cannastop Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 15 hours ago, Charlie Jatinder said: Tl;DR How is Mandarin racist? based on Yellow Peril tropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 5 hours ago, cannastop said: based on Yellow Peril tropes. What's that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) What's up with Once Upon A Time In Hollywood? Was it released in China or it'll be released soon? If so, how are pre-sales doing? Didn't find any info about it for the last week, so clarification would be appreciated. Edited July 24, 2019 by Firepower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minnale101 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 13 minutes ago, Firepower said: What's up with Once Upon A Time In Hollywood? Was it released in China or it'll be released soon? If so, how are pre-sales doing? Didn't find any info about it for the last week, so clarification would be appreciated. Isn’t it rated R ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 22 hours ago, Firepower said: Do you seriously compare 30 mln B-movie with both 200 mln blockbuster and F&F spin-off?! The fact that M:R made 50+ mln in China actually means that Statham really has big fanbase in China, this kind of movie wouldn't have made this much without him, not even close. And The Meg wouldn't have grossed 150+ mln without him too, the shark alone can't gross this much. Jeez, are you serious?! Do you realize that you compare grosses of B-movie with blockbusters? If you put The Rock in Lionsgate B-movie, it won't gross 100+ mln there, not even half of that. Jumanji, big appealing blockbuster with almost 1 bln gross worlwide, did just 27 mln more than Lionsgate B-movie with Statham and 4 times less budget in China, so 50 mln gross for a movie like M:R is actually impressive. The Meg is basically the only Statham movie you can compare with The Rock's in terms of budget, appeal and marketing. Unfortunately these are the only movies we have to compare them on. We don't know what Meg would have made without him or without Li Bing Bing or if it starred The Rock instead. That is all guess work. As this is a box office discussion site, based on their recent box office, The Rock has more consistency and has earned more money in solo movies in China than Statham. That is irrefutable. Based on those statistics in my opinion The Rock is a bigger box office star in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Minnale101 said: Isn’t it rated R ? Yes, but Gavin said it got release date/approval a few weeks ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 (edited) 16 minutes ago, RaidensSword said: Unfortunately these are the only movies we have to compare them on. We don't know what Meg would have made without him or without Li Bing Bing or if it starred The Rock instead. That is all guess work. As this is a box office discussion site, based on their recent box office, The Rock has more consistency and has earned more money in solo movies in China than Statham. That is irrefutable. Based on those statistics in my opinion The Rock is a bigger box office star in China. The Rock has much more big budget solo movies, that's not consistency, that's quantity, so comparison is not fair. How many big budget solo movies did Statham have for the last decade? Looks like only The Meg, the rest are F&F movies, Spy and lots of mid-budget B-movies, mostly without proper release/marketing. Edited July 24, 2019 by Firepower 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, Firepower said: The Rock has much more big budget solo movies, that's not consistency, that's quantity, so comparison is not fair. How many big budget solo movies did Statham have for the last decade? Looks like only The Meg, the rest are F&F movies, Spy and lots of mid-budget B-movies, mostly without proper release/marketing. But all of that is because Status is not as big a star as The Rock,so he doesn't get the big budget movies or as many solo headlining movies. Unfortunately Hollywood has already decided that Status is not bankable enough to get big budget solo roles, so unless a Chinese company decides to finance one for him to tap in to this supposed big Chinese fanbase we may never get a fair comparison between him and The Rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Minnale101 said: Isn’t it rated R ? The potential Chinese release version won't be the same as the R rated version. Look at Django or Deadpool 2 for examples of R rated movies that were edited to pass Chinese censors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrGlass2 Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 1 hour ago, RaidensSword said: Unfortunately Hollywood has already decided that Status is not bankable enough to get big budget solo roles, so unless a Chinese company decides to finance one for him to tap in to this supposed big Chinese fanbase we may never get a fair comparison between him and The Rock. Well it's the opposite, Statham's status in Hollywood has risen greatly the last few years, thanks mostly to F&F. Long gone are the days of direct-to-DVD cheap action movies for him. The Meg could be the start of a solo career in bigger films and not just an anomaly. Also The Rock is pretty much the biggest movie star in the world at the moment so there is no shame in Statham being a less bankable actor (for now!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 6 hours ago, Nero said: What's that? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_Peril 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaidensSword Posted July 24, 2019 Share Posted July 24, 2019 4 hours ago, MrGlass2 said: Well it's the opposite, Statham's status in Hollywood has risen greatly the last few years, thanks mostly to F&F. Long gone are the days of direct-to-DVD cheap action movies for him. The Meg could be the start of a solo career in bigger films and not just an anomaly. Also The Rock is pretty much the biggest movie star in the world at the moment so there is no shame in Statham being a less bankable actor (for now!). I agree his status has risen, but that doesn't mean his cheaper action movie days are over. Let's not forget he is the wrong side of 50, there's not many action stars that become more bankable over that age. I agree that it's no shame and I like Statham. To keep it on topic, I'd like to see him in some more Chinese co productions and get that consistency in China as a leading man that I mentioned he is lacking. They are already setting up Meg 2, so it will be interesting to see if that increases from the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 Ne Zha is looking to make $65-70M on 3-day opening. If so, $200M+ lifetime can be expected 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 What will TLK finish at? $120m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 3 hours ago, VenomXXR said: What will TLK finish at? $120m? It should get close to that. At least 800m/$116m 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 6 hours ago, Gavin Feng said: Ne Zha is looking to make $65-70M on 3-day opening. If so, $200M+ lifetime can be expected wow! Maybe it can have great legs, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXRDJisDoctorDoom Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, cannastop said: wow! Maybe it can have great legs, too! 9.7 rating on Maoyan. I’d be shocked if it was under 3x OW. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a2k Posted July 25, 2019 Share Posted July 25, 2019 TLK doing $115-125 is a bummer. Was thinking 2x that a couple of months back and $150-175 after the ow. Not coming close to TJB's $150 in such a growing market is disappointing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 4 hours ago, VenomXXR said: 9.7 rating on Maoyan. I’d be shocked if it was under 3x OW. It has many preview showtimes before opening day. WOM effect already happened and push the opening weekend number. If it weren't that, the legs probably would be like Zootopia or Coco after a low debut, now it's might be more like Dying to Survive, which also held many preview screenings. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamakFiskKa Posted July 26, 2019 Share Posted July 26, 2019 On 7/23/2019 at 12:19 PM, UserHN said: @Gavin Feng @firedeep How likely are these Shang-chi online negativities possibly affect the BO? Do you sense that these are just from vocal minority or is it a widespread dissatisfaction? MCU China audience is too big to care about these things tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...