Olive Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 8 hours ago, MCKillswitch123 said: This is probably an idiotic question, but do you guys think that Chinese audiences' distaste for BP could negatively influence the hype for IW over there, even if just a little bit? Especially if BP and Wakanda are heavily featured in the movie itself, like I presume they might. BP will have positive affection on IW in my opinion, people will have low expectation than TA2. BP Sunday -37%, worst drop for a superhero movie. BVS Sunday drop was 34% 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Yeah BP 2 will drop hard in China, but it won't be as bad as The Last Jedi. Star Wars is a lost cause in China. I wonder what Marvel will do to combat the BP 2 drop in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 21 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: BP finishes with about 110 for Sunday. A 35.3% drop from Saturday which is decent all things considered. Weekend total - 422 m OR 66.6m USD A Spiderman like multi will get it to 110m final total. BP will need about 1.5x to get to 100 million. PS for tomorrow is at 5 million. Heading to about 20-25m tomorrow for a drop of about 75-82% which would be quite steep but expected It seems BP surprised! about 35m today which is just 68% drop, pretty good all things considered 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EarlyDeadlinePredictions Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Do you goes think it will have a better or worse hold than SM Homecoming second week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 hour ago, feasby007 said: It seems BP surprised! about 35m today which is just 68% drop, pretty good all things considered Yes it definitely did. It's gonna have a fall of 66% which is far better than I expected and is pretty much a standard fall. 42 minutes ago, EarlyDeadlinePredictions said: Do you goes think it will have a better or worse hold than SM Homecoming second week? No clue. BP doesnt have that big of a competition in its second week (Tomb Raider) as SMH did in its second week (WftPotA) so it had that advantage. But its rating is slightly worse than SMH and it seems to be even more frontloaded so can't tell. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spidey Freak Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Hades said: I wonder what Marvel will do to combat the BP 2 drop in China. Shanghai action sequence? Special Chinese cut featuring Fan BingBing and Wang Xueqi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Tomb Raider OD PS at 2.38. Thats a 51.6% rise from yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Could Amazing China become a problem for Panther and Tombraider this weekend.. PS and WOM looks great in the coming days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 BP with about 36.88m today. Thats a 66.5% drop which is pretty good all things considered. PS for tomorrow at 4.57. Based on PS, its heading to a small drop tomorrow which would be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, fmpro said: Could Amazing China become a problem for Panther and Tombraider this weekend.. PS and WOM looks great in the coming days For some reason that movie has very high Pre sales each day but the multi off of that PS is almost inexistant. Today for example it had more than double the PS of Black Panther and yet ended far behind it barely increasing from its PS. It's like its only doing business via pre sales. I'm sure the same will happen today as well. Edited March 12, 2018 by ZeeSoh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseOfTheSun Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, ZeeSoh said: For some reason that movie has very high Pre sales each day but the multi is off of that PS is almost inexistant. Today for example it had more than double the PS of Black Panther and yet ended far behind it barely increasing from its PS. It's like its only doing business via pre sales. I'm sure the same will happen today as well. Perhaps because the government is buying tickets and nobody else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouseOfTheSun Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Hades said: Yeah BP 2 will drop hard in China, but it won't be as bad as The Last Jedi. Star Wars is a lost cause in China. I wonder what Marvel will do to combat the BP 2 drop in China. BP is going to be in Avengers 3 and 4 which will give a huge boost to the character Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Hades said: Yeah BP 2 will drop hard in China, but it won't be as bad as The Last Jedi. Star Wars is a lost cause in China. I wonder what Marvel will do to combat the BP 2 drop in China. Disney is probably less worried about one of their 50 superheroes than the future of the entire Star Wars franchise in the #1 market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 hours ago, MrGlass2 said: Disney is probably less worried about one of their 50 superheroes than the future of the entire Star Wars franchise in the #1 market. I think any chance of saving Star Wars in China is pretty much gone anyway. The only possible way I could see that changing a bit, would be if the Johnson or Benioff/Weiss series go into an unexpected direction that appeals to Chinese audiences and they keep the fact that it is Star Wars rather low-key. Though I have no idea how that could possible be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 51 minutes ago, George Parr said: I think any chance of saving Star Wars in China is pretty much gone anyway. The only possible way I could see that changing a bit, would be if the Johnson or Benioff/Weiss series go into an unexpected direction that appeals to Chinese audiences and they keep the fact that it is Star Wars rather low-key. Though I have no idea how that could possible be done. Well for a start maybe China will enjoy Ranger Solo more than TLJ. It is supposed to be funnier and more action-packed, not unlike GOTG. (It would also help my bold $1B prediction) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) 5 hours ago, MrGlass2 said: Disney is probably less worried about one of their 50 superheroes than the future of the entire Star Wars franchise in the #1 market. Star Wars really doesn't need China to be very profitable anyway, they probably don't care much. As long as they have animated movies and Marvel and live action movies they'll be fine in this market. Sure, they're not huge in China but at least they're profitable with a growth potential on the long run. What Disney should do is developing new brands/franchises in China by opening Chinese studios, employing Chinese talents, buying Chinese firms..If they want to have a huge breakthrough someday it's likely to be the only way. And thankfully China is far from being the only growing market...countriesl ike Mexico and Brazil could be very profitable on the long run, Disney is doing very, very well there. Indonesia also has a real potential. Edited March 12, 2018 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Star Wars really doesn't need China to be very profitable anyway, they probably don't care much. As long as they have animated movies and Marvel and live action movies they'll be fine on this market. Sure, they're not huge in China but at least they're profitable with a growth potential on the long run. What Disney should do is developing new brands/franchises in China by opening Chinese studios, employing Chinese talents, buying Chinese firms..If they want to have a huge breakthrough someday it's likely to be the only way. And thankfully China is far from being the only growing market...countriesl ike Mexico and Brazil could be very profitable on the long run, Disney is doing very, very well there. Indonesia also has a real potential. Imagine if a film could unlock the full potential of all markets, hily crap it would make so much money. Can't think of films to come that could manage it, not of the top of my head atleast. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 Just now, IronJimbo said: Imagine if a film could unlock the full potential of all markets, hily crap it would make so much money. Can't think of films to come that could manage it, not of the top of my head atleast. Too many different cultures and situations would make this incredibly difficult..the level of development also leads to different tastes and expectations for a movie, some of these markets have a strong local movie markets..etc.. I don't see this happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Fullbuster said: Too many different cultures and situations would make this incredibly difficult..the level of development also leads to different tastes and expectations for a movie, some of these markets have a strong local movie markets..etc.. I don't see this happening. It would have to an universal appeal, perhaps a story grounded by human emotions... perhaps the main theme could be something like family. Visually lets make ot a spectacle, so much so it takes everyones breath away. Add in some action for the lads and a bit of romance for the gals. We'll have ourselves a winner. Can't think if any films that will do this though... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted March 12, 2018 Share Posted March 12, 2018 6 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Too many different cultures and situations would make this incredibly difficult..the level of development also leads to different tastes and expectations for a movie, some of these markets have a strong local movie markets..etc.. I don't see this happening. India has so much potential (second only to China for OS market size by revenue), but Hollywood films have great difficulty breaking out. Apparently, over 85% of India's box office is from local movies like you mention. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...