Fullbuster Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Crazy forecasts : 500m OS I want to believe in a real surprise A huge WOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 (edited) Nobody expected The Avengers to reach $1.5B WW, and I don't mention Avatar...A real surprise can be expected given the scale of this movie, I want to hope and there are many reasons to hope Success of both were unexpected but, reasons why Avengers made 1.5B ww 1. It was the first superhero Team up of all favourite superheroes of MCU 2. The worldwide recognition of all those major superheroes thanks to the solo films of MCU started with Iron Man in 2008. 3. Popularity of Marvel comics, which're sold worldwide in massive numbers daily. 4. Huge domestic box office gross was expected. 5. Broader appeal especially from families reasons why Avatar made 2.749B ww 1. It was a movie, a world(Pandora) we've never seen before. 2. Repeat viewings 3. First massive scale 3D release worldwide. 4. As it was the first 3D live action film, it was an experience of the alien world Pandora. 5. Very positive WOM than any other film in history. 6. It was released in winter(December). So any movie get legs, especially a movie like Avatar with an extraordinary WOM. 7. First movie from Jim since TITANIC. Edited July 10, 2013 by dilusha117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Success of both were unexpected but, reasons why Avengers made 1.5B ww 1. It was the first superhero Team up of all favourite superheroes of MCU 2. The worldwide recognition of all those major superheroes thanks to the solo films of MCU started with Iron Man in 2008. 3. Popularity of Marvel comics, which're sold worldwide in massive numbers daily. 4. Huge domestic box office gross was expected. 5. Broader appeal especially from families reasons why Avatar made 2.749B ww 1. It was a movie, a world(Pandora) we've never seen before. 2. Repeat viewings 3. First massive scale 3D release worldwide. 4. As it was the first 3D live action film, it was an experience of Pandora 5. Very positive WOM than any other film on history. 6. It was released in winter(December). So any movie get legs, especially a movie like Avatar with an extraordinary WOM. 7. First movie from Jim since TITANIC. In hindsight, everything is easily explainable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 In hindsight, everything is easily explainable. Real phenomena can be explained AFTER their prowess, but strangely people never explain them BEFORE. A lot of people expected Avatar to be a failure, it was a very risky bet...Now it's just an obvious success for everyone. Pacific Rim can do the same I don't say it will but it's not impossible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SentryTrans Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 PR is coming now! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) some crazy forecasts. people think OS more than 300m for this? a non franchise? cmon.. so far this year, all the ones above 300m OS are franchise related. battleship OS is more reflective of non franchise. it was 217m OS Edited July 11, 2013 by Halba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Real phenomena can be explained AFTER their prowess, but strangely people never explain them BEFORE. A lot of people expected Avatar to be a failure, it was a very risky bet...Now it's just an obvious success for everyone. Pacific Rim can do the same I don't say it will but it's not impossible. except for very few of those reasons, most of those were easily predicted before the movies got released !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Real phenomena can be explained AFTER their prowess, but strangely people never explain them BEFORE. A lot of people expected Avatar to be a failure, it was a very risky bet...Now it's just an obvious success for everyone. Pacific Rim can do the same I don't say it will but it's not impossible. Avatar was a totally different movie than Pacific rim and there were lot of factors that affected Avatar unlike PR, even Jim Cameron was a factor! but is Guillermo Del Toro such a widely known Director at least??? And except for WOM /repeat viewings factor, all other factors aren't valid for PR!(you can't predict WOM and the no. of repeat viewings) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 some crazy forecasts. people think OS more than 300m for this? a non franchise? cmon.. so far this year, all the ones above 300m OS are franchise related. battleship OS is more reflective of non franchise. it was 217m OS So non-franchise can't make 300M, back of the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Success of both were unexpected but, reasons why Avengers made 1.5B ww 1. It was the first superhero Team up of all favourite superheroes of MCU 2. The worldwide recognition of all those major superheroes thanks to the solo films of MCU started with Iron Man in 2008. 3. Popularity of Marvel comics, which're sold worldwide in massive numbers daily. 4. Huge domestic box office gross was expected. 5. Broader appeal especially from families reasons why Avatar made 2.749B ww 1. It was a movie, a world(Pandora) we've never seen before. 2. Repeat viewings 3. First massive scale 3D release worldwide. 4. As it was the first 3D live action film, it was an experience of the alien world Pandora. 5. Very positive WOM than any other film in history. 6. It was released in winter(December). So any movie get legs, especially a movie like Avatar with an extraordinary WOM. 7. First movie from Jim since TITANIC. Sorry to say but over half of these are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) some crazy forecasts. people think OS more than 300m for this? a non franchise? cmon.. so far this year, all the ones above 300m OS are franchise related. battleship OS is more reflective of non franchise. it was 217m OS So far this year we have had 4 films pass 300M OS, and one of them isn't part of a franchise (the Croods). We also have another non-franchise that is on its way to passing 300M (World War Z). Edited July 11, 2013 by Tower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 So far this year we have had 4 films pass 300M OS, and one of them isn't part of a franchise (the Croods). We also have another non-franchise that is on its way to passing 300M (World War Z). the croods is an animated film appealing to kids. thats GA WWZ has brad pitt and basedo n a book. also zombies are a franchise in itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 the croods is an animated film appealing to kids. thats GA WWZ has brad pitt and basedo n a book. also zombies are a franchise in itself. And PR has unbelievable battle appealing for TF's audiences Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 the croods is an animated film appealing to kids. thats GA WWZ has brad pitt and basedo n a book. also zombies are a franchise in itself. And if Pacific Rim makes 300M you could come up with a similar sentence, just like you could with the 4 films that did the same in 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Sorry to say but over half of these are wrong. Seriously???????? So could you please explain your reasons for the success of Those 2 movies?? Edited July 11, 2013 by dilusha117 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilusha Bandara Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 And if Pacific Rim makes 300M you could come up with a similar sentence, just like you could with the 4 films that did the same in 2012. 320M overseas max. for PR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 in 2013, u can STiD which is a sci fi sequel which got only $220m OS so i can't see PR exceeding that number by a lot. You realize that the Star Trek franchise is a notoriously terrible overseas performer, right? It's not a good example at all for sci-fi OS potential. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) Didn't work Edited July 11, 2013 by DeeCee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halba Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 (edited) You realize that the Star Trek franchise is a notoriously terrible overseas performer, right? It's not a good example at all for sci-fi OS potential. oblivion is another original sci fi. how did that go OS dredd original sci fi , no GA potential..OS? looper...sci fi..OS? battleship...OS? 217m battle LA - 128M super 8 130m. apart from avatar, none have broken out. this wont be the first. something around battleshits OS seems the natural limit... Edited July 11, 2013 by Halba Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 oblivion is another original sci fi. how did that go OS dredd original sci fi , no GA potential..OS? looper...sci fi..OS? battleship...OS? 217m battle LA - 128M super 8 130m. apart from avatar, none have broken out. this wont be the first. something around battleshits OS seems the natural limit... Oblivion, Super 8, Battle LA and Looper all did well, Pacific Rim has a bigger budget than any of those so it needs to make more. I also see you left out Inception from your list. Battleship numbers are only bad if you have a super high budget, if you don't and get 200M+ then you are doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
