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Shawn Robbins

The Dark Knight Rises

By Shawn Robbins, in Review That Movie! (Spoilers Allowed)

  

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Adm56 Sleeper Hit

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Could you imagine a billionaire dressing up as Batman in the real world? It wouldn't make sense as well.

Fair enough...but don't you reach a suspension of disbelief quota at some point? And don't say it's because it's a comic book movie. Nolan has tried as much as he can to stand apart from that genre throughout the entire trilogy. Hell Nolanites often use that as some sort of badge of honor.My biggest problem is that a city of millions is just going to meekly go into house arrest and stay off the streets? Nobody will try to escape? Not ONE person will say 'screw everyone else! I can make it alone!'. Now some folks will say 'That happened off screen...do you have to have everything spelled out for you?'. And my answer will be Yes! if that something INCREASES the drama rather than takes away from it. As absurd as the whole city as a hostage thing is it MIGHT have been compelling if I saw a cross section of how the city might react. But it's almost as if they forgot to hire extras for that entire part of the shoot and Gotham is about as populated as the set of an abstract one act play! Plot holes aside it's lame and seriously takes away from the awesome 'scale' they are trying to accomplish.
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redfirebird2008 Global Phenomenon

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Fair enough...but don't you reach a suspension of disbelief quota at some point? And don't say it's because it's a comic book movie. Nolan has tried as much as he can to stand apart from that genre throughout the entire trilogy.

I disagree. BB is very comic booky. TDK tries to be less comic booky, but some of the shit in that movie is very over the top and would never happen in the real world. How does the Joker pull off that school bus bank robbery? How does the Joker manage to rig a hospital with a bunch of explosives? And what the hell is up with that sonar junk that Batman uses?
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It wasn't really Osama anyway, he died about 5 years ago, but that's besides the point.

Honestly, we Europeans just want Obama re-elected and not this other troll, so we happily live with the idea it was actually Bin-Ladin they killed. ;)
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You know why TDK didn't bother most of us? even though some of it might have been far fetched, you were more invested in the film that you could overlook some of the impossibilities. Yes, rigging the hospital would be difficult, but not impossible. Yes, the boats would be very difficult. The bank robbery however, if planned and timed to a tee would not be impossible. But that's all besides the point. The point is TDK drew you in and you loved. You loved everything about it. For those of us who didn't feel that same connection with TDKR, it's much easier to hate all the impossibilities and lack of logic. It's easier to be more forgiving when you are entertained and emotionally invested in the film. For me, TDKR left me feeling empty. And that's why everything was magnified.

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You know why TDK didn't bother most of us? even though some of it might have been far fetched, you were more invested in the film that you could overlook some of the impossibilities. Yes, rigging the hospital would be difficult, but not impossible. Yes, the boats would be very difficult. The bank robbery however, if planned and timed to a tee would not be impossible. But that's all besides the point. The point is TDK drew you in and you loved. You loved everything about it. For those of us who didn't feel that same connection with TDKR, it's much easier to hate all the impossibilities and lack of logic. It's easier to be more forgiving when you are entertained and emotionally invested in the film. For me, TDKR left me feeling empty. And that's why everything was magnified.

Fair enough, but I didn't love everything in TDK. One thing I really liked about TDKR is that it had zero scenes with extra acting as bad as Dent's press conference in TDK. That shit took me out of the movie while watching it. "Things are worse than everrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!" "He should turn himself innnnn!!!!!!!!" "No more dead cops!!!!!!!" Horrid acting, some of the worst I've seen.
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Fair enough, but I didn't love everything in TDK. One thing I really liked about TDKR is that it had zero scenes with extra acting as bad as Dent's press conference in TDK. That shit took me out of the movie while watching it. "Things are worse than everrrrrrrrr!!!!!!!" "He should turn himself innnnn!!!!!!!!" "No more dead cops!!!!!!!" Horrid acting, some of the worst I've seen.

The CIA guy during the plane sequence in TDKR was pretty bad IMO.
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The CIA guy during the plane sequence in TDKR was pretty bad IMO.

Yes he was, but so were Joker's clown robbers in the TDK heist. Those guys all used the cheesiest New York accents possible, and the dialogue was terrible during that scene (just like the terrible dialogue in TDKR's plane scene). In both instances, Joker and Bane were given some good lines but the rest of the characters were pretty awful during those opening scenes.
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As mentioned I think much of this depends on the villain - I can easily overlook the impropabilities in TDK because it's, you know, the Joker, and he's, you know, crazy, so nobody expects him to do the logical or sensible thing anyway. As much as I liked Bane, he's NOT that crazy and neither is the League of Shadows and that's where TDKR falls short. It's hard having a "serious" villain pull impropable stunts. Imagine the Joker planting a bomb in the center of Gotham - well why not? With Bane you begin to ask "how" and "why" ...

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Uhm....I don't live in a place where we get a lot of ice but I find it hard to believe that ice thickens THAT much when the sun goes down. In any case if the ice can be walked on aren't they just letting people loose rather than punishing them? And if they leave the island by any means doesn't that mean Bane would blow it up? And in a city of millions not ONE person would panic and attempt to escape via the ice and to hell with everyone else? The concept of Gotham as a hostage just doesn't work. Or maybe it WOULD if we were shown scenes where the people of Gotham had realistic reactions to their predicament.

I know people who have walked across ice. Lakes and rivers freeze at night more than the day. Bane had people around the river. Remember Blake went down their was stopped by other guys not escorting Gordon.
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Adm56 Sleeper Hit

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I don't care how crazy the Joker is, there is no way to rig a hospital with that many explosives. Corruption isn't rampant enough to pull that off.

But we don't know how long he had to rig it! Maybe it was one of those 5 month time bombs! That would be classic Nolan!
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