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On 1/10/2021 at 1:38 AM, Macleod said:

It's not just about what he can "demand" -- though agents can help with that -- it's about contract stipulations and indeed "precedent" -- what Warners is doing here vs. the rest of the industry right now.  

 

If there is not outright language specially addressing long term theater shutdowns or pandemics there will be force majeure and act of god language.  So at best its a long drawn out court battle to collect but most likely collect little to nothing.  The entire industry is dumping product to streaming services.  Disney moved its entire lineup to streaming except Marvel and Fox and Paramount has dumped almost everything to streaming. 

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3 hours ago, jimisawesome said:

 

If there is not outright language specially addressing long term theater shutdowns or pandemics there will be force majeure and act of god language.  So at best its a long drawn out court battle to collect but most likely collect little to nothing.  The entire industry is dumping product to streaming services.  Disney moved its entire lineup to streaming except Marvel and Fox and Paramount has dumped almost everything to streaming. 

Regardless, it now appears that Warner Bros. is re-negotiating contracts and terms with all the top talent in their 2021 movies... so that tells us that they are acquiescing to industry demands.  

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7 hours ago, Macleod said:

Regardless, it now appears that Warner Bros. is re-negotiating contracts and terms with all the top talent in their 2021 movies... so that tells us that they are acquiescing to industry demands.  

Or you know they are just following though with what they said they would do when they made this announcement in the first place.  WB said at that time they would make right but all the talent had their feelings hurt because WB did not call them first.

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COVID herd immunity will not happen in 2021, says WHO

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World Health Organization (WHO) chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan said Monday that herd immunity to the coronavirus would not be achieved in 2021, despite the growing availability of vaccines. 

 

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"We are not going to achieve any levels of population immunity or herd immunity in 2021," Swaminathan told a briefing, while emphasizing that measures such as physical distancing, handwashing and wearing masks continue to be necessary in containing COVID-19's spread for the rest of the year

 

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"We won't get back to normal quickly," Dale Fisher, chairman of the WHO's Outbreak Alert and Response Network, told a conference hosted by the Reuters news agency.

 

"We know we need to get to herd immunity and we need that in a majority of countries, so we are not going to see that in 2021," Fisher said.

 

https://www.dw.com/en/covid-herd-immunity-will-not-happen-in-2021-says-who/a-56197701

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It definitely doesn't look like things will go back to normal for the exhibition business this year, WB made the right decision for the company while also providing theater owners big movies to play and make some much needed cash to stay afloat. Disney will likely follow WB with this strategy, while the other studios will either delay movies even further (like Sony already started doing, with Morbius) or simply sell some of their big movies to a streaming service. Releasing those big movies in cinemas and on HBO Max and Disney+ is the best thing to do right now in my opinion, for both the studios and theater owners.

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15 hours ago, jimisawesome said:

Or you know they are just following though with what they said they would do when they made this announcement in the first place.  WB said at that time they would make right but all the talent had their feelings hurt because WB did not call them first.

Do you think they would have done this if not for the outcry from filmmakers, talent?  I don't think so.  😂

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7 hours ago, Macleod said:

Do you think they would have done this if not for the outcry from filmmakers, talent?  I don't think so.  😂

Yes, seeing how they said they would make it right when they made the announcement.  What reason is there to believe they wouldn't have kept their word?  At this point with all the crying from Villeneuve, Nolan, Legendary, Jenkins and the rest they should just open their films in February without the HBO Max and take the L and reset the market for the post theater world.  

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I imagine they're exploring their options/keeping them open. The Fantastic Beasts movies are on thin ice and perhaps they want to start putting their eggs in more than one basket. Perhaps there are some rumblings of letting other creators besides JK Rowling make content in that world?

 

Although the article did say that this guy Tom will be working with Rowling and her reps, so even though he's stated to be an "overseer" how much power does he really have? Just seems like he's an intermediary at best and doesn't have much executive power, I could be wrong.

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I assume Rowling still ultimately has final say in the direction taken with the Harry Potter films, so I don’t see how this makes a difference. Unless Rowling decides to do what George Lucas did and sell the franchise wholesale, it doesn’t seem like WB will have a lot of freedom in terms of what they can do with the franchise. 

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33 minutes ago, Eric Gardner said:

 

Yeah ok. - GIF on Imgur

 

This feud will last about as long as Soderbergh's "retirement" did if not less. He'll be back with them after making his next movie elsewhere (hopefully his next movie will also see him returning to making something like Memento or The Prestige again).

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This feels unreasonable, the WB move didn't affect any film of his. Also, didn't they get his sister-in-law's film out of the advertisements, suggesting it will not be part of the HBO Max plan? It's not like the other big studios aren't also sending films to their streaming services, or selling them to Netflix, Amazon and Hulu.

 

I'm sure WB is willing to commit to a theatrical-only release for Nolan's projects. 

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