The Warner Bros. Thread | Will NOT merge with Paramount...capitalism is still terrible

[WittyUsername]

26 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

Betting on streaming is long term thinking, it's a growing segment and there's a demand for that.

Audiences aren't gonna ask for LESS choice moving forward, they'll want MORE options.

I don’t see any conceivable way that both options can coexist. 

[Fullbuster]

12 minutes ago, WittyUsername said:

I don’t see any conceivable way that both options can coexist. 

 

Well, they might coexist for some time and then at some point theaters wil mostly die....I mean, if it happens that way then it means consumers will have decided so with their wallet.

 

it's sad, of course, but did we cry when cars replaced horses as a way of transportation? When portable phones  and then smartphones replaced the old phones? That's how it is, things change, evolve but the old ways are meant to disappear if they aren't as good for consumers as the new ways.

Even in gaming: gaming retailers slowly died for many years because of Amazon + digital stores, and now physical consoles are threatened by streaming on the long run so consoles might disappear by 2030 and instead you'll have streaming platforms playing on most devices thanks to the power of Cloud.

 

The movie market isn't isolated: it's only part of a larger trend.

 

Edited December 5, 2020 by Fullbuster

[keysersoze123]

I wonder what Nolan thinks about this. He is a huge big screen proponent. He will probably take a break for couple of years and hopefully get back to making movies for big screen. Or this could push him to work with say Netflix for a smaller(riskier?) movie while hoping for post COVID movie world. May be he will no longer make movies for WB. 

[filmlover]

2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

I wonder what Nolan thinks about this. He is a huge big screen proponent. He will probably take a break for couple of years and hopefully get back to making movies for big screen. Or this could push him to work with say Netflix for a smaller(riskier?) movie while hoping for post COVID movie world. May be he will no longer make movies for WB. 

His movie going ahead with its release in the midst of the pandemic and bombing ended up more or less being the catalyst for the release fallout that has occurred since so he's probably preferring not to feel anything right now. Especially when the studio just took a page from his most famous movie by lighting a whole mountain of cash on fire.

[Ryan Reynolds]

I still don't understand this strategy , i may be different , but i subscribe to streaming services for original series, not movies. The wb movies are not exclusive and will be sold elsewhere. It seems more a move to force exhibitors into a new model.

[lab276]

4 hours ago, Fullbuster said:

 

Well, they might coexist for some time and then at some point theaters wil mostly die....I mean, if it happens that way then it means consumers will have decided so with their wallet.

 

it's sad, of course, but did we cry when cars replaced horses as a way of transportation? When portable phones  and then smartphones replaced the old phones? That's how it is, things change, evolve but the old ways are meant to disappear if they aren't as good for consumers as the new ways.

Even in gaming: gaming retailers slowly died for many years because of Amazon + digital stores, and now physical consoles are threatened by streaming on the long run so consoles might disappear by 2030 and instead you'll have streaming platforms playing on most devices thanks to the power of Cloud.

 

The movie market isn't isolated: it's only part of a larger trend.

 

 

Just hope you never lose your internet access.

[Fullbuster]

1 hour ago, lab276 said:

 

Just hope you never lose your internet access.

 

I have a massive amount of physical games, I'll be fine xD

[lorddemaxus]

5 hours ago, Fullbuster said:

 

Well, they might coexist for some time and then at some point theaters wil mostly die....I mean, if it happens that way then it means consumers will have decided so with their wallet.

 

it's sad, of course, but did we cry when cars replaced horses as a way of transportation? When portable phones  and then smartphones replaced the old phones? That's how it is, things change, evolve but the old ways are meant to disappear if they aren't as good for consumers as the new ways.

Even in gaming: gaming retailers slowly died for many years because of Amazon + digital stores, and now physical consoles are threatened by streaming on the long run so consoles might disappear by 2030 and instead you'll have streaming platforms playing on most devices thanks to the power of Cloud.

 

The movie market isn't isolated: it's only part of a larger trend.

 

Cinemas aren't an old way lol. No streaming service can even offer the same image quality of a decent cinema.

[Fullbuster]

1 minute ago, lorddemaxus said:

Cinemas aren't an old way lol. No streaming service can even offer the same image quality of a decent cinema.

 

Depends how you see it.

 

Theaters choose when a movie is shown, you have to choose what is given...streaming is really whenever you want.

Theaters also means excessively expensive food and you can't brong your own, streaming makes you eat what you want and without overspending.

Theaters can be very expensive for watching movies in family, streaming doesn't make you pay more.

...etc...

 

It's all about quality of life changes, the kind of comfort you don't want to give up on once you got it.

[lorddemaxus]

7 minutes ago, Fullbuster said:

 

Depends how you see it.

 

Theaters choose when a movie is shown, you have to choose what is given...streaming is really whenever you want.

Theaters also means excessively expensive food and you can't brong your own, streaming makes you eat what you want and without overspending.

Theaters can be very expensive for watching movies in family, streaming doesn't make you pay more.

...etc...

 

It's all about quality of life changes, the kind of comfort you don't want to give up on once you got it.

And if you don't like cinemas, you can wait to watch at home. Theaters might be more expensive but considering that the screens are much bigger, the image and audio quality is much, much better, and it's a great form of social gathering, the cost is usually worth it. The only thing streaming offers is convenience, but that doesn't make cinemas horses and streaming cars. Cars are better than horses regardless of how you see it.

 

And your point is based on the assumption that all these streaming services will be successful enough to replace cinemas. They won't. 

Edited December 5, 2020 by lorddemaxus

[TMP]

7 hours ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

I still don't understand this strategy , i may be different , but i subscribe to streaming services for original series, not movies. The wb movies are not exclusive and will be sold elsewhere. It seems more a move to force exhibitors into a new model.

The problem is HBO Max has no big shows in development right now. A lot of the DC shows will be Berlanti-produced, so will be a niche audience, and I'd be surprised if PeaceMaker or Justice League Dark made waves.

[filmlover]

1 minute ago, TMP said:

The problem is HBO Max has no big shows in development right now. A lot of the DC shows will be Berlanti-produced, so will be a niche audience, and I'd be surprised if PeaceMaker or Justice League Dark made waves.

Game of Thrones signing off has left a huge hole in HBO in general at the moment (most of their buzzy shows in the pipeline are miniseries). Westworld was supposed to take its place but a quick drop-off in quality quelled that notion. Will probably be another couple of years until they find their next big phenomenon.

[charlie Jatinder]

8 hours ago, filmlover said:

His movie going ahead with its release in the midst of the pandemic and bombing ended up more or less being the catalyst for the release fallout that has occurred since so he's probably preferring not to feel anything right now. Especially when the studio just took a page from his most famous movie by lighting a whole mountain of cash on fire.

TENET is not a Flop people make of it. WB earned same what they did internationally minus Korea & China from Interstellar. Domestic is Disaster no doubt.

[charlie Jatinder]

11 hours ago, Fullbuster said:

 

it's sad, of course, but did we cry when cars replaced horses as a way of transportation

I am sure horse wagon manufacturers would have cried.

 

This is Box Office Theory forum, we are deemed to cry on death of box office.

[lorddemaxus]

1 hour ago, TMP said:

The problem is HBO Max has no big shows in development right now. A lot of the DC shows will be Berlanti-produced, so will be a niche audience, and I'd be surprised if PeaceMaker or Justice League Dark made waves.

Tokyo Vice biggest show of the year.

[TMP]

1 hour ago, filmlover said:

Will probably be another couple of years until they find their next big phenomenon

Meh, all they needed to do was make an expensive show based on an IP like Harry Potter or DC. Not sure why Green Lantern is going the Berlanti route, when they could have so easily positioned it as their Mandalorian.

8 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Tokyo Vice biggest show of the year.

Ansolo is still attached :L

[filmlover]

5 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said:

Tokyo Vice biggest show of the year.

Ansolo to the rescue in 2021 between that and West Side Story.

 

Speaking of the latter, it's sorta surprising WB hasn't already moved up the release date for In the Heights by a few months to avoid awards season competition with it. The leggy summer run they were hoping for with that original one year delay has now been thrown out the window, and the Tony Awards tie-in they were also clearly aiming for won't be happening either since Broadway isn't coming back until June at the earliest.

[cax16]

It’s weird you guys keeping talking about Berlanti as if he hasn’t made WB hundreds of millions already from the CW shows, add in the fact that he’s also produced doom patrol which is phenomenal. This selective bullshit is so annoying. 
 

Green lantern is only being produced by his company and has a massive budget, it’s nothing like the CW shows. You work with what you’re given and I think he’s done a pretty great job when you factor that all in. 

 

 

Edited December 5, 2020 by cax16

[lorddemaxus]

1 hour ago, TMP said:

Ansolo is still attached :L

Mann power though.

 

Also, Mando is a Berlanti show with a larger budget.

[filmlover]

10 minutes ago, cax16 said:

It’s weird you guys keeping talking about Berlanti as if he hasn’t made WB hundreds of millions already from the CW shows, add in the fact that he’s also produced doom patrol which is phenomenal. This selective bullshit is so annoying. 
 

Green lantern is only being produced by his company and has a massive budget, it’s nothing like the CW shows. You work with what you’re given and I think he’s done a pretty great job when you factor that all in. 

 

 

Love, Simon alone is enough to give Berlanti a lifetime pass for everything else.

 

His CW shows are better than what's usually on the network, though.

Edited December 5, 2020 by filmlover