John Marston Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Really? How so? Did MOS drop hard in Brazil when Wolvie opened? yeah last week the drop was 37% and this week 58% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 yeah last week the drop was 37% and this week 58% Yikes, that's a big drop. I wonder if 20M in Brazil is still possible for MOS. I think it's at around 14M right now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yikes, that's a big drop. I wonder if 20M in Brazil is still possible for MOS. I think it's at around 14M right now?Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Because you can't ignore changes in the size of the market, OS grosses are simply not the same as they used to be. To put it in perspective, IM was the 11th biggest film in the year it came out, MOS's gross would have placed it at number 12 last year. Spidermans numbers were indeed insanely good, more impressive then TDKR. Spiderman is the most successful SH adjusted at the boxoffice. for a first run by far..2.5 billion from 3 movies and approaching 4 billion with TASM added to the SM success. Also Superman had more to overcome, with horrible movies, its nearly 700+M WW after Superman Returns lack luster amongst GA and Superman 4 flop is outstanding!!. Though I would have loved to have hit 900-1B+ .. No matter MOS2 should do just that and possibly smack around the avengers. Stay tuned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yikes, that's a big drop. I wonder if 20M in Brazil is still possible for MOS. I think it's at around 14M right now? Should hit 20-21M over there I think Sam.. Dont worry ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yikes, that's a big drop. I wonder if 20M in Brazil is still possible for MOS. I think it's at around 14M right now? Should hit 20-21M over there I think Sam.. Dont worry ;D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Is there any hope of 700M WW all? Hope so. ..What territorries are left? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Is there any hope of 700M WW all? Hope so. ..What territorries are left? Biggest left is Japan. It'll need at least 30M there and I'm not sure that's possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) Biggest left is Japan. It'll need at least 30M there and I'm not sure that's possible. It'll need 40M+ from Japan for any chance at 700M. Current OS markets and US will finish with total around 655M-660M, could be lower. I'm thinking 365M OS (without Japan) and giving it 295M domestic as the absolute high end (I think it's unlikely though, 290-292 sounds like a safer bet) Edited July 31, 2013 by Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalel009Shel Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It'll need 40M+ from Japan for any chance at 700M. Current OS markets and US will finish with total around 655M-660M, could be lower. I'm thinking 365M OS (without Japan) and giving it 295M domestic as the absolute high end (I think it's unlikely though, 290-292 sounds like a safer bet) It'll need 40M+ from Japan for any chance at 700M. Current OS markets and US will finish with total around 655M-660M, could be lower. I'm thinking 365M OS (without Japan) and giving it 295M domestic as the absolute high end (I think it's unlikely though, 290-292 sounds like a safer bet) Think Positive Sam And Dru. You just never know with Supes and Japan.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathlife Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 (edited) I'm not sure why people keep making this argument to justify why films like IM1 didn't do that well overseas. SM1 done $400m OS all the way back in 2002, yes it's spider-man etc, but BB didn't manage it, neither did SR. Infact I'd argue that Spider-man has done more to popularise superhero's across the globe then any other single comic book character over the past 10 years. As to your other points, well none of that changes the fact that MOS has grossed more WW then either of the first 2 Iron Man films. Well, at the time, Iron Man was a b-lister and when you adjust IM1 and 2 WW gross (dont forget to add in 3-D).its pretty close to MOS. Edited July 31, 2013 by Deathlife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Why SPIDER-MAN is popular around the world despite a rather awkward direction by Raimi? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bballman24 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Why SPIDER-MAN is popular around the world despite a rather awkward direction by Raimi? SM1 is a good origin movie. SM2 is one of the best movies out there. SM3 got fucked by Sony execs. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zackzack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Japan may give MoS the last bump it needs. Last weekend overseas is only $7M (my source is Mojo, so somebody check other sources), this movie is slowly grinding to a halt. Brazil is not so hot, so Japan needs to pick up the slack to carry it to $700M WW. It will be a cruel twist of fate for WB to miss 2 milestones at 2 fronts (DOM $300M, WW $700M) for its most anticipated new franchise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seng Wah Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Japan may give MoS the last bump it needs. Last weekend overseas is only $7M (my source is Mojo, so somebody check other sources), this movie is slowly grinding to a halt. Brazil is not so hot, so Japan needs to pick up the slack to carry it to $700M WW. It will be a cruel twist of fate for WB to miss 2 milestones at 2 fronts (DOM $300M, WW $700M) for its most anticipated new franchise. If they aim for a billion franchise (JL), they should have faced all of these first. 660+mil is fine for me and a good start for MoS ^^ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyla Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Why SPIDER-MAN is popular around the world despite a rather awkward direction by Raimi? my take b/c of James Franco Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadDevil Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Do you think domestic audiences had more interest in Tasm than Jaws? The Hangover 2 more than Raiders of The Lost Ark? Alice In Wonderland over Forrest Gump? Superman Returns more than Gone With The Wind? Interest in films can't be measured by simple grosses when there are several years in between, if you IM numbers compared to its peers, and MOS numbers compared to its peers, then the performance is similar. But my point is SM1 and even SM3 came out before IM1 and yet still managed huge numbers OS, thereby proving it was possible for a superhero movie to break out big with existing markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subzero Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Think Positive Sam And Dru. You just never know with Supes and Japan.. 700WW would be nice -- but honestly at the way tis' going now even with Japan -- I think $680 WW is more like it. That's pretty darn good for a start. Can't complaint -- Second best start for a Reboot Franchise. I'm pretty sure MOS2:WF will blow this number out of the water. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 But my point is SM1 and even SM3 came out before IM1 and yet still managed huge numbers OS, thereby proving it was possible for a superhero movie to break out big with existing markets. No one doubts that SM grosses are far more impressive than IM1 (or MOS). The question is between IM1 and MOS, and I think they are pretty comparable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 No one doubts that SM grosses are far more impressive than IM1 (or MOS). The question is between IM1 and MOS, and I think they are pretty comparable. Agreed. In fact, SM1 is similar to IM3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
