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2 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

 

Yeah, Toy Story 3 bombed so hard with an 11-year delay.

 

Apples to Oranges comparison.

 

Toy Story is a much higher regarded series with a decade of pent up demand that translated into it's box office haul. TS also debuted when 3d animation was in it's infancy. There was barely any competition in that regard.

 

HTTYD doesn't even have half of that demand. It's likability is up there with TS, but that didn't stop HTTYD2 from declining domestically. As I mentioned above, 3d animation is so commonplace, it's not special anymore. What worked for TS3 isn't going to work with HTTYD3. Sequels need to release more often these days for a series to stay relevant.  

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2 hours ago, Noodlebug said:

What's with the long delays between these films? The three years between each Shrek was pushing it, but four ways is way too long for audiences to wait.

OK, you clearly have no idea what it takes to make an animated feature.

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On 2016. 5. 31. at 6:39 AM, Noodlebug said:

How so? Animated sequels to other franchises have been pumped out in half the time.

 

not really, if you come to think of it. (KFP also took 3-5 year gaps, Madagascar and Ice Age 3 to 4 years, Cars: 5-6 years, MU: 12 yrs, FN: 13 yrs..) even the Despicable Me sequel took 3 years. think Penguins and Minions is the only rushed one in a recent memory taking 2 years each from their predecessors and that took very small ambition. 

 

The current biggest players Disney and Pixar slate their film very carefully and have a very thoroughly thought-out release schedules till 3-4 years ahead so they can't just sneak in a sequel immediately every time their original movie gets huge, like Frozen, for example, when they tried to greenlit the Frozen sequel many of the talented Disney staff were already in charge of their own projects like BH6, Zootopia, Moana and Gigantic. Plus the process itself aside some scheduling conflicts would take at least a year or two when you want to meet that theatrical animated release standards even for the sequels that enables saving some time for creating characters and settings. Besides they still need to come up with the new settings and new characters anyway. 

 

Dreamworks, I don't know how they churned out 3 films a year, that would have resulted in some quality drops. But even with that tight scheduling they probably also had too many projects in their hands already, being a more franchise based studio before Pixar turned into one, while they also had to diversify their catalogue and produced TV series with their IPs as well. 

 

When you're Blue Sky or Illumination things would be a tad easier cause you are producing cheaper animations to meet lower expectations and you also have less scheduling conflicts to worry about with less projects/franchises in your rosters. But then again, you have somewhat of lesser employees talent-wise, and the number of employees itself is smaller too, less budget and resources which wouldn't shorten your production time dramatically despite all the perks you have as smaller studios. 

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On 2016-05-30 at 4:05 AM, Noodlebug said:

What's with the long delays between these films? The three years between each Shrek was pushing it, but four ways is way too long for audiences to wait.

 

It was supposed to come out in 2017 (originally this year even) but the disappointing box office of the second film and Dreamworks' overall financial troubles pushed their whole slate back.

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On 5/30/2016 at 9:16 PM, yjs said:

Dreamworks, I don't know how they churned out 3 films a year, that would have resulted in some quality drops. But even with that tight scheduling they probably also had too many projects in their hands already, being a more franchise based studio before Pixar turned into one, while they also had to diversify their catalogue and produced TV series with their IPs as well.

They turned out 3 movies a year because they basically had two animation studios at the same time. The PDI unit closed after the Penguins movie bombed.


As a side note, the Penguins of Madagascar movie and Minions both had short turnarounds because they were spinoffs, and could be written without thinking of the main series.

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