China Box Office Thread | Oppenheimer-August 30

[NamakFiskKa]

9 hours ago, Barnack said:

Those sequel doing less will become common now I imagine.

What about the Godzilla sequel ?

[fmpro]

2 hours ago, NamakFiskKa said:

What about the Godzilla sequel ?

 

Same IMO. Unless its really good quality

[Valonqar]

6 hours ago, fmpro said:

 

Same IMO. Unless its really good quality

The thing is that if, lets say, sequel to a shitty movie is actually good, it still has hard time attracting audience back cause they got burned the first time. Unless we are talking about super franchises such as MCU, that managed to turn meh anticipation for Ragnarok after TDW into a must-see thing. But what MCU did is genius. They changed the entire tone of the movie and let the previews show that it was in no way like TDW. And they didn't hide the money shot (Thor vs Hulk). OTOH, studios are rarely ready to take completely different route in order to salvage the situation. They simply do more of the same but with bigger 'splosions. 

Edited March 26, 2018 by Valonqar

[fmpro]

Around 33 mill monday for PRU. Ehhh

 

Around 11 mill for TR. Pretty good drop

[intenso]

8 minutes ago, fmpro said:

Around 33 mill monday for PRU. Ehhh

 

Around 11 mill for TR. Pretty good drop

excellent for TR. Still see $80 million total for it there or are you seeing more now ?

[bangbingchan]

12 hours ago, NamakFiskKa said:

What about the Godzilla sequel ?

Wait for the teaser.If Godzilla sequel is same quality as Kong Skull island,King of Monsters can be big too.Kong teaser is great.It seems Legendary picture works well with WB.Kong,Godzilla and the first Pacific rim are all great monster films.But Legendary fail with UNI.The Great Wall,Pacific rim uprising Both flop.strange.

 

Edited March 26, 2018 by bangbingchan

[NamakFiskKa]

9 minutes ago, bangbingchan said:

It seems Legendary picture works well with WB.Kong,Godzilla and the first Pacific rim are all great monster films

They've partnered with WB many times way before 2013-14 iir

[bangbingchan]

3 hours ago, Valonqar said:

The thing is that if, lets say, sequel to a shitty movie is actually good, it still has hard time attracting audience back cause they got burned the first time. Unless we are talking about super franchises such as MCU, that managed to turn meh anticipation for Ragnarok after TDW into a must-see thing. But what MCU did is genius. They changed the entire tone of the movie and let the previews show that it was in no way like TDW. And they didn't hide the money shot (Thor vs Hulk). OTOH, studios are rarely ready to take completely different route in order to salvage the situation. They simply do more of the same but with bigger 'splosions. 

I don't think Pacific rim is a shitty film.The first one is too good.The sequel is much worse.So Audience hate the sequel more than ever.If they don't fire Del Toro,Pacific rim2 will be much better.Audience hate they change the tone and staff from the original ones.Del Toro is the key.if Pacific rim sequel is still directed by Him,$200M+ is not impossible.His taste for Monster Film is excellent.

 

Even MCU has strong brand.Black Pather will likely drop in the future.Audience don't like it.So they abandon it.It won't drop like Star wars.But It's very possible to decrease

Edited March 26, 2018 by bangbingchan

[bangbingchan]

1 minute ago, NamakFiskKa said:

They've partnered with WB many times way before 2013-14 iir

They remain cooperation in Kong and Godzilla sequel.So Godzilla sequel is still possible to be great.

[Valonqar]

@bangbingchan Nothing will ever drop like Star Wars in China. That one's for history books. 

[Cookson]

Godzilla 2 can only go up imo. The first didn't crack 80m. I expect G2 to hit 100m

Edited March 26, 2018 by Cookson

[fmpro]

2 hours ago, intenso said:

excellent for TR. Still see $80 million total for it there or are you seeing more now ?

Hard to say. 80 mill is still the target

[Bishop54]

3 hours ago, fmpro said:

Around 33 mill monday for PRU. Ehhh

 

Around 11 mill for TR. Pretty good drop

How does that 33 mill compare to BP's first Monday?

[meriodejaneiro]

37 minutes ago, Bishop54 said:

How does that 33 mill compare to BP's first Monday?

PRU 1st monday 33m ($5.28M) is a bit under BP's 1st monday ($5.65M)

[Valonqar]

PRU ending up under BP would be great. may the better movie (that wasn't made for one market only) win. 

[a2k]

PRU missing 100 in China will be some story. Especially when TR is looking at 80 and is comparatively a smaller film especially in China, which faced PRU in the 2nd weekend.

 

A month back would have been considered normal for PRU to do 2.5-3x TR (150-160 vs 50-60)

[Valonqar]

so what's cited as the main reasons for PRU under-performance - previews, actors, too long a gap between PR and PRU, change in taste, bad WOM, something else? 

[John Marston]

57 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

so what's cited as the main reasons for PRU under-performance - previews, actors, too long a gap between PR and PRU, change in taste, bad WOM, something else? 

 

 

too long between movies I say is main reason. The first one is forgotten. If it came out two or three years after the first it would have likely done better

[Valonqar]

26 minutes ago, John Marston said:

 

 

too long between movies I say is main reason. The first one is forgotten. If it came out two or three years after the first it would have likely done better

Agreed. There's nostalgia (over 10 years, strong franchise) and then there's no-one-cares-anymore. 

[Zakiyyah6]

I was starting to suspect that Pacific Rim 2 would only do a little bit better than the first at best.