China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

[NamakFiskKa]

7 hours ago, Rorschach said:

Looks like someone from Forbes has been stalking the forums @Olive Skywalker @TigerPaw @Barnack

 

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/11/29/disneys-choice-for-mulan-lead-role-leaves-some-chinese-moviegoers-baffled/#6d48dfe82f92

 

 

Never change Rob Cain 

[NamakFiskKa]

2 hours ago, firedeep said:

The young generation of Chinese actors and actresses as a whole are just so bad in terms of professional skills. One of the reasons why Chinese films are so poor in quality.

They all look young to me.....

[Polaroids]

12 hours ago, UserHN said:

Sorry to all Kris Wu/Wu Yifan fans here but I think he's not that goodlooking and he can't act. Basing on looks, if Kris Wu is the other choice, then I'll just go for Lu Han.

General consensus from everyone is that Luhan looks like a girl. Most people would probably pick Kris Wu over him.

[Polaroids]

Liu Yifei is not a good actress but neither is Emma Watson and she played Belle. We all know acting chops take a backseat especially in a Disney film. The biggest challenge is to pass her off as a man but with good CGI it's possible. 

 

As for her male lead, that's a bit complicated. There's only a handful of famous Chinese actors who can speak English fluently. There's Kris Wu, Eddie Peng, Aarif Lee etc but out of all the three Kris Wu is the only one who's dipped his toe somewhat into Hollywood and if casting people were looking for someone who is Chinese, famous in China but lived overseas and therefore fluent in English then they would be looking at Kris (he's skinny so he would definitely have to work out and put on pounds for him to fit the role). Godfrey Gao is a name that people are throwing around too but he's not famous in China.

[fmpro]

Looks like 25-26 mill for CC and 9,5 mill for JL

 

Coco seems to have a healthy increase tomorrow and could explode on sat/sun

[Robert Cain]

3 hours ago, firedeep said:

One of ... mate. Great box office poisons are just too many.

 

Disney of course checked hundreds of candidates but what could they do when there is no such a fit to begin with? A young Chinese actress who performs well, speaks English well, gives that Mulan feel, and preferably has an established career.

translated: a best among the worst choice, all things considered

I agree though.

Good to see you here my friend!

Likewise, my friend! I'll be back in China next week, but not in Beijing, alas. I've always wanted to see the pandas, so I'm heading to Chengdu.

[UserHN]

14 minutes ago, Polaroids said:

Liu Yifei is not a good actress but neither is Emma Watson and she played Belle. We all know acting chops take a backseat especially in a Disney film. The biggest challenge is to pass her off as a man but with good CGI it's possible. 

 

As for her male lead, that's a bit complicated. There's only a handful of famous Chinese actors who can speak English fluently. There's Kris Wu, Eddie Peng, Aarif Lee etc but out of all the three Kris Wu is the only one who's dipped his toe somewhat into Hollywood and if casting people were looking for someone who is Chinese, famous in China but lived overseas and therefore fluent in English then they would be looking at Kris (he's skinny so he would definitely have to work out and put on pounds for him to fit the role). Godfrey Gao is a name that people are throwing around too but he's not famous in China.

Instead of getting already established actors in China who can speak English, maybe Disney ought to look at someone who is completely new but has the looks and required skills. A new gem in the making.

[Olive]

4 minutes ago, Robert Cain said:

Likewise, my friend! I'll be back in China next week, but not in Beijing, alas. I've always wanted to see the pandas, so I'm heading to Chengdu.

Chengdu is only 100 km away from my hometown, hope you will enjoy Sichuan food.

Edited November 30, 2017 by Olive Skywalker

[POTUS 2020]

18 hours ago, POTUS said:

75%

 

18 hours ago, Olive Skywalker said:

Very optimistic.

75% friday bump likely since its a toon. Cbm's do 40-50% if they have no competition. PS looking to come in at 6.5-7m +60-75%

Today to bump slightly again. WoM is still building, Saturday should be interesting. With 5 days of build up, there could be a lot of demand from the kiddies tgat dont go midweek. Could be a 200% bump. 

Th  25m

Fr   41

Sa  120 a reach but, its a mini tsunami

Su  115

486m 10 day total- Dog P 371m

580m 14 day total

Second week 372m total.

3 40% holds going forward make it to 1B/ $150m

 

Dangal bumped on the 3rd weekend

 

Dog P had a smaller first weekend, it had a second weekend bump but the fell 48% its 3rd weekend amidst competition and finished in the low 600s just missing $100m

 

750m + should happen

1B still very possible, 

Will WoM build like Dangal and Zoo or taper off like Dog? We'll know more with the Mon-Tues holds

 

Thru Thursday

Dog   222m   18m thur      609m tot

Coco 210m   25m thur

 

Cocos thursday is 35% bigger than Dogs. Its Fri-Sat bumps will be bigger as it skews younger. At a minimum the remainder of the run should be 35% bigger than Dog's putting coco at 745m. Its more likely to be 50% larger or more, 800m+

 

 

18 hours ago, mredman said:

when will JL pass 100 million you guys think ?

Next weekend

 

 

Nice quotes guys

Edited November 30, 2017 by POTUS

[Robert Cain]

1 hour ago, Olive Skywalker said:

Chengdu is only 100 km away from my hometown, hope you will enjoy Sichuan food.

Thanks Olive. I love Sichuan food, I've just never had it in Sichuan. Looking forward to seeing your home province.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

1 hour ago, POTUS said:

 

75% friday bump likely since its a toon. Cbm's do 40-50% if they have no competition. PS looking to come in at 6.5-7m +60-75%

Today to bump slightly again. WoM is still building, Saturday should be interesting. With 5 days of build up, there could be a lot of demand from the kiddies tgat dont go midweek. Could be a 200% bump. 

Th  25m

Fr   41

Sa  120 a reach but, its a mini tsunami

Su  115

486m 10 day total

580m 14 day total

Second week 372m total.

3 40% holds going forward make it to 1B/ $150m

 

Dangal bumped on the 3rd weekend

 

Dog P had a smaller first weekend, it had a second weekend bump but the fell 48% its 3rd weekend amidst competition and finished in the low 600s just missing $100m

 

750m + should happen

1B still very possible, 

Will WoM build like Dangal and Zoo or taper off like Dog? We'll know more witg the Mon-Tues holds

 

Next weekend

 

 

Nice quotes guys

good projection.

 

150m Sat not happening. I was a little bit carried away last weekend. But 120m is not out of reach.

Maybe, the lack of adorable characters like Zootopia's Nike and Judy makes Coco's holds not quite as insane as Zootopia's. Still, if Coco makes it to 1B, that would be 83x its OD, topping Dangal for a new record.

 

	The Monkey King (3D)			Zootopia (3D)			Coco (3D)
Maoyan		9.3			9.5			9.6
Day	Daily Gross (￥/M)	Change (%)	Cume Gross  (￥/M)	Daily Gross  (￥/M)	Change  (%)	Cume Gross (￥/M)	Daily Gross (￥/M)	Change (%)	Cume Gross (￥/M)
Thu
Fri	18	-%	28	23	-%	23	12	-%	12
Sat	29	61.1%	57	60.5	163.0%	83.5	44.2	266.7%	56.2
Sun	40.5	39.7%	97.5	72.5	19.8%	156	54.3	36.4%	108.6
Mon	39.6	-2.2%	137.1	36.5	-49.7%	192.5	18.6		127.2
Tue	58	46.5%	195.1	69	89.0%	238.5	20		147.2
Wed	66	13.8%	261.1	44.5	-35.5%	306	22.3		169.5
Thu	49	-25.8%	310.1	43	-3.4%	349	24		193.5
Fri	37	-24.5%	347.1	72	67.4%	421	40		233.5
Sat	63	70.3%	410.1	170	136.1%	591	120		353.5
Sun	62	-1.6%	472.1	150	-11.8%	741	115		468.5
Mon	31	-50.0%	503.1	43	-71.3%	784
Tue	28.5	-8.1%	531.6	38	-11.6%	822
Wed	25.2	-11.6%	556.8	33.5	-11.8%	855.5
Thu	22.2	-11.9%	579	29	-13.4%	884.5
Fri	21	-5.4%	600	47	62.1%	931.5
Sat	38.1	81.4%	638.1	109	131.9%	1040.5
Sun	39	2.4%	677.1	86	-21.1%	1126.5
Mon	17	-56.4%	694.1	18.5	-78.5%	1145
Tue	16.7	-1.8%	710.8	17	-8.1%	1162
Wed	15	-10.2%	725.8	15.2	-10.6%	1177.2
Thu	9.6	-36.0%	735.4	14	-7.9%	1191.2
Fri	9.8	2.1%	745.2	19.4	38.6%	1210.6
Sat	20	104.1%	765.2	50	157.7%	1260.6
Sun	21.2	6.0%	786.4	43	-14.0%	1303.6
Mon	9.7	-54.2%	796.1	10	-76.7%	1313.6
Tue	10.2	5.2%	806.3	10	0.0%	1323.6
Wed	9.7	-4.9%	816	9	-10.0%	1332.6
Thu	7.8	-19.6%	823.8	9	0.0%	1341.6
Fri	7	-10.3%	830.8	10	11.1%	1351.6
Sat	13	85.7%	843.8	32	220.0%	1383.6
Sun	15	15.4%	858.8	32	0.0%	1415.6
first 30 days			858.8			1415.6
All #s excluding service fees

 

[eXtacy]

Very interesting market China at times it is the most super-frontloaded with bad multipliers but every now and then you can have films increase 150-200% from their original weekend. Super strange.

 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 30, 2017 by eXtacy

[Stewart]

According to Maoyan, Coco has now hit 200M yuan total! Although that number should be more than doubled by Sunday...

[fmpro]

7 hours ago, fmpro said:

Looks like 25-26 mill for CC and 9,5 mill for JL

 

Coco seems to have a healthy increase tomorrow and could explode on sat/sun

 

Just under for Coco and just over for JL according to Maoyan

[POTUS 2020]

CC PS up 70% for tomorrow. Will clear 40m

JL will be close to flat 8-9m

Paddington PS at 350k with 10k shows. Will probably be a typical toon opener in the teens

 

[Olive]

Thursday est after service fees
Coco  -  25.0m/209m +4.4%
Justice League  -  9.75m / 597.6m -2%
Manhunt  -  5.2m/98.3m -9.4%
Thor: Ragnarok  -  1.14m / 741m +0%
Orient Express  -  0.8m / 225.2m -4%
- Coco increased again and crossed 200M yuan like a walk in the park

- Thor R beat War for Apes and became #10 foreign movie of 2017
 
Friday showtimes and forecast
Fireworks(23.0%), presales 11M , Maoyan predicts 29.2M OD
Coco (19.5%), 7M+ presales, maoyan predicts 38.2M but too low

[seduh]

Great opening week for Coco. It will have a very healthy increase this weekend so a +$35 second weekend is on store. $100 it`s happening for this movie

[UserHN]

22 minutes ago, Olive Skywalker said:

Thursday est after service fees
Coco  -  25.0m/209m +4.4%
Justice League  -  9.75m / 597.6m -2%
Manhunt  -  5.2m/98.3m -9.4%
Thor: Ragnarok  -  1.14m / 741m +0%
Orient Express  -  0.8m / 225.2m -4%
- Coco increased again and crossed 200M yuan like a walk in the park

- Thor R beat War for Apes and became #10 foreign movie of 2017
 
Friday showtimes and forecast
Fireworks(23.0%), presales 11M , Maoyan predicts 29.2M OD
Coco (19.5%), 7M+ presales, maoyan predicts 38.2M but too low

What is the Friday expectations for Coco? Why is 38.2M too low?

[Olive]

1 minute ago, UserHN said:

What is the Friday expectations for Coco? Why is 38.2M too low?

40M+

[Subzero]

23 hours ago, Olive Skywalker said:

Oh, Disney you fail! She is the most famous BO poison in China and sucks in acting.

 

...  I love her in the Condor's Hero in 2006 ....