Gavin Feng Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla KoTM, and now The Lion King were all predicted to be huge 200 mil+ hits in China but made a bit more than 100 mil. I have a feeling Hobbs and Shaw will follow suit. import films are not brave. Local titles are brave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, lorddemaxus said: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla KoTM, and now The Lion King were all predicted to be huge 200 mil+ hits in China but made a bit more than 100 mil. I have a feeling Hobbs and Shaw will follow suit. i never really understood why pickachu and kotm werent that big, ( i can see why lion king wasnt , i mean the highest remake is 150) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 3 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: import films are not brave. Local titles are brave. you predicted 300 for lion king and pickachu however Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 47 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: import films are not brave. Local titles are brave. Given it's insanely high Maoyan rating, what are we thinking for Ne Zha? $250m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 minutes ago, VenomXXR said: Given it's insanely high Maoyan rating, what are we thinking for Ne Zha? $250m? Should aim Zootopia at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo1500 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 minutes ago, Gavin Feng said: Should aim Zootopia at this point. Do you have the final numbers for saturday? Thanks in advance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 5 hours ago, john2000 said: final total for spidey ? Spidey will be close to 1.4b/$203.5m on Thursday, not much more than that w/wo extension. 1.410b/$205m 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 5 hours ago, lorddemaxus said: Detective Pikachu, Godzilla KoTM, and now The Lion King were all predicted to be huge 200 mil+ hits in China but made a bit more than 100 mil. I have a feeling Hobbs and Shaw will follow suit. I agree with your feeling. Rock can't carry this spin off movie to a 200+ hit in China imo. Pikachu should never have been predicted that high either, Pikachu is a cute character in China but the Pokemon brand is not that strong as a whole. Godzilla was a disappointment, I expected more from it too, but it squeezed out an ok run in the end. TLK is following the pattern of the remakes so not that surprising. I don't think Ne Zha is going to get close to Zootopia either. It will have bigger drops than people expect. Maybe some families want to see a Chinese themed animation right now but it's not going to grab the kid audience long term and doesn't have much appeal outside that. Just my opinion. Edited July 20, 2019 by RaidensSword Added last paragraph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) On 7/20/2019 at 11:49 AM, RaidensSword said: I agree with your feeling. Rock can't carry this spin off movie to a 200+ hit in China imo. I'm thinking the same. Maybe around $150 million like Rampage or Meg. Edited August 23, 2019 by KP1025 Mixed up the gross for Skyscraper with Meg. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, KP1025 said: I'm thinking the same. Maybe around $150 million like Rampage and Skyscraper. Yes, the Fast & Furious brand name will help but it still needs the movie to be good or at least likeable enough for the Fast & Furious fanbase. I think around 150 would be a good result to be happy with. Edited July 20, 2019 by RaidensSword Grammar 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 I never realized Frozen had such a high rating in China. What are the expectations for the sequel, box office wise? Frozen itself only made about $50 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KP1025 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 10 minutes ago, VenomXXR said: I never realized Frozen had such a high rating in China. What are the expectations for the sequel, box office wise? Frozen itself only made about $50 million. With rare exceptions like Zootopia and Coco, animated films in China seem to really struggle to break out even with excellent ratings (look at Toy Story 4 as the latest example). That said, I do expect a decent increase for Frozen II in China. The first film actually had a good multiplier (only opened to $14 million) but couldn't hold onto enough screens to really develop late legs like in South Korea or Japan. It actually had a rare second weekend increase, so it seemed WOM was starting to build. And based off this post (in response to whether Frozen II can top Zootopia), it looks like the film has left a big impact in China just like other parts of East Asia. On 5/5/2019 at 11:30 PM, firedeep said: I think yes. Frozen merchandise everywhere. It has grown into something mega in the past five years. My personal expectations are $100 million for now. Any higher would require the same level of reception as the original and a good release date. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 6 hours ago, Geo1500 said: Do you have the final numbers for saturday? Thanks in advance Ne Zha isn't getting released until next week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, RaidensSword said: don't think Ne Zha is going to get close to Zootopia either. It will have bigger drops than people expect. Maybe some families want to see a Chinese themed animation right now but it's not going to grab the kid audience long term and doesn't have much appeal outside that. Just my opinion. You realize Chinese animation has done great at the box office before, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 1 hour ago, cannastop said: You realize Chinese animation has done great at the box office before, right? It can still do great without getting close to Zootopia, which is what my post was about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerPaw Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 Tony Leung taking a lot of heat on Weibo for accepting the role of Mandarin; because many are saying the character is racist... Not sure where that came from. I am seeing posts saying Tony Leung is a has-been and is not selective in his roles. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 54 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: Tony Leung taking a lot of heat on Weibo for accepting the role of Mandarin; because many are saying the character is racist... Not sure where that came from. I am seeing posts saying Tony Leung is a has-been and is not selective in his roles. Philistines Tony Leung is a Cinematic God! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) Love the cast of Simu liu as Shang and Tony Leung as Mandarin but awkwafina not so much. A typical ABC face she has though. hoped for someone prettier like Natasha Liu. Edited July 21, 2019 by firedeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted July 21, 2019 Author Share Posted July 21, 2019 (edited) predictions for Ne Zha range from 400m to 3B ....... The Bravest, the fire fighting movie that scared Hobbs and Shaw from July 26 to Aug 23, is also said to have a shot at 3B. Edited July 21, 2019 by firedeep 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted July 21, 2019 Share Posted July 21, 2019 6 minutes ago, firedeep said: predictions for Ne Zha range from 400m to 3B ....... The Bravest, the fire fighting movie that scared Hobbs and Shaw from July 26 to Aug 23, is also said to have a shot at 3B. Are there any films on the horizon that people believe could challenge Wolf Warrior 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...