China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Wow, the studio only gets around 17% of the revenue? That is the biggest crock of shit ever. Even more reason to hate the Chinese government, and other similar governments around the world. Middle Eastern totalitarian governments have been known to use our oil companies to build very expensive infrastructure and then kick those companies out of the country before the oil even starts pumping. Completely fraudulent behavior, just like the Chinese government taking 83% of movie revenue when they spent zilch producing the movie.

At least they can get 25% now. Good for Hollywood especially with the China film market quickly becoming bigger and bigger.

[Olive]

Wow, the studio only gets around 17% of the revenue?

Now it's 25%, still pretty low.

[redfirebird2008]

Now it's 25%, still pretty low.

Still a huge ripoff. Just to use the oil industry example: in our country, the oil company spends all the money producing the oil and the mineral owner gets a 25% royalty for owning the minerals and allowing the company to explore the property. What's going on with China's box office is the exact opposite. The movie studio spends hundreds of millions making the movie and then the country ends up with 75% of the revenue. Not right. But the studios are desperate for cash so they're willing to get screwed by the Chinese government even for a tiny amount of revenue.

[Olive]

Still a huge ripoff. Just to use the oil industry example: in our country, the oil company spends all the money producing the oil and the mineral owner gets a 25% royalty for owning the minerals and allowing the company to explore the property. What's going on with China's box office is the exact opposite. The movie studio spends hundreds of millions making the movie and then the country ends up with 75% of the revenue. Not right. But the studios are desperate for cash so they're willing to get screwed by the Chinese government even for a tiny amount of revenue.

Yeah, in Japan it's around 60%. 40-50% seems more reasonable.

[Rudolf]

Hollywood did the same during the silent movie era. European movies could not be shown in the US. Now they do not mind.

[fmpro]

http://news.mtime.com/2012/08/03/1494244.htmlTDKR 8.27TASM 8.28Prometheus 9.3

Worst idea everFuck you China

[lab276]

TDKR first?

[dezorz]

Still a huge ripoff....

On the other hand, HWD studios are not responsible for P&A in china (in contrary anywhere else in the world where they might get 40-50 percent share but also spent awfully lot for P&A). Note: P&A is prints and advertising.

[Olive]

Haha, it seems that TASM and TDKR will open on the same day August 27th.Source from Wanda Film group's Weibo page.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Olive

[ZattMurdock]

It will certainly be interesting.

[vc2002]

Still a huge ripoff. Just to use the oil industry example: in our country, the oil company spends all the money producing the oil and the mineral owner gets a 25% royalty for owning the minerals and allowing the company to explore the property. What's going on with China's box office is the exact opposite. The movie studio spends hundreds of millions making the movie and then the country ends up with 75% of the revenue. Not right. But the studios are desperate for cash so they're willing to get screwed by the Chinese government even for a tiny amount of revenue.

25% isn't as low as some might believe. In the US, some studios have to pay about 15% of the total gross to the distributors. Minus the 50% cut by the theaters, they get only 35%.

[vc2002]

Yeah, in Japan it's around 60%. 40-50% seems more reasonable.

Are you sure? I mean, studios can't even get a deal like that in the US.

[Olive]

Are you sure? I mean, studios can't even get a deal like that in the US.

Yeah, you can ask Corpse.

日本においては、映画の成績発表に配給収入が使われていたが、海外（アメリカ）に合わせて2000年度から興行収入の発表に切り替えられた。配給収入に比べ、実質の観客動員数に近い数字を求められる事や、作品による比率の差が少ないなど、データ上の利点がある。映画によってその比率は変わるが、興行収入のおおよそ50%～60%、洋画メジャー大作等の場合は70%が配給収入（配給会社の取り分）にあたる。日本映画の場合、この配給収入から宣伝費等がトップオフされたうえで配給マージン(30～50％)が引かれた分が製作会社の取り分となるため、制作費の回収には数倍の興行収入が必要である。

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E8%88%88%E8%A1%8C%E5%8F%8E%E5%85%A5

some even gets 70%.

Edited August 6, 2012 by Olive

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Interesting.

[Fullbuster]

TDKR, TASM and Prometheus the same week..They won't be able to have numbers ahead 100m, none of them.Prometheus will be the loser I guess.

[A Marvel Fanboy]

I know Hollywood studios can get as much as 90% from Russia for their movies. They also get more than 60% from a bunch of other markets. Though there are many low revenue-share (under 40%) markets too ...

[A Marvel Fanboy]

TDKR, TASM and Prometheus the same week..They won't be able to have numbers ahead 100m, none of them. Prometheus will be the loser I guess.

Well, that depends actually. First barely no sci-fi thriller/horrors ever had released in China. So we dont really know how Prometheus can perform here. And its in 3D that releases a few days after TASM (3D excusively). It will likely take very many 3D screens from TASM and if it get good WOM, TASM could not take these screens back. More, considering Alien movies has HUGE fanbase in China, Prometheus should do solid business no matter what. But how well ? We would not know yet. One thing clear is, it's potential will get hurt by the HEAVY competition of the THREE. But I dont think it get the most hurt either.

On other hand, TASM could get the most hurt. TDKR has much bigger hype than it. Spidey's advantage over TDKR is children audience and 3D. Released on the same day, TDKR will mostly likely take more attention due to bigger awareness. And 5 days later, Prometheus will come to get Spidey's 3D screens. With all that said, I still believe TASM can do solid 70M though it had 100M potential otherwise.

My early thinks:

TDKR 100M for sure

TASM 70M

PROM 50M

[dezorz]

25% isn't as low as some might believe. In the US, some studios have to pay about 15% of the total gross to the distributors. Minus the 50% cut by the theaters, they get only 35%.

it is not that easy. big studios (the big six, biggest mini majors) have their own distribution so this money stays in the house.i believe, it is not 15 percent from total gross, but 8-30 percent from what they get from theaters minus p&a. Edited August 6, 2012 by dezorz

[A Marvel Fanboy]

Official estimates for last week::

IA4, 150M yuan, $23.8M, up 15.4% from last week; cume 280M yuan, $44.44M. (This is more like it than that $41.7M bullshit)

Jason Statham's B movie The Mechanic, 50M yuan, $7.94M, 2nd biggest opening for a buyout movie ever after The Expendables. It opened to $11.4M DOM 17 months ago. Means its China opening is 70% big compared with DOM. Its OS total before China opened is only 22M with 8M from Russia, which is its current biggest OS market. China alone will make it another 20M or so. So for this movie, China almost equals its other total OS markets combined.

Abduction, 25M yuan, $3.97M, up 0% from last week; cume 50M yuan, $7.94M. Taylor Lautner Could even do $12M. 42% of its DOM gross; biggest OS market by far for it.

Lorax, dropped out of top 10 ... in its 2nd week. Epic bomb

Edited August 6, 2012 by firedeep

[Michael Seng Wah]

Based on the title, TASM moved to Aug 27?