China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

[Mau]

55 minutes ago, Arian1010 said:

 

Haha, same, I've even prepared myself to say goodbye to Shang Chi's titular sequel film already, perhaps he might reappear in some random  Disney+ Marvel TV shows in the future but the risk of putting him in crossover big-budget Marvel films doesn't worth it. However on the other hand most people are fond of  SC's sister Xialing, the actress doesn't have a "bad reputation" in the mainland and her character doesn't have a controversial comic origin either, perhaps Marvel will push her instead.

Au contraire it looks like the charcater will have more sequels regardless of what happens in China

Edited September 9, 2021 by Mau

[Arian1010]

19 minutes ago, Mau said:

Au contraire it looks like the charcater will have more sequels regardlessH of what happena in China

 

Yeah, in the film they stated that Shang Chi will be an official Avenger and he might play a big role in the future because at the time both the studio and Feige himself hoped that mainland China would accept Shang Chi and realize that Marvel did the film out of respect for Chinese people, and it's certainly not another atrocious film like Mulan. Feige also repeated the same things again in his late interview for Weibo. But who could foresee it end up in this circumstance? 

Edited September 9, 2021 by Arian1010

[XXR vs XXR]

48 minutes ago, Arian1010 said:

Haha, same, I've even prepared myself to say goodbye to Shang Chi's titular sequel film already, perhaps he might reappear in some random  Disney+ Marvel TV shows in the future but the risk of putting him in crossover big-budget Marvel films doesn't worth it.

 

LOL if you think Shang Chi won't get a sequel or be in all the major crossovers. 

[TigerPaw]

8 hours ago, TigerPaw said:

Someone needs to tell Simu Liu to keep quiet if he wants the movie to be shown in China.

He has no EQ or what.

 

The interview is going viral in China.. i know it may not be recent but he has to be careful with his words. If anyone has any doubts about China, go down to China today and see how much she has advanced. I am from Singapore and when I visited Shang Chi in 2016... I was freaking amazed.

 

 

Went to read more comments on Weibo this morning; there are rationale netizens there... a lot of them. And they pointed out it is okay to say there were people starving in China but it seems almost deliberate for Simu to use the word "communism" in his sentence...

[Arian1010]

10 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

LOL if you think Shang Chi won't get a sequel or be in all the major crossovers. 

 

Only time will tell, but I can't see any strong reason for them to keep pushing a character and the film that were carefully tailored for mainland China but then gets rejected by mainland China.  Well unless, against all odds, this film still miraculously gets an official release date in the mainland

Edited September 9, 2021 by Arian1010

[Nerfy]

3 minutes ago, Arian1010 said:

 

Only time will tell, but I can't see any strong reason for them to keep pushing a character and the film that were carefully tailored for mainland China but then gets rejected by mainland China.  Well unless, against all odds, this film still miraculously gets an official release date in the mainland

Maybe because it's already a hit in America?

[Barnack]

33 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:

Went to read more comments on Weibo this morning; there are rationale netizens there... a lot of them. And they pointed out it is okay to say there were people starving in China but it seems almost deliberate for Simu to use the word "communism" in his sentence...

Well yes, is the communist party of China deny that is parent grew up in communism China ? It was socialism not communist if people get technical about it, but it is the common language way to talk and was the official one I think by the authorities.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Barnack

[TigerPaw]

9 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Well yes, is the communist party of China deny that is parent grew up in communism China ? It was socialism not communist is people get technical about it, but it is the common language way to talk and was the official one I think by the authorities.

Just relaying what I saw, like i said in my previous post - i help to translate and share stuff here - don't come at me as if it was my own opinion and I have to defend it. LOL.

 

I think the interview was about why he came to Canada, you know people can always talk about the "pull" factors instead of focusing on the "push" and then further elaboration using the word communism.

 

I am not saying what he said is wrong; and again.. reread what I said previously - i don't even think he meant to offend anyone. But sometimes it is not the intention that matters; sometimes it is how the message is received..

Edited September 9, 2021 by TigerPaw

[Heroicpiglet]

Yeah the party name is Chinese Communist Party.

[Fox20]

54 minutes ago, Arian1010 said:

 

Only time will tell, but I can't see any strong reason for them to keep pushing a character and the film that were carefully tailored for mainland China but then gets rejected by mainland China.  Well unless, against all odds, this film still miraculously gets an official release date in the mainland

Ah yes the film they spent so much time saying it was for "ASIAN AMERICANS" is a success in America and you think not being accepted on China will make the character disappear? especially knowing how Marvel operates.

 

It's irrelevant if it was "taylor made for China" if it's sucessful either way, like there is no logic  of that mindset.

[Arian1010]

35 minutes ago, Fox20 said:

Ah yes the film they spent so much time saying it was for "ASIAN AMERICANS" is a success in America and you think not being accepted on China will make the character disappear? especially knowing how Marvel operates.

 

It's irrelevant if it was "taylor made for China" if it's sucessful either way, like there is no logic  of that mindset.

 

I agree that Western outlets made it look like SC film mostly catered to Asian Americans, and I know some of them even suggested that Hollywood shouldn't try to reach out to China market since it has strong censorship. But BO members like us should have known better than that shouldn't we? It's a blatant fact that Disney and Feige cared about China market. Even in the Endgame world premiere that was held in China, Feige publicly told local journalists that he was very excited for phase 4 because they were gonna make a film about a Chinese superhero. He cared about mainlanders' criticism and made his best effort to die down the rumors that Shang Chi film was made with racist purpose etc. 
Objectively, Marvel is already a big established and trustworthy brand, they don't need Shang Chi character and Shang Chi sequels to survive in the US market, most of their films were and will be a big hit among the general audience anyway, instead of spending money on making a film about SC they could simply make films about other superheroes. It's not like Chinese moviegoers are gonna against the entire Marvel brand because of SC.

Edited September 9, 2021 by Arian1010

[TigerPaw]

2 hours ago, Fox20 said:

Ah yes the film they spent so much time saying it was for "ASIAN AMERICANS" is a success in America and you think not being accepted on China will make the character disappear? especially knowing how Marvel operates.

 

It's irrelevant if it was "taylor made for China" if it's sucessful either way, like there is no logic  of that mindset.

Eh..here in Asia... HK, Msia, Singapore... It is marketed as made for Asians.

First Asian Superhero.

[poweranimals]

Curious about something. We know why China isn't releasing movies they find contraversial but what's the reason Jungle Cruise hasn't recieved a release?

[john2000]

17 minutes ago, poweranimals said:

Curious about something. We know why China isn't releasing movies they find contraversial but what's the reason Jungle Cruise hasn't recieved a release?

Probably bc of piracy...i would expect disney not to push for a release for both bw and jc....unlike shang where its theatrical exlusive

[poweranimals]

Just now, john2000 said:

Probably bc of piracy...i would expect disney not to push for a release for both bw and jc....unlike shang where its theatrical exlusive

That would be dumb since even Luca got a release there.

[john2000]

4 minutes ago, poweranimals said:

That would be dumb since even Luca got a release there.

Maybe they had already approved it...and bc of low box office in aug they released it...idk

[Mau]

2 hours ago, john2000 said:

Maybe they had already approved it...and bc of low box office in aug they released it...idk

On May I thought Luca was gonna be the only movie from Disney to not be released in China. I assumed Disney would not care about it, since Most pixar films do so poorly there. Who would have thought it is the only one released there since Raya and Cruella

[cdsacken]

China has been cracking down on everything. I mean Jesus look at the tech world. There is no appeasing at this point you just have to see where it goes.

[exomassey]

https://deadline.com/2021/09/shang-chi-china-release-simu-liu-marvel-1234830474/

[john2000]

11 minutes ago, exomassey said:

https://deadline.com/2021/09/shang-chi-china-release-simu-liu-marvel-1234830474/

its fate may now be sealed

 

the article doesnt confirm anything though......its all a speculation at this point.......i am not saying that shang WILL get a release there..but really the article doesnt say anything...

 

 

@Gavin Feng idk your sources but in case that shang doesnt release in china..will you be able to know ? 

Edited September 10, 2021 by john2000