POTUS 2020 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 T5 MI5 JW SW7 Day Yuab Daily % +/- Last Week Tot Yuan $Tot Yuan Daily % +/- Last Week Tot Yuan $Tot Yuan Daily % +/- Last Week Tot Yuan $Tot Yuan Daily % +/- Last Week Tot Yuan $Tot Tues 117 117 18 Wed 79 -32% 196 31 109 109 18 Thur 65 -18% 261 41 80 -27% 189 30 Fri 76 17% 337 53 101 26% 290 47 14 14 2 Sat 128 68% 465 73 170 68% 460 74 195 209 32 Sun 167 167 26 88 -31% 553 87 146 -14% 606 98 134 -31% 343 52 Mon 67 -60% 234 37 30 -66% 583 92 53 -64% 659 106 50 -63% 393 60 Tues 57 -15% 291 46 25 -17% -79% 608 96 49 -8% 708 114 42 -16% Est 435 66 Wed 47 -18% 338 53 23 -8% -71% 631 99 43 -12% -61% 751 121 35 -16% Proj 470 72 Thur 37 -21% 375 59 20 -13% -69% 651 103 35 -19% -56% 786 127 30 -16% 500 76 Fri 38 3% 413 65 28 40% -63% 679 107 46 31% -54% 832 134 41 36% 541 83 Sat 62 64% 475 75 50 79% -61% 729 115 97 111% -43% 929 150 71 75% -64% 612 93 Sun 52 -17% -69% 527 83 40 -20% -55% 769 121 98 1% -33% 1027 166 50 -30% -63% 662 101 Mon 21 -59% -69% 548 86 14 -66% -55% 783 123 66 -33% 25% 1093 176 18.0 -64% -64% 680 104 Tue 17 -17% -69% 566 89 12.7 -7% -49% 795 125 24 -64% -51% 1117 180 15.0 -17% -64% 695 106 Wed 21 18% -56% 586 92 11.5 -9% -50% 807 127 22 -8% -49% 1139 184 12.6 -16% -64% 707 108 Thu 36 72% -4% 622 97 10.4 -10% -48% 817 129 21 -5% -40% 1160 187 10.6 -16% -64% 718 110 Fri 34 -3% -9% 656 103 5.2 -50% -81% 822 129 22 5% -52% 1182 191 14.3 35% 732 112 Sat 24 -31% -62% 680 107 11.0 112% -78% 833 131 40 82% -59% 1222 197 25.0 75% -65% 757 116 Sun 12 -48% -76% 692 108 8.5 -23% -79% 842 132 36 -10% -63% 1258 203 17.5 -30% -65% 775 118 Mon 8.5 -30% -60% 700 110 4.3 -49% -68% 846 133 16.0 -56% -76% 1274 205 6.5 -63% -64% 781 119 Tue 2.7 -68% -85% 703 110 4.4 2% -65% 851 134 17.4 9% -28% 1291 208 5.4 -17% -64% 787 120 Wed 2.6 -3% -87% 706 111 1.2 -73% -90% 852 134 15.4 -11% -30% 1307 211 4.6 -15% -63% 791 121 Thu 2.5 -4% -93% 708 111 2.5 108% -76% 854 135 12.0 -22% -43% 1319 213 3.8 -17% -64% 795 121 Tot 724 114 Tot 870 137 Tot 1400 229 Tot 845 128 I did yesterdays table with average drops. This is how looks with the way its shaping up w poor WOM and it could get worse than this. KFP3 opens at the end of this table. It will make very little after that. I put just $7m more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Baumer said: @jb007 usually we are on the same page but im taking the other side this time. I dont think anyone was speaking disparagingly about Star Wars. I think you misunderstood what he was saying. Baumer: I felt he was trying to imply that the majority opinion was not correct since he felt otherwise. I wish that the poster @Tower would clarify whether that was his intention or he was taking @JonathanLB literally that every guy likes Star Wars. Nobody can be that naive in life to think that something will be liked by everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 23 minutes ago, FranMan said: That's fairly decent for a 2012 BO, yes? I edited my earlier post with additional details about 2009, 2013 and 2015 (all data via BOM) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tower Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 38 minutes ago, jb007 said: But you think your opinion is part of the majority opinion considering that SW has been the most dominant franchise in movie history. The 7th movie in the franchise brushed aside the previous record holder in NA like it was nothing. Wake up and smell the coffee. SW is obviously very popular, it would be silly to try and dispute that. I was responding to someone who just assumed that every guy has to like SW, and if you didn't you must be a girl. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gotham Bank Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, FranMan said: China has the Golden Rooster Awards, one of several, which is its Oscar equivalent. But hey, don't let this trivial get in the way of your cheap jab. LOL, calm your pants, buddy. It was a joke. Got nothing against China, but I do have something against whiney people who feel offended by everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agafin Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 46 minutes ago, James said: Oh, please, don't start this. SW = US and, to some extent, UK. That's pretty much it. It's not even remotely close to being the biggest movie franchise in history on a WW level. Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest movie franchise then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, Agafin said: Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest movie franchise then? not movie, but the biggest franchise I know about (movies, tv-Series, books, graphic novels,..) is the story about RL back ~ 250y living Musashi (rings,...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 16 minutes ago, TigerPaw said: TDKR came out with Amazing Spiderman... and the latter is more popular with chinese audiences and has 3D showtimes yet TDKR won. The next weekend I believe Expendables 2 came out, and no1 knew Jet Li was just having a cameo role. Not forgetting TDK did not even get shown in Chinese theaters. Yes, I don't think TDKR did extremely well, but I think it performed beyond the expectations of many with a bad release date, and lack of 3D cinemas. I guess Spidey can be a trump card for Civil War in China if Marvel shows him in their marketing. 6 minutes ago, terrestrial said: I edited my earlier post with additional details about 2009, 2013 and 2015 (all data via BOM) Cheers for the breakdown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranMan Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 5 minutes ago, The Gotham Bank said: LOL, calm your pants, buddy. It was a joke. Got nothing against China My bad. It's hard to read humour online. 6 minutes ago, The Gotham Bank said: but I do have something against whiney people who feel offended by everything. As do I. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, FranMan said: Cheers for the breakdown. I guess you understand now why I am happy with all above SPECTRE = $83m? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 hour ago, efialtes76 said: Falling like a rock. 1 hour ago, Elessar said: Seems like a pretty normal monday drop to me, JW dropped 64%. Or are you saying because it's its 3rd day the drop should have been less? 1 hour ago, The Good Olive said: JW was more a family movie, it had big increases on weekends, I think EP7 won't increase as much. AOU fell 73% on its first and second Monday. JW skewed older as it drew demos outside the young male driven SH/scyfy genres AOU then bumped 40%/80% on Fri/Sat like spidey and others. 65% is not bad. Tomorrow hold is critical as well as Fri bump. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jb007 Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Tower said: SW is obviously very popular, it would be silly to try and dispute that. I was responding to someone who just assumed that every guy has to like SW, and if you didn't you must be a girl. Ok. I think you may taken that every guy likes Star Wars too literally. I think all guys certainly like one thing. Edited January 11, 2016 by jb007 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 1 minute ago, jb007 said: Ok. I think you may taken that every guy likes Star Wars literally. I think all guys certainly like one thing. My impression about the poster's posts at dom.... he/she reacted to? Means ~ every word China Film Insider @china_film French producer of "Nanjing! Najning!" seizes China's opportunities - via @beijing_today https://goo.gl/P5vgFV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 19 minutes ago, Agafin said: Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest movie franchise then? Potter is bigger for once. Marvel too, but that should not be counted as a franchise, considering it is basically 4-5 franchises combined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynosure Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Potter is definitely bigger outside of the English-speaking world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonstersandRoy Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, IronJimbo said: My guess is without nostaglia glasses the Chinese see the film for how it actually is. Well it's not a standalone movie, so prior knowledge (which i guess nostalgia falls into) of the events/characters in the previous film, would dampen reaction to a film. Nostalgia is not a bad thing, it is something that is important to franchises like Star Wars. If I went in and lets say watched the 4th Hunger Games movie for example, without seeing the previous film, I'd think it's garbage. I wouldn't care about characters as much. There is continuation in Star Wars throughout the movies, they are linked. So watching the 7th, without watching the previous 3 or 6 would be damaging to the experience. To me this is the obvious reason why reaction isn't as strong in countries where Star Wars has never been released wide to the public before like China or has been big a thing. I know there is no convincing you on this @IronJimbo , because you have prior dislike for Star Wars anyway. I'm sure there are film's that hold nostalgia in China that are well loved. Nostalgia is not necessarily a bad thing. Have they ever re-released the original Star Wars movies wide in China? Personally, with more and more Star Wars movies released wide over the coming years, I see reaction and viewer numbers improving in China as Star Wars creates it's own nostalgia in China. Edited January 11, 2016 by MonstersandRoy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 8 minutes ago, MonstersandRoy said: Have they ever re-released the original Star Wars movies wide in China? Disney (and FOX, the distribution rights holder of at least one of the old ones) signed in autumn / winter 2015 a contract with a streaming company. In the first month every movie had to be paid seperatedly, later on it was all incl. with their montly fee. The per view pay seemed a bit high in relation to the monthly costs, I'll look into that part of the Chinese indutry on summer or so, looks like it could get interesting to follow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IronJimbo Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 4 minutes ago, MonstersandRoy said: Well it's not a standalone movie, so prior knowledge (which i guess nostalgia falls into) of the events/characters in the previous film, would dampen reaction to a film. Nostalgia is not a bad thing, it is something that is important to franchises like Star Wars. If I went in and lets say watched the 4th Hunger Games movie for example, without seeing the previous film, I'd think it's garbage. I wouldn't care about characters as much. There is continuation in Star Wars throughout the movies, they are linked. So watching the 7th, without watching the previous 3 or 6 would be damaging to the experience. To me this is the obvious reason why reaction isn't as strong in countries where Star Wars has never been released wide to the public before like China or has been big a thing. I know there is no convincing you on this @IronJimbo , because you have prior dislike for Star Wars anyway. I'm sure there are film's that hold nostalgia in China that are well loved. Nostalgia is not necessarily a bad thing. JJ Abrams said it works as a standalone movie so I'm not really sure how true what you're saying is. It wasn't really a sequel to 6 either, the benefits to have seeing Star Wars before basically being able to spot all the "epic" references and homages. You're underestimating the fandom power, I've seen reviews which basically say "Thing X wasn't so great, thing Y not the best... but it's Star Wars! 9/10". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonstersandRoy Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: JJ Abrams said it works as a standalone movie so I'm not really sure how true what you're saying is. It wasn't really a sequel to 6 either, the benefits to have seeing Star Wars before basically being able to spot all the "epic" references and homages. You're underestimating the fandom power, I've seen reviews which basically say "Thing X wasn't so great, thing Y not the best... but it's Star Wars! 9/10". JJ Abrams can say what he likes, but it's by no means a standalone, it's just the start of a new chapter. Perhaps works more as a standalone in the west where even people who have not seen Star Wars, kind of know about the characters & elements. If you saw the film(TFA) and read the opening title scrawl, it is full of references to characters from the previous 3 films. I mean the first words Spoiler Luke Skywalker has gone missing is instantly a connection to the previous 3. Nostalgia is important to Star Wars, like it is with many beloved series in different countries. If that connection isn't there in a country with the 7th in a series, then it's sure the dampen the experience. TFA is a well made film, and a huge critical success (94% RT), unlike the prequels which were not, but they were still Star Wars. The nostalgia in those film's didn't blind audiences in the west. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 20 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: JJ Abrams said it works as a standalone movie so I'm not really sure how true what you're saying is. It wasn't really a sequel to 6 either, the benefits to have seeing Star Wars before basically being able to spot all the "epic" references and homages. You're underestimating the fandom power, I've seen reviews which basically say "Thing X wasn't so great, thing Y not the best... but it's Star Wars! 9/10". It's the same with you and avatar, avatar is an 7/10 movie at max, but your going to bais it anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...