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17 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

TBH I was expecting 800 to be banned after @Gavin Feng pointing out few months back that China is getting hard on propoganda films like Wolf Warrior 2. I don't know historical accuracy of 800 but I won't shed any tears if something awful like WW 2 is banned

 

Ironically, if Eight Hundred is historically accurate, it is very likely be banned by CCP. If it is not truthful about (or underplays) which Army the soldiers were from, and instead plays up the "inspirational role" CCP claims it had on Chinese people back in Resistance War, then it can be released.

 

My guess is, this film will be asked to do major overhaul before re-submitted to censorship board.

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25 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

It is sad but laughable too as well. Imagine MPAA banning Endgame and TROS in US.

More like if president was Bernie Sanders and he banned American sniper :D

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One more question, @Gavin Feng. The last BIG release of the summer: Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw. Are we still thinking it can get a day and date release with the US in China on August 2nd? Or is it too early to tell?

 

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Movies4Life said:

One more question, @Gavin Feng. The last BIG release of the summer: Fast and Furious Presents: Hobbs and Shaw. Are we still thinking it can get a day and date release with the US in China on August 2nd? Or is it too early to tell?

 

 

 

 

some chances to get a Aug date. If not, it probably will not come until the middle of Oct.

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1 hour ago, VenomXXR said:

 

 

That’s crazy to me. Yea it’s great for FFH and TLK, but at the expense of potentially amazing Chinese cinema. Sucks. 

 

1 hour ago, druv10 said:

Can you give more thorough reasons as to why censor Chinese movies vs imports? 

Because Chinese audiences tend to less emtionally invested in imported films which boast foreign characters and are about stories taking place aboard—at least in most cases. Even more so when it comes to grand made Hollywood films. They are just there to be entertained. However, from local films, audiences often, and necessarily expect to get not only entertainment but also thoughts, and reflections of the culture and socity they live in. Famliar faces of local actors only enhance the connection.

 

CCP certainly knows it. Its propaganda centrum knows it. So there be the double standards of censorship on local and imported films.

 

When the regime is built on threats and lies, speaking of totalitarian, naturally everything shall be censored: thought, theory, opinion, discovery, publication, art...film is just a small part of the big picture....only to find out and put out any potentail revolt, any fighting against authoritarian & authority. The authority could be the government, the police, or an official, a parent, a teacher, a professor. Fundamentally it is the same parenting role. Many Chinese films simply died because of this.

 

China is not 1984......yet. But objectively the US-China trade war is moving China one step closer to Noth Korea, on the political attitude so far, as CCP tights its control on Chinese people. It is possible that China bans American films alltogether if the tension rises, aka revolving into a new cold war, a totally disconnected China and US. 

 

With The Eight Hundred (maybe Better Days and The Last Wish as well), we have our first caucalties (at CBO).

 

Edited sentence: of course, eventually these films could still struggle to theaters, after raped by censorship.

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25 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said:

some chances to get a Aug date. If not, it probably will not come until the middle of Oct.

Ok

 

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1 minute ago, firedeep said:

It is possible that China bans American films alltogether if the tension rises, aka revolving into a new cold war, a totally disconnected China and US. 

There goes Avatar sequels $2Bn club.

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Dark Phoenix with a whopping 95% drops from last Friday. Probably around 55-56m after this weekend. Total may not be much more than 60-61m. Maybe even less at 55m. Atrocious legs. 

 

Godzilla 2 with a 89% drop from last Friday. Dont see more than 130m at this point. 

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48 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said:

Dark Phoenix with a whopping 95% drops from last Friday. Probably around 55-56m after this weekend. Total may not be much more than 60-61m. Maybe even less at 55m. Atrocious legs. 

 

Godzilla 2 with a 89% drop from last Friday. Dont see more than 130m at this point. 

Both are toast.

 

Zilla wont come near 130 mill and DP seems to be headed around 57-58 mill total

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1 hour ago, Sunny Max said:

@a2k KOTM drop ...

That total Dark P number is way of

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1 hour ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

There goes Avatar sequels $2Bn club.

A full-on Cold War would start and end before Avatar 2 comes out.

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1 hour ago, ZeeSoh said:

Dark Phoenix with a whopping 95% drops from last Friday. Probably around 55-56m after this weekend. Total may not be much more than 60-61m. Maybe even less at 55m. Atrocious legs. 

 

Godzilla 2 with a 89% drop from last Friday. Dont see more than 130m at this point. 

yeah .. even less than $130 M  ... 

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MIB did 6x PS? And with a bad rating.

Maoyan is very unpredictable now

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32 minutes ago, fmpro said:

Both are toast.

 

Zilla wont come near 130 mill and DP seems to be headed around 57-58 mill total

$57 to $58 M for DP ... Can movie do this with that kind of drop ..???

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1 hour ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

There goes Avatar sequels $2Bn club.

No no, there goes 3 billie club, because it is supposed to do 4 billies, with China contributing 1 billie plus.

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Wow, just woke up and my head is spinning with this news. Seems very bad for CBO and artistic expression to be tightening the reigns on censorship like that. And if they actually totally barred US imports+overcensor locals, I imagine theater owners would be livid.    

 

Silver lining I suppose is that Better Days+800 were making me pretty nervous for FFH.

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1 hour ago, fmpro said:

Both are toast.

 

Zilla wont come near 130 mill and DP seems to be headed around 57-58 mill total

yeah doubting even $125 for Zilla.

 

DP doing $125 from China and Dom combined. So goodbye $300 ww, $250 here we come?

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47 minutes ago, a2k said:

yeah doubting even $125 for Zilla.

 

DP doing $125 from China and Dom combined. So goodbye $300 ww, $250 here we come?

yep .. max $250 M WW for DP ...

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