NamakFiskKa Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 hours ago, Rorschach said: Looks like someone from Forbes has been stalking the forums @Olive Skywalker @TigerPaw @Barnack https://www.forbes.com/sites/robcain/2017/11/29/disneys-choice-for-mulan-lead-role-leaves-some-chinese-moviegoers-baffled/#6d48dfe82f92 Never change Rob Cain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamakFiskKa Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 2 hours ago, firedeep said: The young generation of Chinese actors and actresses as a whole are just so bad in terms of professional skills. One of the reasons why Chinese films are so poor in quality. They all look young to me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 12 hours ago, UserHN said: Sorry to all Kris Wu/Wu Yifan fans here but I think he's not that goodlooking and he can't act. Basing on looks, if Kris Wu is the other choice, then I'll just go for Lu Han. General consensus from everyone is that Luhan looks like a girl. Most people would probably pick Kris Wu over him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Polaroids Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Liu Yifei is not a good actress but neither is Emma Watson and she played Belle. We all know acting chops take a backseat especially in a Disney film. The biggest challenge is to pass her off as a man but with good CGI it's possible. As for her male lead, that's a bit complicated. There's only a handful of famous Chinese actors who can speak English fluently. There's Kris Wu, Eddie Peng, Aarif Lee etc but out of all the three Kris Wu is the only one who's dipped his toe somewhat into Hollywood and if casting people were looking for someone who is Chinese, famous in China but lived overseas and therefore fluent in English then they would be looking at Kris (he's skinny so he would definitely have to work out and put on pounds for him to fit the role). Godfrey Gao is a name that people are throwing around too but he's not famous in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Looks like 25-26 mill for CC and 9,5 mill for JL Coco seems to have a healthy increase tomorrow and could explode on sat/sun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Cain Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 3 hours ago, firedeep said: One of ... mate. Great box office poisons are just too many. Disney of course checked hundreds of candidates but what could they do when there is no such a fit to begin with? A young Chinese actress who performs well, speaks English well, gives that Mulan feel, and preferably has an established career. translated: a best among the worst choice, all things considered I agree though. Good to see you here my friend! Likewise, my friend! I'll be back in China next week, but not in Beijing, alas. I've always wanted to see the pandas, so I'm heading to Chengdu. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 14 minutes ago, Polaroids said: Liu Yifei is not a good actress but neither is Emma Watson and she played Belle. We all know acting chops take a backseat especially in a Disney film. The biggest challenge is to pass her off as a man but with good CGI it's possible. As for her male lead, that's a bit complicated. There's only a handful of famous Chinese actors who can speak English fluently. There's Kris Wu, Eddie Peng, Aarif Lee etc but out of all the three Kris Wu is the only one who's dipped his toe somewhat into Hollywood and if casting people were looking for someone who is Chinese, famous in China but lived overseas and therefore fluent in English then they would be looking at Kris (he's skinny so he would definitely have to work out and put on pounds for him to fit the role). Godfrey Gao is a name that people are throwing around too but he's not famous in China. Instead of getting already established actors in China who can speak English, maybe Disney ought to look at someone who is completely new but has the looks and required skills. A new gem in the making. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Robert Cain said: Likewise, my friend! I'll be back in China next week, but not in Beijing, alas. I've always wanted to see the pandas, so I'm heading to Chengdu. Chengdu is only 100 km away from my hometown, hope you will enjoy Sichuan food. Edited November 30, 2017 by Olive Skywalker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) 18 hours ago, POTUS said: 75% 18 hours ago, Olive Skywalker said: Very optimistic. 75% friday bump likely since its a toon. Cbm's do 40-50% if they have no competition. PS looking to come in at 6.5-7m +60-75% Today to bump slightly again. WoM is still building, Saturday should be interesting. With 5 days of build up, there could be a lot of demand from the kiddies tgat dont go midweek. Could be a 200% bump. Th 25m Fr 41 Sa 120 a reach but, its a mini tsunami Su 115 486m 10 day total- Dog P 371m 580m 14 day total Second week 372m total. 3 40% holds going forward make it to 1B/ $150m Dangal bumped on the 3rd weekend Dog P had a smaller first weekend, it had a second weekend bump but the fell 48% its 3rd weekend amidst competition and finished in the low 600s just missing $100m 750m + should happen 1B still very possible, Will WoM build like Dangal and Zoo or taper off like Dog? We'll know more with the Mon-Tues holds Thru Thursday Dog 222m 18m thur 609m tot Coco 210m 25m thur Cocos thursday is 35% bigger than Dogs. Its Fri-Sat bumps will be bigger as it skews younger. At a minimum the remainder of the run should be 35% bigger than Dog's putting coco at 745m. Its more likely to be 50% larger or more, 800m+ 18 hours ago, mredman said: when will JL pass 100 million you guys think ? Next weekend Nice quotes guys Edited November 30, 2017 by POTUS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Cain Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, Olive Skywalker said: Chengdu is only 100 km away from my hometown, hope you will enjoy Sichuan food. Thanks Olive. I love Sichuan food, I've just never had it in Sichuan. Looking forward to seeing your home province. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted November 30, 2017 Author Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 hour ago, POTUS said: 75% friday bump likely since its a toon. Cbm's do 40-50% if they have no competition. PS looking to come in at 6.5-7m +60-75% Today to bump slightly again. WoM is still building, Saturday should be interesting. With 5 days of build up, there could be a lot of demand from the kiddies tgat dont go midweek. Could be a 200% bump. Th 25m Fr 41 Sa 120 a reach but, its a mini tsunami Su 115 486m 10 day total 580m 14 day total Second week 372m total. 3 40% holds going forward make it to 1B/ $150m Dangal bumped on the 3rd weekend Dog P had a smaller first weekend, it had a second weekend bump but the fell 48% its 3rd weekend amidst competition and finished in the low 600s just missing $100m 750m + should happen 1B still very possible, Will WoM build like Dangal and Zoo or taper off like Dog? We'll know more witg the Mon-Tues holds Next weekend Nice quotes guys good projection. 150m Sat not happening. I was a little bit carried away last weekend. But 120m is not out of reach. Maybe, the lack of adorable characters like Zootopia's Nike and Judy makes Coco's holds not quite as insane as Zootopia's. Still, if Coco makes it to 1B, that would be 83x its OD, topping Dangal for a new record. The Monkey King (3D) Zootopia (3D) Coco (3D) Maoyan 9.3 9.5 9.6 Day Daily Gross (¥/M) Change (%) Cume Gross (¥/M) Daily Gross (¥/M) Change (%) Cume Gross (¥/M) Daily Gross (¥/M) Change (%) Cume Gross (¥/M) Thu Fri 18 -% 28 23 -% 23 12 -% 12 Sat 29 61.1% 57 60.5 163.0% 83.5 44.2 266.7% 56.2 Sun 40.5 39.7% 97.5 72.5 19.8% 156 54.3 36.4% 108.6 Mon 39.6 -2.2% 137.1 36.5 -49.7% 192.5 18.6 127.2 Tue 58 46.5% 195.1 69 89.0% 238.5 20 147.2 Wed 66 13.8% 261.1 44.5 -35.5% 306 22.3 169.5 Thu 49 -25.8% 310.1 43 -3.4% 349 24 193.5 Fri 37 -24.5% 347.1 72 67.4% 421 40 233.5 Sat 63 70.3% 410.1 170 136.1% 591 120 353.5 Sun 62 -1.6% 472.1 150 -11.8% 741 115 468.5 Mon 31 -50.0% 503.1 43 -71.3% 784 Tue 28.5 -8.1% 531.6 38 -11.6% 822 Wed 25.2 -11.6% 556.8 33.5 -11.8% 855.5 Thu 22.2 -11.9% 579 29 -13.4% 884.5 Fri 21 -5.4% 600 47 62.1% 931.5 Sat 38.1 81.4% 638.1 109 131.9% 1040.5 Sun 39 2.4% 677.1 86 -21.1% 1126.5 Mon 17 -56.4% 694.1 18.5 -78.5% 1145 Tue 16.7 -1.8% 710.8 17 -8.1% 1162 Wed 15 -10.2% 725.8 15.2 -10.6% 1177.2 Thu 9.6 -36.0% 735.4 14 -7.9% 1191.2 Fri 9.8 2.1% 745.2 19.4 38.6% 1210.6 Sat 20 104.1% 765.2 50 157.7% 1260.6 Sun 21.2 6.0% 786.4 43 -14.0% 1303.6 Mon 9.7 -54.2% 796.1 10 -76.7% 1313.6 Tue 10.2 5.2% 806.3 10 0.0% 1323.6 Wed 9.7 -4.9% 816 9 -10.0% 1332.6 Thu 7.8 -19.6% 823.8 9 0.0% 1341.6 Fri 7 -10.3% 830.8 10 11.1% 1351.6 Sat 13 85.7% 843.8 32 220.0% 1383.6 Sun 15 15.4% 858.8 32 0.0% 1415.6 first 30 days 858.8 1415.6 All #s excluding service fees 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eXtacy Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 (edited) Very interesting market China at times it is the most super-frontloaded with bad multipliers but every now and then you can have films increase 150-200% from their original weekend. Super strange. Edited November 30, 2017 by eXtacy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stewart Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 According to Maoyan, Coco has now hit 200M yuan total! Although that number should be more than doubled by Sunday... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 7 hours ago, fmpro said: Looks like 25-26 mill for CC and 9,5 mill for JL Coco seems to have a healthy increase tomorrow and could explode on sat/sun Just under for Coco and just over for JL according to Maoyan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 CC PS up 70% for tomorrow. Will clear 40m JL will be close to flat 8-9m Paddington PS at 350k with 10k shows. Will probably be a typical toon opener in the teens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Thursday est after service fees Coco - 25.0m/209m +4.4% Justice League - 9.75m / 597.6m -2% Manhunt - 5.2m/98.3m -9.4% Thor: Ragnarok - 1.14m / 741m +0% Orient Express - 0.8m / 225.2m -4% - Coco increased again and crossed 200M yuan like a walk in the park - Thor R beat War for Apes and became #10 foreign movie of 2017 Friday showtimes and forecast Fireworks(23.0%), presales 11M , Maoyan predicts 29.2M OD Coco (19.5%), 7M+ presales, maoyan predicts 38.2M but too low 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seduh Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 Great opening week for Coco. It will have a very healthy increase this weekend so a +$35 second weekend is on store. $100 it`s happening for this movie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UserHN Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 22 minutes ago, Olive Skywalker said: Thursday est after service fees Coco - 25.0m/209m +4.4% Justice League - 9.75m / 597.6m -2% Manhunt - 5.2m/98.3m -9.4% Thor: Ragnarok - 1.14m / 741m +0% Orient Express - 0.8m / 225.2m -4% - Coco increased again and crossed 200M yuan like a walk in the park - Thor R beat War for Apes and became #10 foreign movie of 2017 Friday showtimes and forecast Fireworks(23.0%), presales 11M , Maoyan predicts 29.2M OD Coco (19.5%), 7M+ presales, maoyan predicts 38.2M but too low What is the Friday expectations for Coco? Why is 38.2M too low? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 1 minute ago, UserHN said: What is the Friday expectations for Coco? Why is 38.2M too low? 40M+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subzero Posted November 30, 2017 Share Posted November 30, 2017 23 hours ago, Olive Skywalker said: Oh, Disney you fail! She is the most famous BO poison in China and sucks in acting. ... I love her in the Condor's Hero in 2006 .... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...