Caladbolg Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 ASM dropped 70 %............If this isn't a big decrease, I don't know what a big decrease is.1 movie out of all the rest. TASM would be affected most by TDKR opening. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) You underestimate the amount of whining, and begging kids can do. And the idea that there really are kids that can handle it. Ultimately the Nolan movies really aren't that dark because they have happy or at least uplifting endings, which is what really matters. I mean, a movie could be all bright unicorns and rainbows for 90% of its runtime, but if it kills off every likable character at the end, it all of a sudden becomes dark. Edited July 23, 2012 by tribefan695 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dementeleus Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think most of the items on that SlashFilm list are fairly absurd, especially in terms of the other films. Don't recall seeing bitter geek outrage charts in '05 or '08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There's no doubt the film has plenty of issues, a good chunk of which I spotted. Some are a bit nitpicky though. And by no means are TDK and BB without problems of a similar nature too.There are plenty in this movie that bothered me though that really brought me out of the zone. The two biggest ones for me were: How did Bruce get back to Gotham, how did he find Selina, why would he waste his time spraying a building with gasoline so that he could lite the batsymbol and how do they find out about Batman's true identity? Right or wrong, when you start questioning things like this, i just takes you out of the "zone". 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm56 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Some I agree with, some I don't. I made a post about the nature of criticising plot holes in the review thread - basically, if you're emotionally engaged most of them are trivial. If you're not then it's easy to see why they could be a problem.Some good points in that article. Especially: The part about the poor staging during the Alfred and Bruce conversation at the beginning of the film. Wayne Manor was such a lush backdrop in the previous films but they choose to stage this scene in a drab stairwell that looks like it belongs in a BBC Jane Austen production? Edited July 23, 2012 by Adm56 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punishment Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Ice Age: Continental Drift $20,416,978 -56%Moonrise Kingdom $1,831,471 -51%To Rome with Love $1,400,043 -43%Beasts of the Southern Wild $763,443 -3%Marvel's The Avengers $620,411 -56%The Best Exotic Marigold Hotel $416,791 -36%Prometheus $310,395 -68%Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter $184,370 -76%I'll try to keep these on the current page, as this thread is going to go fast Edited July 23, 2012 by Punishment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There are plenty in this movie that bothered me though that really brought me out of the zone. The two biggest ones for me were: How did Bruce get back to Gotham, how did he find Selina, why would he waste his time spraying a building with gasoline so that he could lite the batsymbol and how do they find out about Batman's true identity? Right or wrong, when you start questioning things like this, i just takes you out of the "zone". I am guessing it was cut it bugged me too. Did it bug you in Avengers how all the Avengers found each other in NYC and they are got to NYC quickly when they where spread far out from each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There are plenty in this movie that bothered me though that really brought me out of the zone. The two biggest ones for me were: How did Bruce get back to Gotham, how did he find Selina, why would he waste his time spraying a building with gasoline so that he could lite the batsymbol and how do they find out about Batman's true identity? Right or wrong, when you start questioning things like this, i just takes you out of the "zone". My audience loved the batsymbol part, cheered, and clapped. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think most of the items on that SlashFilm list are fairly absurd, especially in terms of the other films. Don't recall seeing bitter geek outrage charts in '05 or '08.Yes, such as the fact that Bruce ultimately killed a good chunk of people in the League of Shadows fortress, or the Microwave emitter not vaporizing the water in your body, etc. Or in the Dark Knight, how does Joker plant the charges all over these places such as Gotham General? The 5 dead, 2 cops thing is never explained.Plenty of issues in all films. Certainly Rises is the least 'tight' out of the three. But people conveniently ignore how many issues his other films have. What matters is the enjoyment of the experience in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 That Moonrise figure is just horrible, pretty much proves the shootings had a considerable effect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I think most of the items on that SlashFilm list are fairly absurd, especially in terms of the other films. Don't recall seeing bitter geek outrage charts in '05 or '08.That's your opinion. But I happen to agree with about 10 of them and I mentioned them to Noctis. There are plenty of us who feel this way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orestes Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 I am guessing it was cut it bugged me too. Did it bug you in Avengers how all the Avengers found each other in NYC and they are got to NYC quickly when they where spread far out from each other. Not really. The portal was a great big beacon saying "Go Here!" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adm56 Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 And the idea that there really are kids that can handle it. Ultimately the Nolan movies really aren't that dark because they have happy or at least uplifting endings, which is what really matters As far as their whining goes...are you their parent or their friend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 (edited) Some good points in that article. Especially: The part about the poor staging during the Alfred and Bruce conversation at the beginning of the film. Wayne Manor was such a lush backdrop in the previous films but they choose to stage this scene in a drab stairwell that looks like it belongs in a BBC Jane Austen production? Can't agree, I liked the staging there. Alfred was covered in daylight while Bruce was deliberately shrouded in darkness. And actually became darker as the tension rose. Edited July 23, 2012 by Hatebox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 That Moonrise figure is just horrible, pretty much proves the shootings had a considerable effect.You are wrong.It was the snow storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Yes, such as the fact that Bruce ultimately killed a good chunk of people in the League of Shadows fortress, or the Microwave emitter not vaporizing the water in your body, etc. Or in the Dark Knight, how does Joker plant the charges all over these places such as Gotham General? The 5 dead, 2 cops thing is never explained. Plenty of issues in all films. Certainly Rises is the least 'tight' out of the three. But people conveniently ignore how many issues his other films have. What matters is the enjoyment of the experience in the end. Not sure if this is Batman Begins or TDKR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 My audience loved the batsymbol part, cheered, and clapped. And that's why it was put in the film, because it would illicit a reaction like that. But after you think about it for a while, it's beyond absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 Can't agree, I liked the staging there. Alfred was covered in daylight while Bruce was deliberately shrouded in darkness.Yep, it was great. Needed to be drab. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cremino Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 1 movie out of all the rest. TASM would be affected most by TDKR opening.Not that much and IA 4 dropped over 50 % which is awful for a kids movie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted July 23, 2012 Share Posted July 23, 2012 There are plenty in this movie that bothered me though that really brought me out of the zone. The two biggest ones for me were: How did Bruce get back to Gotham, how did he find Selina, why would he waste his time spraying a building with gasoline so that he could lite the batsymbol and how do they find out about Batman's true identity? Right or wrong, when you start questioning things like this, i just takes you out of the "zone". And these are all issues...but really the first one is the only one of actual plot significance. Bruce was a wanderer for 7 years in Begins, so it isn't implausible for someone like him to get back to the States without identification/money. Sneaking into Gotham is another story, though people were able to make it in from the inside, such as the Special Forces group bringing in supplies. The time thing with the gasoline is admittedly silly just imagining what in God's name is he doing....but of course, it's done for the effect of a cool shot. Nolan is not above that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
