Olive Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 6 minutes ago, baumer said: Yep, I know the fall is massive. But what do you mean they scored 100 mill upfront? They sold it to local distributors for $100m before the release. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 4 minutes ago, baumer said: Yep, I know the fall is massive. But what do you mean they scored 100 mill upfront? Pretty sure that Paramount sold the rights here in China to a local distributer for 100 mill long before release. Pretty smart move Perhaps @POTUS or @Olive or @Gavin Feng can confirm this 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 1 minute ago, Olive said: They sold it to local distributors for $100m before the release. Thanks Olive. One thing i want to clear up Does the rights include dvd,streaming and tv in China? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, fmpro said: Thanks Olive. One thing i want to clear up Does the rights include dvd,streaming and tv in China? I think theatrical rights only, but for buy-out movies all rights belong to local company(for RE6 XXX3 etc) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 So what is your take as to why it dropped so much in China this time? What is it about this movie that people disliked so much in comparison to the 4th? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 43 minutes ago, baumer said: So what is your take as to why it dropped so much in China this time? What is it about this movie that people disliked so much in comparison to the 4th? Franchise fatigue and the movie really had bad WOM, people have better taste than 3 years ago(not really, RE6 and xXx3 also made banks) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 2 minutes ago, Olive said: Franchise fatigue and the movie really had bad WOM, people have better taste than 3 years ago(not really, RE6 and xXx3 also made banks) perhaps dangal and zootopia gave them some lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FantasticBeasts Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 @Olive what range would you give for DM3's final? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 5 minutes ago, FantasticBeasts said: @Olive what range would you give for DM3's final? If it opens to 300M +, 100M USD is in play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 SUN before service charges TF5 - 63.2m / 1,266m Reset - 28.7m / 110.9m Our Time Will Come - 12.8m / 31m Wished - 10.4m / 43.2m Paths of the Soul - 8.31m / 56.2m 77 Heartbreaks - 5.3m / 49.1m Dangal - 1.94m / 1,196m after service charges TF5 - 67.2m / 1,344m Reset - 30.4m / 117.9m Our Time Will Come - 13.5m / 32.8m Wished - 11.3m / 46.8m Paths of the Soul - 9m / 61.1m 77 Heartbreaks - 5.7m / 53.4m Dangal - 2.12m / 1,297m 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 Transformers: The Last Knight grossed $195.5 million by 10 days. TF4 made $222.3 million at the same point. China Box Office Transformers: The Last Knight Day Date Rank Gross % - YD % - LW Gross-to-Date Day # Weekly Gross % - Change RMB / M USD / M USD / M USD / M Thu Jun. 22 1 ¥42.14 $6.17 - - $6.17 0 $126.34 - Fri Jun. 23 1 ¥289.02 $42.29 - - $48.45 1 Sat Jun. 24 1 ¥312.26 $45.69 -5.71% - $94.14 2 Sun Jun. 25 1 ¥220.01 $32.19 -29.54% - $126.34 3 Mon Jun. 26 1 ¥84.37 $12.34 -61.65% - $138.68 4 $69.14 -45.27% Tue Jun. 27 1 ¥68.21 $9.98 -19.15% - $148.66 5 Wed Jun. 28 1 ¥60.08 $8.79 -11.93% - $157.45 6 Thu Jun. 29 1 ¥52.54 $7.69 -12.55% - $165.14 7 Fri Jun. 30 1 ¥58.78 $8.60 11.88% -82.25% $173.74 8 Sat Jul. 1 1 ¥81.37 $11.91 38.44% -73.94% $185.65 9 Sun Jul. 2 1 ¥67.20 $9.83 -17.42% -69.46% $195.48 10 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmeraldWitch Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) I dont think better taste (better? Lol, more like American taste) has anything to do with TF5 drop when movie like XXX & RE6 are still making a bank, and FF8 is not exactly some kind of good movie either. Franchise fatigue + for the most part TF5 itself being horribly edited + almost nonexistent robots in action have killed the movie potential. Actually, the action has gotten worse since the 2nd movie. Bay seems to forget what make people going to see a TF movie. A decent plot + iconic fight like the forest battle in TF2 will make this franchise back on track. Also I think it's time for Paramount to hire some actor who has worldwide appeal to be the movie protagonist. I like Marky Mark but he's no where as popular as the like of Tom Cruise, The Rock or Statham. Edited July 2, 2017 by EmeraldWitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 TF5 does not please anyone apparently. It doesn't please the people who didn't like the previous ones obvious but this one with its plot that gets too convoluted for its own good and hardly any action until towards the end doesn't please the fans either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) 7 hours ago, Olive said: They sold it to local distributors for $100m before the release. That is a lot, do 1) the local distributors get a better return than 25% ? 2) has to pay for the marketing ? If the answer is no and yes, it would have needed to do quite a lot to reach a 10% ROI. Say they spent 7 million on that release in China. that a 107 million cost, they need to think they have a good chance of getting 117.7m back. Theatrical alone with a 25% return, that is betting on the movie doing over 470 million US in China, would that be close to The Mermaid record with today exchange rate ? IT must have a bit more than that like they own part of the movie like the Ghost in a shell deal or some merchandising taste, otherwise such a non brainer for paramount, they did pretty much as much it could ever do and with 0 risk. Edited July 2, 2017 by Barnack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangbingchan Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 (edited) FF8 is not that bad.Actions scene is still amazing.Cinemascore is great.OW is incredible.FF franchise is Star War in China Now.TF5 has too much long and boring lines.Transformers are even Transform in TF5.That's awful. Edited July 2, 2017 by bangbingchan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 7 hours ago, FantasticBeasts said: @Olive what range would you give for DM3's final? 7 hours ago, Olive said: If it opens to 300M +, 100M USD is in play 300m OW likely. Can it do 2.25x to get to 685m/ $100m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 When does Spidey open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted July 2, 2017 Share Posted July 2, 2017 This $100m TF5 buyout is totally a rumor. It has no reliable source whatsoever. In fact it's likely a publicity stunt by the distributor itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 It's real. ¥2,400 million box office minimum-guarantee for TF5. xXx ¥600m, GITS ¥600m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted July 3, 2017 Share Posted July 3, 2017 1 hour ago, Gavin Feng said: It's real. ¥2,400 million box office minimum-guarantee for TF5. That is not 100m USD thought. More like 88m no ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...