China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

[Xiaoshu]

How is Ne Zha OW? still 65-70M?

[ymblcza]

12 hours ago, Xiaoshu said:

How is Ne Zha OW? still 65-70M?

85m including previews

[Gavin Feng]

The Bravest got 9.4/10 on Taopiaopiao.

[Gavin Feng]

The Bravest got 9.6/10 on Maoyan.

 

I don’t think any problem with the biggest winner of this summer.

[POTUS 2020]

On 7/26/2019 at 12:25 AM, a2k said:

TLK doing $115-125 is a bummer. Was thinking 2x that a couple of months back and $150-175 after the ow. Not coming close to TJB's $150 in such a growing market is disappointing.

Market hasnt grown much. 

Up 33% from 2015 to 2018, 45b to 60b.

6% or 3.6b of that is the fee they count now.

This year is on track to be down 5b for a 55b total, 51.7b w/o fees. 

CNY releases were up 5.5b in both 2017 and 2018 vs 2015

The market is near flat outside of CNY and down when you look at the top 3 summer grossers. Like WW2 and EG taking billions more than the top 2015 grossers. 

As i explained in the China vs Dom thread, there is a limited amount of annual disposable imcome relative to GDP. 

When a few movies like EG do better than expected and charge more per ticket, its going to take a toll on other movies. 

I would say the market is down from 2015 (sans CNY and Top 3 summer hits), and after many people paid 50 to 200% more for 1 EG ticket, it is affecting movies for weeks after. 

XR is also 5% worse.

TLK is close to in line with TJB with all things considered imo.

[charlie Jatinder]

That make CBMs run even more impressive. There's an addition 1-3B that Indian films are doing now compared to almost nothing in 2015.

Edited July 27, 2019 by Charlie Jatinder

[Legion Again]

1 hour ago, POTUS 2020 said:

Market hasnt grown much. 

Up 33% from 2015 to 2018, 45b to 60b.

6% or 3.6b of that is the fee they count now.

This year is on track to be down 5b for a 55b total, 51.7b w/o fees. 

CNY releases were up 5.5b in both 2017 and 2018 vs 2015

The market is near flat outside of CNY and down when you look at the top 3 summer grossers. Like WW2 and EG taking billions more than the top 2015 grossers. 

As i explained in the China vs Dom thread, there is a limited amount of annual disposable imcome relative to GDP. 

When a few movies like EG do better than expected and charge more per ticket, its going to take a toll on other movies. 

I would say the market is down from 2015 (sans CNY and Top 3 summer hits), and after many people paid 50 to 200% more for 1 EG ticket, it is affecting movies for weeks after. 

XR is also 5% worse.

TLK is close to in line with TJB with all things considered imo.

Very informative breakdown, thanks. Still the TJB 150 is no fees and TLK 120 will be with fees, so might as well look at it as 45 vs 55 rather than 45 vs 51.7, right?   

 

Is growth expected to be slow for the foreseeable future, or rebound to a faster rate soon?

[efialtes76]

On 7/25/2019 at 3:52 PM, Gavin Feng said:

Ne Zha is looking to make $65-70M on 3-day opening. If so, $200M+ lifetime can be expected

Sunday presales at 41.5 

More than Friday and Saturday. 

[POTUS 2020]

4 hours ago, Thanos Legion said:

Very informative breakdown, thanks. Still the TJB 150 is no fees and TLK 120 will be with fees, so might as well look at it as 45 vs 55 rather than 45 vs 51.7, right? 

 

 True. But in dollars this year is 5 to 10% weaker than 2015-16

 

Is growth expected to be slow for the foreseeable future, or rebound to a faster rate soon?

I think it stalls here. Up and down years with a slight upward trend like Domestic since 2010.

It depends on GDP at this point. BO to GDP ratio is at the upper end now

Edited July 27, 2019 by POTUS 2020

[Legion Again]

12 minutes ago, POTUS 2020 said:

I think it stalls here. Up and down years with a slight upward trend like Domestic since 2010.

It depends on GDP at this point. BO to GDP ratio is at the upper end now

Well it was bound to happen eventually, just hadn’t realized we were already there outside CNY. Not great news for my Phase 4 club, but c’est la vie.

[cdsacken]

Will Ne Zha get English subtitles ? I want to see it eventually

[cannastop]

1 hour ago, cdsacken said:

Will Ne Zha get English subtitles ? I want to see it eventually

Uh, well?

 

The Monkey King: Hero is Back is available as a dub? So I guess this will eventually get a release of some sort.

[cdsacken]

17 minutes ago, cannastop said:

Uh, well?

 

The Monkey King: Hero is Back is available as a dub? So I guess this will eventually get a release of some sort.

Cool thanks. Will be fun to watch it. 

[Xiaoshu]

7 p.m, Ne Zha's Sun exceeds Sat number.

[efialtes76]

225M at 7pm for Ne Zha. 

[efialtes76]

$100M+ OW(with previews) 

[john2000]

3 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

$100M+ OW(with previews) 

Wow

[XXR vs XXR]

17 minutes ago, efialtes76 said:

$100M+ OW(with previews) 

 

Seems essentially locked that Zootopia is going down.

[Minnale101]

If this can help create and expand market for animated movies. Then awesome 

 

 

[Gavin Feng]

no way. hollywood animation keep flop in the future.