunday seems likely as well.

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% Change from WED: 7PM
 
MI7:  -10.52%
Elemental -14.07%
Barbie -46.64%
Insidious: RD: -43.59%
 
July 20, 2023 - THUR : 7PM
 
Rank Title Release Date Daily Gross
(Total)
Admissions
(Total)
Number of Screens Revenue Share
1  

Detective Conan The Movie: Black Iron Submarine

 

Jul 20, 2023 $779,007
($824,079)
111,525
(116,178)
1,027 29.92%
2  

Mission: Impossible

Jul 12, 2023 $676,068
($17,671,859)
89,477
(2,217,469)
1,646 25.96%
3  

Elemental

 

Jun 14, 2023 $425,593
($35,324,335)
59,734
(4,547,842)
940 16.34%
4  

Barbie

 

Jul 19, 2023 $226,778
($695,315)
33,280
(99,706)
721 8.71%
5  

Insidious: The Red Door

 

Jul 19, 2023 $208,831
($674,308)
28,486
(89,945)
717 8.02%
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July 20, 2023 - THUR : 9PM
 
Rank Title Release Date Daily Gross
(Total)
Admissions
(Total)
Number of Screens Revenue Share
1  

Detective Conan The Movie: Black Iron Submarine

 

Jul 20, 2023 $805,926
($850,945)
115,211
(119,864)
1,030 28.71%
2  

Mission: Impossible

Jul 12, 2023 $744,698
($17,720,463)
98,166
(2,226,158)
1,660 26.53%
3  

Elemental

 

Jun 14, 2023 $464,499
($35,322,119)
64,695
(4,552,803)
943 16.54%
4  

Barbie

 

Jul 19, 2023 $244,699
($712,684)
35,623
(102,049)
732 8.71%
5  

Insidious: The Red Door

 

Jul 19, 2023 $237,528
($702,456)
32,246
(93,705)
724 8.46%
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23 hours ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:

Total Presales for the upcoming days as of Wednesday 00:00

 

 

Elemental - 68,445 (-13.8% LW)

MI7 - 139,015 (-51.1% LW)

Barbie - 45,267 (-26.1% YD)

Detective Conan (T-0) - 126,340

Insidious - 29,327 (-30.1% YD)

Smugglers (T-6) - 75,110

Ransomed (T-13) - 19,373

 

Elemental continues to lose pace versus last week in presales but the walkups look promising as Wednesday finished considerably higher than last week. We'll see how Conan shakes things up tomorrow.

 

To give some context behind Barbie and Insidious's percentage changes from yesterday, MI7 dropped just 6.2% in presales on its first Thursday so this doesn't bode well for either's IM, nor legs, though we'll have to wait and see.

 

Smugglers is running at 73% of MI7's T-6 checkpoint. It doesn't look like it will suck the air out of the room and drop a 3m opener but we'll have to wait and see if it ramps up in the final week.

Total Presales for the upcoming days as of Thursday 00:00

 

 

Elemental - 87,659 (-17.6% LW)

MI7 - 165,821 (-49.0% LW)

Barbie - 50,351

Detective Conan - 78,997

Insidious - 29,456

Smugglers (T-5) - 82,194

Ransomed (T-12) - 18,524

 

Kinda meh all around, I think Elemental will drop this weekend as next weeks weekdays will take priority for some viewers as schools are off. Smugglers is now running at just 62.7% of MI7's T-5 which could be a good sign for Elemental and MI7's longevity next weekend.

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7 minutes ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:

Total Presales for the upcoming days as of Thursday 00:00

 

 

Elemental - 87,659 (-17.6% LW)

MI7 - 165,821 (-49.0% LW)

Barbie - 50,351

Detective Conan - 78,997

Insidious - 29,456

Smugglers (T-5) - 82,194

Ransomed (T-12) - 18,524

 

Kinda meh all around, I think Elemental will drop this weekend as next weeks weekdays will take priority for some viewers as schools are off. Smugglers is now running at just 62.7% of MI7's T-5 which could be a good sign for Elemental and MI7's longevity next weekend.

looked at smugglers cgv audience reviews and its was around 91 CGV level, i don't think its gonna have great legs

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23 hours ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:

Showings for Wednesday July 19

 

Comparing with yesterday

 

MI7: 6,585 showings (-20%), 113,273 admissions (-4%), 17.2 PSA (+21%)

Elemental: 3,626 showings (-6%), 77,903 admissions (+20%), 21.5 PSA (+28%)

Barbie: 3,007 showings, 66,395 admissions, 22.1 PSA

Insidious: 1,993 showings, 61,089 admissions, 30.7 PSA

 

Some Wednesday OD PSAs for reference:

 

MI7: 24.0

Elemental: 14.1

The Flash: 15.5

ATSV: 17.6

Indy 5: 27.2

 

Wouldn't read too much into it since some movies are more frontloaded and get better PSA initially before fading quickly during the OW.

 

Showings for Thursday July 20

 

Comparing with yesterday

 

Detective Conan: 2,683 showings, 117,904 admissions, 43.9 PSA

MI7: 5,887 showings (-11%), 102,913 admissions (-9%), 17.5 PSA (+2%)

Elemental: 3,020 showings (-16%), 67,301 admissions (-14%), 22.3 PSA (+4%)

Barbie: 2,326 showings (-23%), 36,814 admissions (-45%), 15.8 PSA (-29%)

Insidious: 1,643 showings (-18%), 36,414 admissions (-40%), 22.2 PSA (-28%)

 

As I expected, Conan does deal some damage to Elemental, and the combined effect of MI7 + Conan + Barbie + Insidious manages to take away more showings from it than MI7 alone in its debut last week (Elemental had 3,157 showings last Thursday). Barbie's performance has been poor though and Insidious is dropping fast so I expect it to win some screens back from both over the weekend and theatres are gonna give Conan a fair shot after what was a great opening day even if the walkups were low.

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8 minutes ago, GOGODanca said:

looked at smugglers cgv audience reviews and its was around 91 CGV level, i don't think its gonna have great legs

It really does feel like Elemental has been blessed by the luck of the gods in its run so far. Flash + Indy flopping, MI7 being good but not as big as past entries, Conan, Barbie and Insidious all looking frontloaded and now Smugglers getting mixed reviews just as the school holidays are about to kick in.

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On 7/19/2023 at 4:24 PM, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:

CGV starts - Thursday 00:20

 

Elemental - 11,000 (+44% LW, n/c YD)

MI7 - 16,000 (-33% LW, -6% YD)

Detective Conan - "44,000 on the day" (seems high)

Barbie - N/A

Insidious - 7,647 (-70% YD)

 

Admission starts - Thursday 01:00

 

Elemental - 22,582 (+30% LW, -2% YD, 846 screens)

MI7 - 34,033 (-38% LW, -4% YD, 1,476 screens)

Detective Conan - 82,632 (wow it really is that high, 985 screens)

Barbie - 18,220 (-55% YD, 671 screens)

Insidious - 12,829 (-49% YD, 625 screens)

CGV starts - Friday 00:20

 

Elemental - 17,000 (+42% LW, +55% YD)

MI7 - 27,000 (-23% LW, +69% YD)

Detective Conan - 26,000 (-41% YD)

Barbie - 13,000

Insidious - 8,246 (+8% YD)

 

Admission starts - Friday 01:00

 

Elemental - 33,162 (+14% LW, +47% YD, 922 screens)

MI7 - 53,168 (-35% LW, +56% YD, 1,564 screens)

Detective Conan - 42,985 (-48% YD, 951 screens)

Barbie - 23,403 (+28% YD, 676 screens)

Insidious - 14,475 (+13% YD, 661 screens)

 

Really high CGV ratio today

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% Change from THUR: 11PM
MI7:  +49.34%
Conan: -43.83%
Elemental +40.54%
Barbie +25.57%
Insidious: RD: +12.63%
 
% Change from FRI to FRI
MI7:  -36.06%
Elemental +11.77%
 
 
July 21 2023 - FRIDAY 11AM
 
Rank Title Release Date Daily Gross
(Total)
Admissions
(Total)
Number of Screens Revenue Share
1  

Mission: Impossible

Jul 12, 2023 $526,344
($18,165,139)
68,243
(2,299,260)
1,610 31.81%
2  

Detective Conan The Movie: Black Iron Submarine

 

Jul 20, 2023 $334,667
($1,201,363)
49,834
(172,423)
968 20.22%
3  

Elemental

 

Jun 14, 2023 $300,677
($35,402,442)
43,768
(4,599,242)
961 18.17%
4  

Barbie

 

Jul 19, 2023 $174,871
($892,967)
26,788
(130,054)
697 10.56%
5  

Insidious: The Red Door

 

Jul 19, 2023 $120,593
($854,179)
16,886
(114,917)
689 7.28%
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% Change from FRI to FRI 1PM
MI7:  -37.54%
Elemental +11.24%
 
 
July 21 2023 - FRIDAY 1PM
 
Rank Title Release Date Daily Gross
(Total)
Admissions
(Total)
Number of Screens Revenue Share
1  

Mission: Impossible

Jul 12, 2023 $615,158
($18,249,823)
79,807
(2,310,824)
1,628 32.47%
2  

Detective Conan

 

Jul 20, 2023 $372,177
($1,238,646)
54,956
(177,545)
980 19.64%
3  

Elemental

 

Jun 14, 2023 $356,510
($35,450,061)
50,985
(4,606,459)
984 18.81%
4  

Barbie

 

Jul 19, 2023 $195,526
($913,453)
29,648
(132,914)
709 10.32%
5  

Insidious: The Red Door

U.S.

Jul 19, 2023 $135,930
($869,345)
18,935
(116,966)
700 7.17%
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