Totem Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Pixar has to be embarrassed to an extent with Madagascar posting better reviews than Brave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 The THR review was counted fresh on Metacritic. Btw, 63% now. I remember hearing that critics are the ones that pick either fresh or rotten before sending their reviews to RT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 A rotten won't surprise me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Pixar has to be embarrassed to an extent with Madagascar posting better reviews than Brave. Not nearly as embarrased as when started reading the reviews for Cars 2, I bet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I remember hearing that critics are the ones that pick either fresh or rotten before sending their reviews to RT. So they don't do the same on Metacritic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fanboy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So is BRAVE going to keep hanging around 60% like Sherlock Holmes 2 did until we get the final score? I hope so. Or go up. That would be better. I'm interested to see what the IMDb score will end up as. I'm thinking at least a 7. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Pixar has to be embarrassed to an extent with Madagascar posting better reviews than Brave. I'm really wondering though what MADAGASCAR lll would have gotten if it was from Pixar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 So they don't do the same on Metacritic? Not sure how they do it on Metacritic but RT mostly lets the critics pick whether their review shows up as fresh or rotten http://www.quora.com/Rotten-Tomatoes/Who-converts-movie-critic-reviews-into-Rotten-Tomatoes-scores-out-of-100-the-critics-themselves-or-Rotten-Tomatoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whoot Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I'm really wondering though what MADAGASCAR lll would have gotten if it was from Pixar. I haven't seen either yet, but it sounds like while Brave had a strong beginning and ended with a "jarring twist" that has gotten mixed reviews, Mad3 has a weak beginning but strong end. I guess the lesson here is that endings matter a lot more than the beginning; which makes sense. I've sat through entire movies loving it only to hate the ending and me ending up hating the movie. Doesn't bode well though. If Brave keeps taking steps backward after some fresh momentum, 75% is a pipe dream. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) I hope so. Or go up. That would be better. I'm interested to see what the IMDb score will end up as. I'm thinking at least a 7. It was REALLY funny how Sherlock Holmes 2 stayed at rotten at 59% for such a long time until the last few reviews pushed it up to 61% to fresh. I prefer the first SH, wasn't that happy with SH2, but am still glad SH2 barely made it. But once a movie starts getting a bunch of rotten reviews, it is VERY hard to go back up to fresh. Critics start to see that it is okay to hate and join in. Edited June 18, 2012 by Mojoguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 David Edelstein (fresh) http://nymag.com/mov...love-edelstein/ those reviewers like to interpret a movie as they want to he writes: ...Brave is not a movie where the heroine is besting men... what does Merida do at the archery competition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 I haven't seen either yet, but it sounds like while Brave had a strong beginning and ended with a "jarring twist" that has gotten mixed reviews, Mad3 has a weak beginning but strong end. Weird. A few PIXAR movies started out one way and completely changed direction in the middle of the movie too. UP started out about the old man and changed into an action movie in the second hallf. Wall-E started out being only about the title character and brought the humans in the second half. I thought critics would have expected this by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) he writes: ...Brave is not a movie where the heroine is besting men... what does Merida do at the archery competition? This review called all the men in the movie ineffective or idiots. I was afraid of this. http://blog.cinemaautopsy.com/2012/06/18/film-review-brave-2012/ Edited June 18, 2012 by Mojoguy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) those reviewers like to interpret a movie as they want to he writes: ...Brave is not a movie where the heroine is besting men... what does Merida do at the archery competition? That` just a small part of what the movie is. Big chunk is about mother-daughter bonding. But they advertised it as chick besting men flick. Classic bait and switch. Edited June 18, 2012 by fishnets Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 But once a movie starts getting a bunch of rotten reviews, it is VERY hard to go back up to fresh. Critics start to see that it is okay to hate and join in. Or perhaps a movie really doesn`t appel to their tastes? I doubt it that someone would trahs a movie he/she really likes just because few others did. More likely, they didn`t like it to begin with and other negative reviews consinced them that a movie doesn`t deserve even a half-hearted pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Weird. A few PIXAR movies started out one way and completely changed direction in the middle of the movie too. UP started out about the old man and changed into an action movie in the second hallf. Wall-E started out being only about the title character and brought the humans in the second half. I thought critics would have expected this by now. I'm mixed about Up and I love Wall-E. Hopefully Brave is more the latter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 That` just a small part of what the movie is. Big chunk is about mother-daughter bonding. But they advertised it as chick besting men flick. Classic bait and switch. I never thought the film was about a girl beating guys. The overbearing mother thing is present in the advertising too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fakhir Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Don't know if it's already posted but Monster's University teaser trailer will be paired with Brave. http://www.movies.co...s=mdcmkttwitter Edited June 18, 2012 by Fakhir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 That` just a small part of what the movie is. Big chunk is about mother-daughter bonding. But they advertised it as chick besting men flick. Classic bait and switch. There is only a little of that in the trailers. For some reason PIXAR pretty much hid what the second half of the movie was about. The plot is going to surprise many people that haven't been following the movie closely. It'll be interesting to see if that is a good thing or not. Or perhaps a movie really doesn`t appel to their tastes? I doubt it that someone would trahs a movie he/she really likes just because few others did. More likely, they didn`t like it to begin with and other negative reviews consinced them that a movie doesn`t deserve even a half-hearted pass. Yeah, if a movie is bad it is just bad. But I'm sure more then a few critics like to check what everyone else is thinking before putting up their reviews. They are influenced by peer pressure whether they want to admit it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gideon Posted June 18, 2012 Share Posted June 18, 2012 Pixar has to be embarrassed to an extent with Madagascar posting better reviews than Brave. Just reading this makes me all * The too-quickly-dismissed pupil * The too-quickly-praised pupil These two shouldn't even be in the same class for God Sake! lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
