China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

[charlie Jatinder]

1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said:

Seems like Chinese Doctors is going to give a “average” performance with ¥1~1.5 billion in terms of patriotism movies. 

What's update on Black Widow. Do you know specific on what USSR issue is problem

 

[Gavin Feng]

21 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

What's update on Black Widow. Do you know specific on what USSR issue is problem

 

 

according to the most recent info, leaving the dark socialism and joining the light capitalism is the biggest problem the movie is facing during censorship process. This could've been ignored as long as BW opened on Apr.30. But the delay cause a window of noticing this problem. It's unclear how they're gonna handle it(deletion or ban or what), but the farewell to Natasha is f**ked up.

[charlie Jatinder]

China don't really do that big financially but does giving a big gross for bragging rights. Will need that for BW perception as a success.

 

As in something may do $40M in Australia, earning ~$18M SHARE to studio on 1000 screens with ~$1M release cost. While something doing $200M in China, earning $40M SHARE on 40000 screens with ~$25M release cost.

 

But when reporting, China is $200M while AUS is $40M.

Edited June 28, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[Mau]

Any news about Luca release date in China?

[john2000]

1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said:

 

according to the most recent info, leaving the dark socialism and joining the light capitalism is the biggest problem the movie is facing during censorship process. This could've been ignored as long as BW opened on Apr.30. But the delay cause a window of noticing this problem. It's unclear how they're gonna handle it(deletion or ban or what), but the farewell to Natasha is f**ked up.

In any cass we will probabky have an announcement soon enough ,they are running out of time

[charlie Jatinder]

Good increase today as well for Cruella. Tomorrow again seems like will increase, may be ¥4M.

 

Hopefully it get license extension.

 

[Krissykins]

On 6/28/2021 at 3:00 PM, Gavin Feng said:

 

according to the most recent info, leaving the dark socialism and joining the light capitalism is the biggest problem the movie is facing during censorship process.

Hahaa, that is absolutely ludicrous. China never fails to cause laughs 

[titanic2187]

On 6/28/2021 at 10:00 PM, Gavin Feng said:

 

according to the most recent info, leaving the dark socialism and joining the light capitalism is the biggest problem the movie is facing during censorship process. This could've been ignored as long as BW opened on Apr.30. But the delay cause a window of noticing this problem. It's unclear how they're gonna handle it(deletion or ban or what), but the farewell to Natasha is f**ked up.

So we can agree just how generous was CFB when they allowed Hunger Games series to play in China, probably on the belief that the series won't be a big hit   

[Gavin Feng]

12 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

So we can agree just how generous was CFB when they allowed Hunger Games series to play in China, probably on the belief that the series won't be a big hit   

Well, Palpatine didn't rule everything yet when the first HG movie came out.

[Legion Again]

Man, this has been pretty dead since CNY. Are there some expected big movies coming soon?

[Gavin Feng]

2 hours ago, Lokis Legion said:

Man, this has been pretty dead since CNY. Are there some expected big movies coming soon?

 

a movie called The Battle at Lake Changjin, telling a story about the key battle of founding PRC. ¥1 billion+ production budget by three co-director. Bona Film Group sold it stocks at the price of ¥1.3 billion(premium cost). Local industry expect it could do ¥4 billion+ even challenge Wolf Warrior 2. It's said the photographic materials are too huge to make it be one movie, bringing the possibilities of making it be two parts. 

 

Quote

Cannes: Tsui Hark, Chen Kaige and Dante Lam Co-Direct China’s Most Expensive Film Ever

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/chinas-most-expensive-film-ever-1234972528/

[Legion Again]

15 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

 

a movie called The Battle at Lake Changjin, telling a story about the key battle of founding PRC. ¥1 billion+ production budget by three co-director. Bona Film Group sold it stocks at the price of ¥1.3 billion(premium cost). Local industry expect it could do ¥4 billion+ even challenge Wolf Warrior 2. It's said the photographic materials are too huge to make it be one movie, bringing the possibilities of making it be two parts. 

 

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/chinas-most-expensive-film-ever-1234972528/

That looks pretty neat, but 4th quarter seems far away. I was hoping to see several ¥1.5B+ from March-July but instead it’s been a total drought.   
 

Partially it’s been lack of HW releases of course, but still. 

[Gavin Feng]

8 minutes ago, Lokis Legion said:

That looks pretty neat, but 4th quarter seems far away. I was hoping to see several ¥1.5B+ from March-July but instead it’s been a total drought.   
 

Partially it’s been lack of HW releases of course, but still. 

It's said the first part might land a date of July 30th.

[charlie Jatinder]

I was told by someone that BW may release in July if local releases fail otherwise Aug. Wonder how much did HBO Max release impacted GvK. There is no way of knowing that though, except say Taiwan was +55% KoTM and same for China would have been $225M Approx, so not much difference, but delay all the way till August, IDK.

[Gavin Feng]

31 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

I was told by someone that BW may release in July if local releases fail otherwise Aug. Wonder how much did HBO Max release impacted GvK. There is no way of knowing that though, except say Taiwan was +55% KoTM and same for China would have been $225M Approx, so not much difference, but delay all the way till August, IDK.

local movies in July are certainly gonna flop, but in Aug will be huge.

[charlie Jatinder]

Disney was probably best relations with China in last few years, why will they eff up like that, every film of their is subject to some trouble.

[charlie Jatinder]

Extension granted to Cruella. May be ¥170M. Every million dollar matter for my super bold $300M goal which is pretty dead but I will spin a $280M as win.

 

[Gavin Feng]

I'm going to track how many users will rate Black Widow on Douban film site. Mulan was rated by nearly 70k users before opening day(a week after D+ premiere). It's fair to expect BW could challenge it. Trailers from both of them got enormous attentions. 

[charlie Jatinder]

28 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

I'm going to track how many users will rate Black Widow on Douban film site. Mulan was rated by nearly 70k users before opening day(a week after D+ premiere). It's fair to expect BW could challenge it. Trailers from both of them got enormous attentions. 

We didn't really see change in trend for GvK post HBO Max release. SOUL though at small level trended well as well.

 

Though one must wonder if that $60M it did could have been $100M without Disney+ or not.

 

How much do you think piracy impacts. Re-releases do really well in China, ffs Avatar did $50M (right) just this year. So could it be that piracy don't impact much.

 

Edit: Checking Douban, 196K (266K total) rated Mulan after one week then. TLK had 325K ratings. Aladdin 278K. Frozen 2 330K.

Edited July 5, 2021 by charlie Jatinder

[TigerPaw]

17 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

We didn't really see change in trend for GvK post HBO Max release. SOUL though at small level trended well as well.

 

Though one must wonder if that $60M it did could have been $100M without Disney+ or not.

 

How much do you think piracy impacts. Re-releases do really well in China, ffs Avatar did $50M (right) just this year. So could it be that piracy don't impact much.

 

Edit: Checking Douban, 196K (266K total) rated Mulan after one week then. TLK had 325K ratings. Aladdin 278K. Frozen 2 330K.

GvK no such trend because HBO max release is 1 week after; so the chatter among audiences then were like “Hey I caught GvK in xxx cinemas last week, was epic!”. And then people see the Maoyan score and proceed to buy tickets.

Weibo posts you wil see audience reviews with images of ticket stubs, photos taken of the characters on big screen. Baidu search results in showtimes / ticket booking sites.. even in the second week.

 

Black Widow will face the same issue as Mulan where piracy comes BEFORE actual release so no Maoyan score and you will see lots of weibo posts of screenshots of the movie on their phones or laptop and sharing links. Baidu search wil have more pirated links turning up instead of reviews or showtimes / ticket booking. 
 

I am sure some fan will still wait to watch or rewatch it in theaters; Mulan earned CNY270m despite basically everyone watching it online already…

but if the wait is 1 month instead of a week… Not so sure how many fans are patient.