AniNate Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Perhaps a much better one would be "Given long enough, a monkey could write Shakespeare". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 I see this doing less than Rio 2. $475m WW $175m DOM $300m OS. Snoopy and Peanuts don't really pop OS. That could be accurate...but it looks like you are saying OS is the bigger audience from your numbers. Also I couldn't help thinking of this blurb at Forbes: Schulz's most famous creation, The Peanuts, is getting a makeover with a 3-D movie hitting theaters next November. The gang already has a huge following overseas. http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mfl45elikj/charles-schulz-6/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 Overseas,Peanuts has a following just as big if not bigger then the big time American Comic Book heros. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grim22 Posted November 18, 2014 Share Posted November 18, 2014 That could be accurate...but it looks like you are saying OS is the bigger audience from your numbers. Also I couldn't help thinking of this blurb at Forbes: Schulz's most famous creation, The Peanuts, is getting a makeover with a 3-D movie hitting theaters next November. The gang already has a huge following overseas. http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mfl45elikj/charles-schulz-6/ Peanuts isn't a huge franchise in Asia, at least in the Indian subcontinent. Europe may be a bigger market for it. This may be a reverse Tintin, where the Domestic take may be equal to the OS take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I believe it huge in Japan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Atreides Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 My god this trailer! This actually put a tear in my eye, something a trailer very rarely has done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 This trailer made me smile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I believe it huge in Japan. It is. Overall though on the domestic front its to early to tell. It could pull 150m or it could pull 250m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) I'm sure Snoopy and Charlie Brown is known OS especially in Europe but probably not to the extent as America. I think it'll do well OS but it won't be as big as Tintin or the Smurfs. Oz had a similar issue in that The Wizard of Oz is a cultural icon in America but less so in other countries. I'd probably if they ever did Calvin and Hobbes as a film, it would struggle OS but do well in America. Edited November 19, 2014 by Jonwo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 For the sake of argument, yeah, a C&H movie would absolutely bomb overseas. It's the kind of strip Richard Linklater would do if he were a cartoonist. FoxTrot might be interesting, though that would work a lot better as a TV series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I'm sure Snoopy and Charlie Brown is known OS especially in Europe but probably not to the extent as America. I think it'll do well OS but it won't be as big as Tintin or the Smurfs. Oz had a similar issue in that The Wizard of Oz is a cultural icon in America but less so in other countries. I'd probably if they ever did Calvin and Hobbes as a film, it would struggle OS but do well in America. I doubt most people under the age of 20 know these characters in Europe. Peanuts never got the constant repeats and remakes many 60s era cartoons received in a lot of Europe. In the UK, Peanuts have been pretty much absent except for references in American shows and movies. The last time I remember the characters doing something was for some McDonalds toys over a decade ago. A good measure of popularity would also be merchandise. Toys R Us USA have 71 Snoopy toys, Toys R Us UK have 0. In a statement about the new Peanuts show (being produced in France), a spokesperson for Peanuts even said "Peanuts is well-known in France to a slightly older age group". 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Peanuts is massive. It's one of the top merchandising brands. That doesn't necessarily mean the box office will be big though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Peanuts is massive. It's one of the top merchandising brands. That doesn't necessarily mean the box office will be big though. But it will 200m+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 But it will 200m+ Maybe. It definitely has the brand awareness to do it. However, The Good Dinosaur could cut its legs off completely. It might need to have a big OW to get there. But, it has massive brand awareness, so that's possible. I just don't think it's a guarantee either way. It should pass $100M easily though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) Snoopy is huge in Japan. Wouldn't be surprised if that ended up being its biggest OS market (provided it gets a real release there, something many Fox animated features don't receive...) Edited November 19, 2014 by TServo2049 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Maybe. It definitely has the brand awareness to do it. However, The Good Dinosaur could cut its legs off completely. It might need to have a big OW to get there. But, it has massive brand awareness, so that's possible. I just don't think it's a guarantee either way. It should pass $100M easily though. Or it could hurt the Good Dinosaur. If this movie is a Christmas movie I expect great legs from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalo Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 (edited) that trailer made me all warm and fuzzy inside. I think this will connect well with audiences, I don't think $200m is out of the question for this. and right in time for my birthday! Edited November 19, 2014 by KaloVisor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I it!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BK007 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 If this crosses $200m, Dreamworks have a very real prospect of combusting. The other studios all produce one film a year that makes $200m and they produce multiple that can't. Doesn't look good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatree Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 I haven't heard of Peanuts but I will take the word of the people in this that it's well known in America. However, what worked with previous generations of kids is not by default going to connect to the current generation, which will be the primary audience for this. An animated film can't rely solely on old fans. And with the dull CGI style, the lack of action, and a generally younger feel, its chances of connecting to kids today are not amazingly high. Gonna be gargantuan, 250m+ stateside, 750m WW Lol! I see this doing less than Rio 2. $475m WW $175m DOM $300m OS. Snoopy and Peanuts don't really pop OS. I agree, worldwide it will be below Rio 2. I'm not sure it will do $300m overseas though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
