Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted July 28, 2012 Founder / Operator Share Posted July 28, 2012 And well on its way to beating every non-Joker Batman movie by a considerable margin in admissions. Considering none of those other films had a mass shooting during their opening night, I'd say this is a pretty good result. Other people got their expectations way out of whack due to TDK's success, but the history of the franchise is there to be studied. Folks ignored it. Too bad for you guys. Doesn't make this a bad result when put in the correct perspective. Respectfully, that's a very presumptive post. Folks ignored what? The off-chance of a nationally-affecting tragedy occurring on opening day of the film ... at a movie theater ... during the film in question itself? You're right, this isn't a bad result in the correct perspective. But its also important not to misrepresent the real perspective: that no single person in the world saw this set of circumstances happening. Objectively speaking, that renders anyone's and everyone's "expectations" completely void. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Man, Shawn is a smart fellow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JarJarBinks Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Ted -- $2.2 mAmazing Spider-Man -- $1.9 mBrave -- $1.24 m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Some are still staying away because of the shooting. About 20-25%, to be exact. We have "exact figures" on the speculation now? Yup. Top-10 should account for less than 120M. Very poor. The Avengers 2nd weekend, the top 10 made 159m. That of course includes the 103 TA made. Is every number now going to be attributed to the shootings without any proof? It's amazing how many people outside of the United States are so out of touch with how much the shooting is negatively impacting TDKR and the box office overall. EVERY movie is down, EVERY movie is being hurt, drops last weekend (and maybe this) were terrible, The Watch is bombing horribly (more so than a normal bombing), this is not simply a case of "well maybe people just don't like TDKR that much and it's not getting good wom", those comments are based on personal feelings about the movie and being out of touch about the shootings and not understanding the impact it's having. (yesterday was also partly cause of olympics opening ceremony...still completely unrelated to bad wom, and impacted all movies) The drop last weekend was not as bad as the drops the weekend The Avengers opened. There was nothing unusual about it. When the movies opening after The Avengers "underperformed"....it was acknowledged by most that it was because they just weren't that good/the public wasn't excited. If not for The Avengers, May would have been a horrible month. BO has been "boring" ever since and that's not changing now either. We've got another movie coming up next week....it's not going to do that well and some are going to claim it is because of the shootings when it is much more likely because it's a remake of one of Arnold's best-loved films. If there are any fanboys for Total Recall (not likely) they'll be making the same claims when it fails to light the BO world on fire. TDKR has a long list of reasons why it should make less than TDK and that's happening. Those who ignored those reasons before TDKR was released will continue to ignore them apparently. Now even a bad drop is because of the shootings too? Some films are just front-loaded. Are we going to suggest that people got more scared this weekend than last weekend? This is sounding like rationalization to continue a fantasy that TDKR should have duplicated the very unique circumstances of TDK. Normal drops during the week were dismissed as well. I'm guessing if TDKR ever does have a good/excellent drop....it will be because "people are finally going back to the movies". There is hysteria over this...but it is with the media. And a certain fanbase is certainly adding to the drama queen aspect of it all. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Step Up: 4.85TW: 4.5 Man.That TW number is definitely puke-inducing,Which one of the two do you see getting more for the weekend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Respectfully, that's a very presumptive post. Folks ignored what? The off-chance of a nationally-affecting tragedy occurring on opening day of the film ... at a movie theater ... during the film in question itself? You're right, this isn't a bad result in the correct perspective. But its also important not to misrepresent the real perspective: that no single person in the world saw this set of circumstances happening. Objectively speaking, that renders anyone's and everyone's "expectations" completely void. No it doesn't render expectations void. The film clearly wasn't going to hit the ridiculous 550-600 (and higher) numbers that people were predicting, and I seriously doubt it would have reached 500. Its midnight wasn't affected at all. It needed around $35-40m at midnight to have a shot at those crazy high totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 That TW number is definitely puke-inducing,Which one of the two do you see getting more for the weekend?Probably TW since it is not a sequel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 That TW number is definitely puke-inducing, In what way? Were you rooting for the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted July 28, 2012 Founder / Operator Share Posted July 28, 2012 Relatively speaking, there's nothing bad about TDKR's number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Seng Wah Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Relatively speaking, there's nothing bad about TDKR's number.Agree =) Even if it does not make as much as TDK made. It's still good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 In what way? Were you rooting for the film?Nope. I don't care about the film at all..... just saying that it came well below what people were expecting.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted July 28, 2012 Founder / Operator Share Posted July 28, 2012 (edited) No it doesn't render expectations void. The film clearly wasn't going to hit the ridiculous 550-600 (and higher) numbers that people were predicting, and I seriously doubt it would have reached 500. Its midnight wasn't affected at all. It needed around $35-40m at midnight to have a shot at those crazy high totals.Again, presumptive. Midnights do not dictate where a film goes ultimately -- if they did, Potter would have hit $400m. You know that as well as I do.It might be your opinion that it wasn't going to hit 500, but there's nothing "clear" about it. There's no way to quantify the impact on the box office, but we do know with general certainty that it was affected because every other film took a hit as well. Edited July 28, 2012 by ShawnMR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Probably TW since it is not a sequel.Ok.... so IA4 may actually get #2! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Ted -- $2.2 mAmazing Spider-Man -- $1.9 mBrave -- $1.24 mWell, Brave will finally have a drop in the 30%+. It will finish in the 235-240M range. Not a bad result after the Cars 2 debacle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 Ok.... so IA4 may actually get #2!Yep, I'm screwed in the game this week. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yep, I'm screwed in the game this week. lolNot really..... nobody had TW at #3 I think....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 You know the box office is in the toilet when it's July and the #2 movie of the weekend is making 12 million. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayhem2x3 Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 So top 10 in TDKR's second weekend: 120MTop 10 in TA's second weekend was: 160M?And TA grossed 40M more than TDKR in its second weekend?Just so I get the math straight...And Brave 1 day away from Number 1 animated for the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 28, 2012 Author Share Posted July 28, 2012 I don't really think anyone is surprised that Brave is the number one animated film of the year, it would be more surprising if it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 All these Avengers fanboys...The only thing people remember about Avengers is it's gross. I already forgot about the plot to the movie.TDKR was clearly affected by the incident last Friday. Debate it all you guys want but there's no other reason it's underperforming its expectations. The entire box office has been hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
